[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion and 560 Predictions
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HokagePein
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well as someone mentioned before about zetsu makin perfect cloans we know that they cant be seen thru scent , eye visions , or bugs or mind techniques its very good copies. well what black zetsu killed madara or even just maybe he continued his work after he died because we saw when he fought the 4th and the bug guy b4 sasuke and danzo fought we kept seeing the liquid over and over well then lets say this. white zetsu's we see are being beaten and can fake there death very good but what if this the other half og the actual black zetsu is the perfect copy clone of madara? we see the mizukage sweating which means they might be having trouble with the black zetsu all the other white zetsus have full whites. the only black one is half and the other half has to be tobi we have seen it twice with 4th and with the clan bug guy. He is the original of all zetsu's and is there leader.
Well, it's quite a big tale to start with. It could just as well be a legend. While the sage had a lot of power, it's rather far-fetched to think he created the moon. Even more so if he did it to seal the body of the 10 tails, meaning he did it on his own accord and not using the beast's power.
I don't think he needs or wants the body of the 10 tails, he intends to seal it in himself in order to have the power to execute his eye of the moon plan. Will he be strong enough to contain it? Maybe not.
I think it's indeed plausable to think Naruto (and Sasuke) will have to fight the 10-tails.
I still think black zetsu has a bigger role in all of this then we've been told yet. I wouldn't be surprised to see a link between zetsu and the 10-tails. If the 10-tails originally was such a horrible demon, then it's not unthinkable that a part of it, aside of the 9 other beasts, has lived on. Maybe the 10-tails knew that it needed someone with the powers of the original sage in order to return to it's complete form...
Think about it. The clone Madara, Tobi, said about the rinnagan that it was his to begin with. What if this is the black zetsu part of him, referring to his old self as part of the sage? Black zetsu could have approached Madara with the intention of creating a person with both Uchiha and Senju DNA, in order to gain the skills of the old sage, but use them in a reversed manner to revive the 10-Tails in it's former glory (eye of the moon plan). It would then be easy for it to take over the willing fool who it had been playing for all this time, and terrorise the world again. After, "it is the land itself".
Well, time will tell
yah i think ur right, its like a yin and yang..a new character was born after madara and hashirima both die on their battle..the white zetsu represents hashirima and the black one represents madara..and the man behind the mask is also another zetsu..We also keep forgeting that we don't know who is black zetsu ? We know that white zetsu is a clone of the 1st so is it possible that black zetsu is a clone of madara ? But i'm positive that tobi is madara or zetsu clone...
Damn it can't wait for tomorow
you know i think that madara somehow found a way to preserve is mind as well as his eyes in the body of a zetsu which is now known as tobi. this would explain tobi's knowledge of all things madara like his past and all of his plans. it would also explain why tobi is thought to be "a shell of his former self" or rather a shell of madara. and it would explain how tobi has the sharingan and why he doesn't have blood when he broke off his arm but only white pulse. im thinking that maybe madara created tobi because he was nearing death and left pieces of himself behind so that he could be resurrected. this theory explains every quostion i could think of and fits perfectly to me. so with this being said i wouldn't say that tobi = half of madara but rather tobi = pieces of madara. makes sense?
i think my theory is bullet proof. who can find a whole in it? Madara left pieces of himself behind (his mind memories and eyes) and merged them with a zetsu now known as tobi. my theory can even explain why tobi claims the rinnegan was his to begin with. ok madara could not have left the rinnegan into his zetsu known as tobi because then who would believe that tobi was madara if tobi didn't have the sharigan? and madara needed to implant the rinnegan into someone because he needed for that person to grow strong enough to unlock the full powers of the rinnegan so that they would be strong enough to use the rinnegan's resurrection technique to revive him. this would also explain why when he was revived by kabuto the edo tensei madara knew nagato and made a statement that his revival finally happened and that nagato really managed to grow stronger. and we all know that kabuto's resurrection resurrects the person as they were last known so this would explain why the edo tensei madara has all the things he left behind ie his eyes and mind although tobi still has them too just like how itachi was resurrected with his eyes yet sasuke still has them am i right? and maybe the reason tobi has never used ems is because they may be madara's eyes but tobi's body isn't human so he simply can't activate it.
also remember tobi stated that it was madara who really won the battle with senju because he managed to take some of hashirima's power? well i believe that this power was the ability to create this black zetsu in which he used half of to create the body of his tobi along with half of a white one and and the other black half is the half you all clearly see.
come on people who can find a whole in this theory?? i dare anyone to try :flaw: lol
i think my theory is bullet proof. who can find a whole in it? Madara left pieces of himself behind (his mind memories and eyes) and merged them with a zetsu now known as tobi. my theory can even explain why tobi claims the rinnegan was his to begin with. ok madara could not have left the rinnegan into his zetsu known as tobi because then who would believe that tobi was madara if tobi didn't have the sharigan? and madara needed to implant the rinnegan into someone because he needed for that person to grow strong enough to unlock the full powers of the rinnegan so that they would be strong enough to use the rinnegan's resurrection technique to revive him. this would also explain why when he was revived by kabuto the edo tensei madara knew nagato and made a statement that his revival finally happened and that nagato really managed to grow stronger. and we all know that kabuto's resurrection resurrects the person as they were last known so this would explain why the edo tensei madara has all the things he left behind ie his eyes and mind although tobi still has them too just like how itachi was resurrected with his eyes yet sasuke still has them am i right? and maybe the reason tobi has never used ems is because they may be madara's eyes but tobi's body isn't human so he simply can't activate it.
also remember tobi stated that it was madara who really won the battle with senju because he managed to take some of hashirima's power? well i believe that this power was the ability to create this black zetsu in which he used half of to create the body of his tobi along with half of a white one and and the other black half is the half you all clearly see.
come on people who can find a whole in this theory?? i dare anyone to try :flaw: lol
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NOW READ THIS.. AND ILL PAY YOU $1000 IF ANYONE CAN TELL ME WHY THIS THEORY DOESNT FIT
I agree with you and also had the same theory posted like 592 pages ago.
Also want to add that itachi whipped out the uchiha clan with ease. Kagami was a s-rank level ninja and i doubt itachi could kill him without breaking a sweat. Also it is unknown as to how kagami died.
One more funny thing i found..
look at kagami's eye.. haven-reader.net/manga/Naruto/Chapter%20481%20-%20Danzos%20Death/ch481_UK_Page_01.png
compare to tobi's...flickr.com/photos/21554229@N04/2543724813/
I agree with you and also had the same theory posted like 592 pages ago.
Also want to add that itachi whipped out the uchiha clan with ease. Kagami was a s-rank level ninja and i doubt itachi could kill him without breaking a sweat. Also it is unknown as to how kagami died.
One more funny thing i found..
look at kagami's eye.. haven-reader.net/manga/Naruto/Chapter%20481%20-%20Danzos%20Death/ch481_UK_Page_01.png
compare to tobi's...flickr.com/photos/21554229@N04/2543724813/
welll one madara knows nagato two kagame had to be there when 1st fought madara guess what he wasnt he was probably a baby or didnt exist and secondly madara smart as **** you dont think he could figure out a person abilities ofc he can hes smart ass hell
KnowledgeGod
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Man I been stating this theory, since I became a member of this site. Im glad to see someone other then myself on the right path. I never been so confident of a theory and this one is sure to be the truth behind Tobi/Madara and Black Zestu. Black Zestu is divided into halfs as a two man cell. One of his halfs consist of Black Zestu and White 1/2 Zestu who was Killed by Susake.. The other half of Black Zestu is connected to the other 1/2 of White Zestu who is known as Tobi/Madara...... That's why you have the same similarities of the two. Split personalities with Tobi/Madara is exactly like when Black Zestu being telling White Zestu to stop joking and playing.
Honord Sage
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A confrontation between The Real Madara and Tobi might happen, after all would you not confront someone calling Himself You?
yousufnaruto
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after reading many posts i can say that tobi can be anyone no matter whoever he is but this new chapter is going to give an awesome impact on many readers and many people are waiting for tomorrow including myself i know this is very hard to wait but what you have to do you have to do!!!!!!!!!!!!
yousufnaruto
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some people are saying that kagami is tobi they could be right i really admire their theory but a question raise in my mind that if tobi=kagami which means that uchiha madara had been dead in fight with first hokage but if he was killed in that fight then how he is able to know about nagato because nagato cannot be present at that time(at lease it is not possible till now) please answer my question sorry for any spelling mistake
madara could have sealed a small part of himself inside tobi. like minato did with naruto.. they have a little talk where tobi tells madara he may have found someone to revive him, nagato.. madaras charka runs out and vanishes to the other world..
the thing is, kishi is the writer and can add stuff later on and implant it like it was always like that.. only time will give the real answers.
can't fkn wait for tomorrow O.O
Rico Uchiha
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that's a good point. like every theory there are some flaws in it. that's what happens with a good story, in this case naruto.
so big up for Kishi, that even after revealing madara, noone is sure about who Tobi is!
Rico Uchiha
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Tobi clearly talkes about something Itachi didn't know about him. What we know that it has to do with Tobi resisting Amaterasu.
Why..?
If Itachi knew 'that' , he wouldn't use Amaterasu via Sasuke, coz he would know that it won't work on Tobi.
Now what ways are there to eliminate Amaterasu?
1.Space/Time-Jutsu (to send it to another dimension) [NOT]
--> Itachi knew about it
2.Mangekyou Sharingan (like Sasuke did)
--> We've never seen him having one though
3.Cut off the burning limb (like Raikage also did)
--> Tobi could restore his arm like he did with the infected arm via Zetsu
Probably Itachi didn't know that Tobi has Hashirama's cells. And ofcourse apart from that, Itachi probably doesn't know Tobi's true identity.
Why..?
If Itachi knew 'that' , he wouldn't use Amaterasu via Sasuke, coz he would know that it won't work on Tobi.
Now what ways are there to eliminate Amaterasu?
1.Space/Time-Jutsu (to send it to another dimension) [NOT]
--> Itachi knew about it
2.Mangekyou Sharingan (like Sasuke did)
--> We've never seen him having one though
3.Cut off the burning limb (like Raikage also did)
--> Tobi could restore his arm like he did with the infected arm via Zetsu
Probably Itachi didn't know that Tobi has Hashirama's cells. And ofcourse apart from that, Itachi probably doesn't know Tobi's true identity.
KnowledgeGod
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Tobi/Madara and Black/White Zestu are the ultimate tag team....They posses all three eye technigues...Byakugan, Sharingan, and Rinnegan.....They know their own strenghts and weaknesses, plus they know the strengths and weaknesses of their enemies crazy!
Black Zestu is crazy elite to be holding his own with half a body against the 4th Mizukage, her highly skilled body guard with one of the seven swords, two leaf Tokubetsu Jonin and some other members of the alied forces. The Mizukage looks like she's exhausted.
I'm assuming that Black Zestu is using an advance Byakugan...
Black Zestu is crazy elite to be holding his own with half a body against the 4th Mizukage, her highly skilled body guard with one of the seven swords, two leaf Tokubetsu Jonin and some other members of the alied forces. The Mizukage looks like she's exhausted.
I'm assuming that Black Zestu is using an advance Byakugan...
Taiga Kazumi
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Kishi will probably drop another bomb on us and when we do figure out who Tobi is... I'm sure the naruto universe will never be the same... It will be ten times better! XD
Tomorrow is right around the corner heh, I can't wait to see if these great predictions will be coming truth. As my favorite one is somehow hoping that Tobi is Izuna and if that proves to be true. I will bow down to Izuna and says he's one of the best for tricking us for so long! *.*
Tomorrow is right around the corner heh, I can't wait to see if these great predictions will be coming truth. As my favorite one is somehow hoping that Tobi is Izuna and if that proves to be true. I will bow down to Izuna and says he's one of the best for tricking us for so long! *.*
Well Tobi kindalook like Obito that's right, and the right part of his body being crushed, etc... but that doesn't in any sense make Tobi being Obito, nor that foolish name thing (Obito_Tobi).
I think that Tobi (whoever he is) might have taken Obito's remaining Uchiha body but that doesn't mean Tobi is Obito
I think that Tobi (whoever he is) might have taken Obito's remaining Uchiha body but that doesn't mean Tobi is Obito
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