[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion and 560 Predictions

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Anyone, I just read here that Obito had the space-time jutsu :shrug: ...
I can´t really seem to recall where in the manga we get to know that; if some1 can refer to the source? :D
Kakashi has obitos sharingan. Kakashi uses that sharingan to do his space/time MS jutsu. Kamui is what he calls it I think.

Not enough is known about MS to say if that power was unique to obitos eyes, or if other MS can use it as well like how Sasuke and Itachi both had the same MS and Tobi referred to Susanoo as a rare ms jutsu, implying it wasn't specific to only sasuke and itachi.
 

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i got a funny feeling that in the next upcoming episodes we will be treated to a sneak peek into the fight between Madara and the First Hokage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I have probably the most puzzling topic to discuss, and no i havent looked to see if its been done, much to lazy for that but...... HOW the hell are the edo's coming back fully clothed? The Impure res jutsu brings back the soul..... last i checked souls didnt wear cloths..... lol
 

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<---Kagami

The eyes,and eyebrows kind of look the same as tobi? who agrees?

<---Tobi
 

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Wow....unbelievable...I havent seen this much chatter in one week since....forever!!!.
Everybody is so freaking hyped up (myself included) that we are all like pent up w/Abdominal Gas and are about to let out the biggest Fart the world has ever heard. LOL LOL... I have read some really good predictions over the past two weeks but none of them hit on the excitement level of this chapter. Kishi did a serious pyschotrip on all us with this one. Gotta feeling there are a few more surprises waiting for us.
 

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Your dumb and your comprehension level is at a all time low. Sorry if anybody is offended but this person is dumb.

You think because he ripping his right arm off that that means he didn't grab him with both arm? Idiot it never shows him grabing with only the right arm. It only shows him reaching to grab with both arms and the after affect is him reaching to snatch off his right arm in pain.... Torune bugs didn't have an affect on his left arm because it's Made of Black Zestu exoskeleton underneath the White Zestu clone matter!
In the anime you can see that he grabs him with one arm.
 

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dunno just saw a lot of ppl arguing about it... and in the anime you can clearly see that he grabs him with one hand and then rips it off when it gets infected
 

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u cannot say for sure that tobi isnt madara cause guess what nagato knew madara and what did nagato call the masked man madara Boom headshot and it wouldnt be the first time that you see somebody come back even thou their soul is sealed aka minato said he put his powers onto seal or something so couldn't madara do the exact same thing also from what i can tell madara and the 1st were the only one who could control the tail beast n we know madara didn't die against first hokage seeing how he knows nagato bc one jiraya and and orchimaru were kids then when they did battle so nagato wasnt even born tbh so yeah its either madara or his brother im iffy about the whole izuna thing and my god its not obito would u please stop spamming those threads also wtf kishi u gave us two pages of kakashi and guy wtf u give me like 20 something pages of gaara but two pages of kakashi get you shit together people -.-
 

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We also keep forgeting that we don't know who is black zetsu ? We know that white zetsu is a clone of the 1st so is it possible that black zetsu is a clone of madara ? But i'm positive that tobi is madara or zetsu clone...
Damn it can't wait for tomorow :)
 

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Re: Madara's identity and 6th coffin mystery Solved....

yea the fourth is in the death god sealing justu. But i always wanted for naruto with his new power to summon the dude and be like... "hey you.... let them go.... or else" lol
Hahahahahha! yea I hope it happens too... but just not as cheezy.. cause thats like just typical.. like "hey you... thats my son.. Let him go.. now! where are you taking him! Madara: umm.. your the yellow flash man you think id tell you?! RASENGAN! Madara: WAAAAAAAAAAAA! nothing less id expect from goldy lox
 

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Heres MY complete split theorum

A shortened version of the theory i lost after writing it for an hour was that Madara is both of them...

Tobi is madara's memories in Obito's body, he would lose his own techniques as his original body was probably dying (old age?) but he would have Obito's technique Space Time Jutsu and the implanted DNA sample, from Madaras fight with Hashirama at the VotE, this would give him the ability to use Izanagi freely and ultimately Banbutsu Sozo, once he had his rinnegan and his plan was complete.

He made a plan long ago to unite his soon to be dead body ie edo tensei'd madara and EMS, with his new Tobi body, so that he could use EMS, Izanagi, Space Time Jutsu, Banbutsu Sozo and control the Jubi once it had been gathered. Essentially the sage of the six paths reborn plus his own EMS.

However he was meant to be reborn with gedo rinne tensei ,but Nagato uses it on the people of Konoha instead, thats why he talks about Nagato as it was part of his plan, Tobi adapted when the snake shows up, it fits in as he can revive his old body that way ie impure world resurrection. Sasuke was a sacrifice he was willing to make to gain ultimate power.

Madara mind is inside of Obito's body
Obito's body is Tobi, thus all the similarities.
Madara is Tobi.

Tobi was created by madara on his deathbed to gain the abilities of both paths, look at this:
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Once he had gained both sharingan and rinnegan into a single body he would be able to use izanagi which can turn reality into an illusion and illusions into reality. But he no longer has his EMS powers, which is why Nagato was given the rinnegan, to resurrect Madara and combine EMS with Izanagi.

This is where it gets interesting if you read ,
you see that madara wants to use his EMS genjutsu, that itachi talks about when vsing sasuke. His genjutsu is infinite tsukiyomi, if you know what tsukiyomi does you know that you control space and time, this means you are a god in this genjutsu controlling everything in this realm, by reflecting it off of the moon he would be casting a genjutsu upon every one in the ninja world. Once combined with Tobi and Izanagi his infinite tsukiyomi could be taken to the next level.... it would not only be a genjutsu in the mind of the person, if he used izanagi with infinite tsukiyomi it would turn the illusion of Madara/Tobi being a god into reality. He would have total control of the entire world.

Madara is Tobi and his plan to rule the world has been accumulating since the time when Konohagakure was being created.

If you see any flaws in this hit me up. EPIC !
Hi everyone, nice theorys i've read, noticed some things i haven't noticed before. Typhon you have a good theory here, but i think its a bit of a stretch, even for kishi lol, but some good points there.

Thanks to your link i could noticed 1 thing i hanven't noticed before. While tobi is getting the eye from nagato, he says that nagato is from uzumaki clan, which made me realize that he and naruto are family, which i didn't think before. But naruto and nagato showed 2 different powers of the 6 paths. I think this will show us that besides senju and sage path, naruto will show some uzumaki path, can't figure it out yet, but he's becoming superman, lol.

Returning to tobi's theorys, i still agree with the people who say that tobi and madara were brothers and share 1 eye with one another. I think it's strange to one brother just dissapear like that, and giving 2 eyes, when 1 was enough. Kishi showed was in the battle konan vs tobi, that tobi has only the right eye, and showed us now that madara has only the left eye.

Maybe kishi is tricking us to think like this but i believe this is the more logical explanation.

Any errors on my judjement please reply, cumpliments to all.
 

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Re: Madara's identity and 6th coffin mystery Solved....

Chapter 527 answered the questions


you know what i liked about this chapter??

it solves the madara/tobi mystery for me!!

i never believed he was real madara until now......why, because the shell of his former self thing (i thought that there was no way for his mind and body to act without a soul)

but thats obviously not the case as chap. 527 proved that cuz samui,atsui and darui were still concious.....

so.....to me that means madara is tobi-tobi is madara

and madara's soul is somehow trapped in the pure world....(some awesome 1st hokage sealing tech. or sumthin prob. the cause of this.......he danm sure wasn't beatin with wood no jutsu and is seen with huge scroll in his famous panel vs madara)

this is why madara needed nagato to use gedo on him!!!!!

and yes this also explains the 6th coffin.......if his soul is trapped in the pure world them kabuto would have the capability of summoning him......even tho he still existed........according to the rules of edo-tensai as we currently know them

and since madara is only a shell of his former self and edo summons come back with powers fully in tact, the edo would technically be stronger.......but madara still has his own advantage as he knows his self better than anyone

that would explain their reluctancy to fight one another and madara's reaction

so to wrap it up.......

madara is madara....tobi is madara

and sixth coffin is madara
you and i guys are really funny!! LOL! we all just focusin to madara,, most of you said that the man inside the 6th coffin is madara.. are all of you sure about that? yes although kabuto summoned madara due to IWR,, is'nt that mean that 6th coffin is madara, we'll all just turned our thoughts to that thing cauze edo-madara is now in action.. what if it hashirama senju? maybe that's the reason why tobi stopped attacking kabuto.. and tobi dont even notice that kabuto can summon madara because he saw and want kabuto to use IWR to man inside the 6th coffin (as i thought it was senju hashirama)..
 

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In my theory I showed pics of tobi from when he attacked Minato. Tobi already had a zetsu arm back then. It is show melting and almost falls off his body.(I will link it again if needed.

Why is that important? Because we know zetsu can make perfect clones that have the same chakra as the original, and even if you kill the clone, it still looks just like the person it cloned.

We saw this when zetsu copied Kisame and fought killer bee. A and Bee cut the zetsu clones head off and it still looked like Kisame. They thought they killed the real Kisame, but we all know he was hidden in samehada.

What that means is Fugaku could has easily created a zetsu clone of himself to fool itachi.

Simple as that. Itachi killed a zetsu clone that was pretending to be Fugaku.

It was all part of Fugakus master plan, since he knew itachi was working for the elders against him. He needed a way to disappear without becoming a rogue ninja.
This is one good theory.
But I still stick to what the manga has already revealed so far.
That Tobi is Madara. Tobi already mentioned it. Other characters seemed to know that way too.
 
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