[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 580 Discussion and 581 Predictions

[Chakra Wizard]

EVERYONE in the manga is directly descended from the So6P. EVERYONE. Everyone is either from the elder son of the S06P (uchiha), or from the younger son (Senju).

So like I said, it makes about as much sense to just 'appear' in Nagato, as it does Naruto, because BOTH are senju. I assume some things because of the evidence we've been given by Kishi.

Is Tobi a liar? Not necessarily. He DID lie about being Madara Uchiha, but for a very good reason. Would he lie about giving Nagato the Rinnegan? Sure.

However, we have this panel of chapter 559 that gives Tobi's story credibility:

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'It would appear that little brat Nagato managed to grow' - Madara Uchiha, right after he is summoned by Edo Tensei.

Then he says:

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This is HIS doing, meaning he knows who resurrected him with Edo Tensei. Then on the same page, Kabuto says he is HIS assistant, meaning he is the assistant of the person Madara is thinking of, which is Orochimaru.

Not only did Madara live after his fight with Hashirama, but somehow he lived long enough to encounter Nagato AND Orochimaru.

At this point yes, it's a fact that Tobi 'gave' Nagato the Rinnegan, all we need now is the explanation of how.

That's not true, man. Don't forget, he TAUGHT people the means to focus chakra. The Uchiha and Senju ancestors are really just that.

And I don't get why people believe, if Nagato WAS given the rinnegan, that it was by Tobi. Madara KNEW him, so he was alive during that time. I'm pretty sure we can say that Madara would be the one to have given it to him. And, as I said before, he called Tobi "that someone", so he probably doesn't know his identity either.

Tobi's EMS is the same as Madara's, so if Nagato has Madara's Rinnegan, there's definitely a technique we aren't aware of yet.

And I thought it was Orochimaru for a while, too. The facts did all fit, up until I remembered he tried to steal Itachi's Sharingan, which was long after Kurama's attack. So unless he switched his eyes back out for Madara's before this, I doubt it's him anymore. I'm starting to fall back into the possibility of it being Izuna, cause it began making some sense again.

 

[QuickSilver2388]

EVERYONE in the manga is directly descended from the So6P. EVERYONE. Everyone is either from the elder son of the S06P (uchiha), or from the younger son (Senju).
So like I said, it makes about as much sense to just 'appear' in Nagato, as it does Naruto, because BOTH are senju. I assume some things because of the evidence we've been given by Kishi.

Is Tobi a liar? Not necessarily. He DID lie about being Madara Uchiha, but for a very good reason. Would he lie about giving Nagato the Rinnegan? Sure.

However, we have this panel of chapter 559 that gives Tobi's story credibility:

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'It would appear that little brat Nagato managed to grow' - Madara Uchiha, right after he is summoned by Edo Tensei.

Then he says:

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This is HIS doing, meaning he knows who resurrected him with Edo Tensei. Then on the same page, Kabuto says he is HIS assistant, meaning he is the assistant of the person Madara is thinking of, which is Orochimaru.

Not only did Madara live after his fight with Hashirama, but somehow he lived long enough to encounter Nagato AND Orochimaru.

At this point yes, it's a fact that Tobi 'gave' Nagato the Rinnegan, all we need now is the explanation of how.

OK now you know your wrong not everyone is a descendant of the so6p he was the first ninja but not the father of the entire world that is a DUMBASS thing to say i'm not even going to read the rest of what you said after seeing that you put everyone in all caps that it not smart come on i meant really

 

[Chakra Wizard]

OK now you know your wrong not everyone is a descendant of the so6p he was the first ninja but not the father of the entire world that is a DUMBASS thing to say i'm not even going to read the rest of what you said after seeing that you put everyone in all caps that it not smart come on i meant really

Good for you, man, cause there was even more dumb things in there than that. Why, in all of God's grace, would people still think TOBI gave Nagato the Rinnegan (if it was given at all), when MADARA actually KNEW him? I mean, seriously, fill in the blanks.:sy:

 

[QuickSilver2388]

Good for you, man, cause there was even more dumb things in there than that. Why, in all of God's grace, would people still think TOBI gave Nagato the Rinnegan (if it was given at all), when MADARA actually KNEW him? I mean, seriously, fill in the blanks.:sy:

That what I have been trying to say there is a huge blank to fill in after J-man left them no one knows what happened after he left said here

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Nagato still had to learn how to use the powers of the rinnegan so what im saying is that he could have met tobi and madara and madara could have told him about how to use the full power of the Rinnegan and in their minds that could have been giving him the rinnegan that is a huge part of the story of nagato that no one knows obviously something happen to them after J-man left them nagato had to learn the powers of the six paths from someone because he did not have them when he was a kid or he would not have let his parents die so lets not assume that you have to be Uchiha to gain rinnegan and not everyone is from the so6p line their were people in the world and the sage of the six paths saved them from the ten tails and had TWO sons and not and not everyone in the ninja world came from them.

 

[Horokeu Usui]

imagine nagato being some far distant cousin of tsunade and inherited the rinnegan somehow since he is uzumaki and has rinnegan(1st hokage marrying uzumaki mito) dont like the idea of rinnegan being unlocked only by uchiha, why cant a senju relative unlock? senju>uchiha after all. just a random thought lol

 

[QuickSilver2388]

imagine nagato being some far distant cousin of tsunade and inherited the rinnegan somehow since he is uzumaki and has rinnegan(1st hokage marrying uzumaki mito) dont like the idea of rinnegan being unlocked only by uchiha, why cant a senju relative unlock? senju>uchiha after all. just a random thought lol

because to some ppl that requires to much thought

 

[Chakra Wizard]

Will there be a new chapter this week?

I´ve read that the manga is on a break this whole month, is that true?

I thought that was happening too. No, they're putting filler episodes in the anime for the whole month of April. The manga goes as usual.

 

[Chakra Wizard]

That what I have been trying to say there is a huge blank to fill in after J-man left them no one knows what happened after he left said here

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Nagato still had to learn how to use the powers of the rinnegan so what im saying is that he could have met tobi and madara and madara could have told him about how to use the full power of the Rinnegan and in their minds that could have been giving him the rinnegan that is a huge part of the story of nagato that no one knows obviously something happen to them after J-man left them nagato had to learn the powers of the six paths from someone because he did not have them when he was a kid or he would not have let his parents die so lets not assume that you have to be Uchiha to gain rinnegan and not everyone is from the so6p line their were people in the world and the sage of the six paths saved them from the ten tails and had TWO sons and not and not everyone in the ninja world came from them.

Yuh, wha abut der wives? Pretty sure two guys can't populate the planet. And regarding Madara, I'm sure he may have lived to see Akatsuki form, but I'd really want to know what killed him if he survived that long. He could've been betrayed by Tobi, who knows? And considering Nagato thought he was Madara too, he probably didn't meet him until after his death, and he figured that he just felt like wearing a mask now. Actually, maybe Madara used to wear a mask of his own. That would help explain things, I'm sure.

 

[Derigar]

I thought that was happening too. No, they're putting filler episodes in the anime for the whole month of April. The manga goes as usual.

Could you give me the source please, my good sir?

 

[squigles]

And I don't get why people believe, if Nagato WAS given the rinnegan, that it was by Tobi. Madara KNEW him, so he was alive during that time. I'm pretty sure we can say that Madara would be the one to have given it to him. And, as I said before, he called Tobi "that someone", so he probably doesn't know his identity either.

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'I am the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan.' That's probably why people think it was Tobi.

OK now you know your wrong not everyone is a descendant of the so6p he was the first ninja but not the father of the entire world that is a DUMBASS thing to say i'm not even going to read the rest of what you said after seeing that you put everyone in all caps that it not smart come on i meant really

This manga isn't about everyone in the entire world. It's about the Senju and the Uchiha, the people of the ninja world. Everyone in the Manga is either a direct descendent of the Senju, or a direct descendent of the Uchiha.

Fact.

And I'll say this again:

UNTIL KISHI EXPLAINS IT WE ONLY HAVE WHAT THE MANGA TELLS US TO GO BY. THE MANGA TELLS US THAT TOBI GAVE NAGATO THE RINNEGAN. THEREFORE, TOBI GAVE NAGATO THE RINNEGAN.

imagine nagato being some far distant cousin of tsunade and inherited the rinnegan somehow since he is uzumaki and has rinnegan(1st hokage marrying uzumaki mito) dont like the idea of rinnegan being unlocked only by uchiha, why cant a senju relative unlock? senju>uchiha after all. just a random thought lol

Because the Rinnegan is an ocular jutsu, the final form of the Sharingan. Only Uchiha can possess it naturally without some sort of an eye implant. So either Nagato is an Uchiha, or it was given to him by an Uchiha.

Not sure why that's so hard for people to understand, especially when it's been revealed in the Manga that Nagato is an Uzumaki (direct descendant of the Senju) and that Tobi gave him the Rinnegan.

 

[Chakra Wizard]

Could you give me the source please, my good sir?

There's a thread on here called "April 2012 schedule" or something like that. Says something like they're taking April off, the anime and manga are close in terms of the plotline, and gives the titles for the coming filler episodes.

 

[QuickSilver2388]

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'I am the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan.' That's probably why people think it was Tobi.



This manga isn't about everyone in the entire world. It's about the Senju and the Uchiha, the people of the ninja world. Everyone in the Manga is either a direct descendent of the Senju, or a direct descendent of the Uchiha.

Fact.

And I'll say this again:

UNTIL KISHI EXPLAINS IT WE ONLY HAVE WHAT THE MANGA TELLS US TO GO BY. THE MANGA TELLS US THAT TOBI GAVE NAGATO THE RINNEGAN. THEREFORE, TOBI GAVE NAGATO THE RINNEGAN.



Because the Rinnegan is an ocular jutsu, the final form of the Sharingan. Only Uchiha can possess it naturally without some sort of an eye implant. So either Nagato is an Uchiha, or it was given to him by an Uchiha.

Not sure why that's so hard for people to understand, especially when it's been revealed in the Manga that Nagato is an Uzumaki (direct descendant of the Senju) and that Tobi gave him the Rinnegan.

not even the whole ninja world decendant from one of those two clans everyone in the land of fire mabe but not everyone in the manga's world is from the uchiha or senju clan the so6p taught people jutsu and the formed their own clans and nations and what not no where did it ever say that the entire ninja world was populated by the uchiha and senju clan just the land of fire

 

[kakashi338]

amen

Ugh, Kabuto is so f*cking disgusting :|
Seriously, he's the grossest villain ever. All Itachi and Sasuke need to do is just throw some Clorox into his eyes.

Game over. Clorox > anything dirty

 

[hutanami]

to QuickSilver2388
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"That what I have been trying to say there is a huge blank to fill in after J-man left them no one knows what happened after he left said here /manga/Naruto/373/15
Nagato still had to learn how to use the powers of the rinnegan so what im saying is that he could have met tobi and madara and madara could have told him about how to use the full power of the Rinnegan and in their minds that could have been giving him the rinnegan that is a huge part of the story of nagato that no one knows obviously something happen to them after J-man left them nagato had to learn the powers of the six paths from someone because he did not have them when he was a kid or he would not have let his parents die so lets not assume that you have to be Uchiha to gain rinnegan and not everyone is from the so6p line their were people in the world and the sage of the six paths saved them from the ten tails and had TWO sons and not and not everyone in the ninja world came from them.
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Go to hell.
Put some dots (.) or commas (,) in your message.....

 

[Fluffyman]

I thought that was happening too. No, they're putting filler episodes in the anime for the whole month of April. The manga goes as usual.

Thank you, the only one answering me!!

 

[baah]

1. That's what I've been saying, man. People want him to fight Naruto so bad and if he talks to Itachi, I highly doubt something will trigger in his brain to make him still want to destroy the Leaf village.

2. Tsk, Tsk :flaw: Now how do you know he's going to hell?

i meant the "dead realm"... slip of fingers..... you know.....with all the killing and the lying....

 

[Madara Hokage]

1/5

 

[anklaf]

When will we get to see Naruto Vs. Tobi?
Will Sasuke and Itachi defeat Kabuto?
If anybody wants to suggest, please do!

 

[ThousandLegs]

Fact.

And I'll say this again:

UNTIL KISHI EXPLAINS IT WE ONLY HAVE WHAT THE MANGA TELLS US TO GO BY. THE MANGA TELLS US THAT TOBI GAVE NAGATO THE RINNEGAN. THEREFORE, TOBI GAVE NAGATO THE RINNEGAN.



Because the Rinnegan is an ocular jutsu, the final form of the Sharingan. Only Uchiha can possess it naturally without some sort of an eye implant. So either Nagato is an Uchiha, or it was given to him by an Uchiha.

Not sure why that's so hard for people to understand, especially when it's been revealed in the Manga that Nagato is an Uzumaki (direct descendant of the Senju) and that Tobi gave him the Rinnegan.

didnt Nagato activate his eyes after seeing his parents die at the hands of leaf ninjas?


besides if Tobi had given Nagato his eyes wouldnt he of been able to activate his own insted of stealing Nagatos

personaly I feel its a power that anyone of either the Senju or Uchiha can use since BOTH clans decended from the SOt6P

 

[QuickSilver2388]

didnt Nagato activate his eyes after seeing his parents die at the hands of leaf ninjas?


besides if Tobi had given Nagato his eyes wouldnt he of been able to activate his own insted of stealing Nagatos

personaly I feel its a power that anyone of either the Senju or Uchiha can use since BOTH clans decended from the SOt6P

Thank you, Thank you you are a smart man. I have been saying that forever and finally someone else says it too.