[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 561 Discussion and 562 Predictions

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Re: Naruto Manga 561 Discussion and 562 Predictions

Just a guess. But what if the So6p split himself before dieting and he is now tobi. Lol... Jk
But it would be really cool if it was him. Or tobi is the split half of one of so6p sons
 

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Re: Naruto Manga 561 Discussion and 562 Predictions

Tobi's paths are different then Pein's he uses no chakra rods and therefor doesn't have a connection with them, these paths are Edo Tensei's apparently summoned by Kabuto making Kabuto the puppet master.
You do have a point here but i think of it more as a flaw than a fact. We do know yes that Nagato's paths had chakra receivers but here we are talking about Tobi who controlled the 4th Mizukage. So i dont see the reason why he cant control the Edo bodies as well. But i will stick at the first that its a small flaw from Kishi.
 

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Re: Naruto Manga 561 Discussion and 562 Predictions

jus noticed somethin. the edo madara only has rinnegan in one eye his left. jus like tobi now and when u look at current manga chapter, when the meteor (space rock is coming) his rinnegan is activated but also has sussano on,


this brings me to my theory to say if edo summon brings u to when u strongest i guess he is strongest now that he is tobi with nagato's rinnegan in left eye. thats the tweak kabuto talks about plus the funny body which has cracks.
this makes me to wonder that if nagato could healed his own body from naruto and is weaker than madara y not madara do same besides rinnegan has a natural bubble shield Y not use it from meteor.

HIS sussano is cool too double face, but still bony sasuke at ful strength made his with flesh,(could sasuke be stronger)

also if it takes sasuke ages to adjust to ems y not take tobi ages to use and adjust nagato rinnegan.(he was never in bandage)
but then again if tobi is madara and had his sharingan? y go and get nagato eyes? y not jus awaken rinnegan himself -again?

also how did tobi extinguish balck flames from sasuke? is it shinra tensei or he used his ems?
 

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Re: Naruto Manga 561 Discussion and 562 Predictions

jus noticed somethin. the edo madara only has rinnegan in one eye his left. jus like tobi now and when u look at current manga chapter, when the meteor (space rock is coming) his rinnegan is activated but also has sussano on,


this brings me to my theory to say if edo summon brings u to when u strongest i guess he is strongest now that he is tobi with nagato's rinnegan in left eye. thats the tweak kabuto talks about plus the funny body which has cracks.
this makes me to wonder that if nagato could healed his own body from naruto and is weaker than madara y not madara do same besides rinnegan has a natural bubble shield Y not use it from meteor.

HIS sussano is cool too double face, but still bony sasuke at ful strength made his with flesh,(could sasuke be stronger)

also if it takes sasuke ages to adjust to ems y not take tobi ages to use and adjust nagato rinnegan.(he was never in bandage)
but then again if tobi is madara and had his sharingan? y go and get nagato eyes? y not jus awaken rinnegan himself -again?

also how did tobi extinguish balck flames from sasuke? is it shinra tensei or he used his ems?
 

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Re: Naruto Manga 561 Discussion and 562 Predictions

right, i got it!;)
but was that whole 'brothers share MS-techniques' - thing mentioned in the manga or is it just an assumption. the only two i can speak of are sasuke and itachi but sasuke did never awakan the MS by himself... itachi gave him his techniques... this explains why they have the same abilities but its no guaranty that izuna and madara also share their abilities...

just correct me if i'm wrong :)
Tell me why you think that Sasuke and Itachi have the same MS-eye techniques? They both have Susanoo and Amaterasu but amaterasu is supposed to be common to all MS-users, and sasuke does not have "Tsukuyomi" but can use his eyes to make a weaker Genjutsu. In addition to that his Susanoo is also different. The "brothers share the same MS-techniques" would be an even more exaggerated reason for this...
 

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Very Intresting Chapter but i gave it a 3 i wanna see more of Madaras EMS Abilties not Rinnegan and Wood Realese Wtf? The meteors were cool though. Next chapter Oonoki and Tsunade against Madara hopefully he does get defeated or Itachi makes Kabuto end it i dont wanna see Edo Mardara becoming a main protanginist i feel it should just be tobi and kabuto.
but were dealing with the same metaphors now in our time buncha fake wannabee devils trying to resurect there holy god(madara, el diablo) make sense?
 

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Re: Naruto Manga 561 Discussion and 562 Predictions

Tobi could be:

1) Fugaku Uchiha
2) Izuna Uchiha
3) Kagami Uchiha
4) Obito Uchiha
5) Shisui Uchiha
6) Uchiha Inabi
7) Uchiha Tekka
8) Uchiha Yashiro
1) Fugaku uchiha was killed by Itachi. DEAD
2) Possible, he is said to be dead but so was Madara
3) Possible, we don't know much about him.
4) Ridiculous theory, Tobi is OLD and his connection to Madara comes most probably from way back. Obito is of Kakashi's age remember? He was a good character in addition to that. He is DEAD
5) I doubt it. Itachi just said that Shisui would do anything for the sake of Konoha. Shisui is DEAD
6) Who the heck is that?
7) Same as above
8) Same as above

There ;)
 

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Re: Naruto Manga 561 Discussion and 562 Predictions

Only one thing: naruto's clones are really badass...it can do sage mode kb mode plus the fact tht it can summon a whole new batallion of bunshins...

Naruto can simply wipe an entire army by hiding and doing his tajuu kagebunshins...
 

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Imo, the chapter proved it was the real Madara who summoned the Kyuubi 16 years ago.
'Cause when he tried to summon kyuubi in the latest chapter, the 9 tails recognized Madara's chakra.
Meaning, Madara was alive 16 years ago, but not anymore.
:3
I disagree, the one who summoned the Kyuubi 16 years ago uses the same techniques as Tobi, so it probably was the same character.
Madara used the nine-tails against Konoha during his battle with Hashirama and probably could summon the nine-tails then. I see no reason why Kyuubi wouldn't remember that! We still haven't seen the real Madara use any space-time ninjutsu. Also, we haven't seen Tobi use any Mangekyou Sharingan techniques, such as Susanoo.
 

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Re: Naruto Manga 561 Discussion and 562 Predictions

A few things come to mind in this chapter...

1st, Madara's enhanced edo... While indeed it seems plausible that either Zetsu or Yamato could have been a better vessal for Madara...it seems difficult in practice.

Kabuto had shown Tobi the body of Madara before he had access to either Zetsu or Yamato. Furthermore, Yamato is far more valuable alive then dead to them.

It could be a Zetsu, which might explain the Madara looking down his shirt thing, but I'm not really sure Zetsu's are edo compatible. Anyway, the looking down his shirt thing confuses me. At least, we know Oro had been experimenting with Senju DNA before (Yamato is the only living) subject.

2nd, the fake Madara...
Madara died when he got the rinnegan, and I'm thinking it was a slow and painful death while his body rejected the DNA. I think Tobi is part Zetsu, part dead Madara's body. And I still believe black Zetsu is a part of the 10 tailed demon. This means that Tobi actually IS Madara (or at least partly), even though Madara was dead (remember, Zetsu is known for eating the dead).

This explains the Kyuubi too. He has been controlled by Madara at the battle between him and Harashima, then again by Tobi (who as a Zetsu has identical chakra). Even the Kyuubi would not be able to sense this difference.

The whole plan to bring Madara back as the So6p is all for the cause of restoring the 10 tails, but I think Tobi doesn't need Madara for it anymore. I think he'll want to get rid of Madara asap.

3rd, Tsunade joining the fight. Well she'll do what she does best: Stall them.
At least long enough for Itachi to force Kabuto to stop the edo. They're not beating edo Madara, he's an undead so6p, and his power is through the roof!
I don't think Tsunade is going to kick the bucket quite yet. Naruto, as strong as he is, still isn't Hokage material. Maybe he'll realise this for himself at some point, but Naruto is not the type to sit through boring political issues and file work. He wants to be in the middle of the action, and the Hokage only joins the fray when things are getting desperate. Until then, they stay at the back row, coördinating and making tough calls. This is not the way of Naruto.

The main villain will imo be the 10 tails, and Naruto will have to work along with Sasuke (who needs a change of heart) to defeat it (Perfect body, Perfect eyes).
 
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something to think about.
If edo Madara Knows Nagato, that means that edo madara had been alive through the first ninja war and close to the start of the second. After the first Ninja war their was a period of twenty years of peace, according to naruto wiki. so lets assume that Nagato was about 8 years old when second shinobi Wars Started. Jaraiya said that by age 10 Nagato had mastered a bunch of ninja techniques. meaning Edo madara lived atleast 10 years after facing Hashirama in battle. And then he just died. Edo madara stated that he awaken the rinnegan shortly before his death (naruto 560/pg15)

So according to this, you can hypothesize Real Madara spent years after his fight with hashirama experimenting to gain the rinnegan, from his sharingan, and what he gained from Hashiramas power...He had to have met Nagato even as a baby, it would have been a few years of creating his rinnegan.

But the question still remains, why nagato? I see Tobi carrying the rinnegan now, why didint he just give his eyes to tobi from the beggining and use its power to revive him when he died then or at a sooner point. something just doesnt add up, what do you guys think?
 

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I feel the storyline at the end of this chapter was sort of forced to get in the bag.
The Kyuubi should definitely know that Madara wouldn't be so easy to beat, but why did he lend Naruto his chakra for only such a short time? I think that's a bit ridiculous. Judging from Masashi's style of plot, he is possibly inserting Oonoki into the battle by postponing Naruto's action in the meantime. So my prediction about the next chapter is that it will probably be dominated by the battle between Oonoki and Madara.
 
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something to think about.
If edo Madara Knows Nagato, that means that edo madara had been alive through the first ninja war and close to the start of the second. After the first Ninja war their was a period of twenty years of peace, according to naruto wiki. so lets assume that Nagato was about 8 years old when second shinobi Wars Started. Jaraiya said that by age 10 Nagato had mastered a bunch of ninja techniques. meaning Edo madara lived atleast 10 years after facing Hashirama in battle. And then he just died. Edo madara stated that he awaken the rinnegan shortly before his death (naruto 560/pg15)

So according to this, you can hypothesize Real Madara spent years after his fight with hashirama experimenting to gain the rinnegan, from his sharingan, and what he gained from Hashiramas power...He had to have met Nagato even as a baby, it would have been a few years of creating his rinnegan.

But the question still remains, why nagato? I see Tobi carrying the rinnegan now, why didint he just give his eyes to tobi from the beggining and use its power to revive him when he died then or at a sooner point. something just doesnt add up, what do you guys think?
You're right, and Madara was talking about being revived sooner or later anyway. Maybe he was expecting Tobi to revive him using the rinnegan's powers, but now that he's got his plan under the control he might not go according to Madara's initial plan as Kabuto said in this chapter. We might possibly be facing some epic Madara vs. Tobi battle is this is the case :p As what goes for who Tobi is, the previous theory is plausible as well. As in half zetsu half madara. It wouldn't explain the space-time ninjutsu though. It is clear now that they both new Nagato, though Tobi is the one who says that the Rinnegan was his to being with. WTF seriously Kishi, he's mindf***ing us :confused:
 

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Re: Naruto Manga 561 Discussion and 562 Predictions

da*m F*ck..that was good,, i think naruto can totally perform the tailed beast Bomb in kyub's form. :)
this chapter rocks my world :) \m/
 

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wow madara is awesomely powerful..but good to see that the kyubi has a taste of good thing too. to have chosen naruto over madara...that shows how truly evil madara is...lol...and again we now know that tobi for sure aint madara. but cant wait for the next chapter
 
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