[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion and 560 Predictions

[Tayyab Akram]

There is zero chance of obito being tobi.

I already outlined all the problems with that theory.

I never said I know who it is 100%, but I CAN say without a doubt that it's NOT obito.

Now if a couple of noobs who have been here a month want to disagree with me that's fine, but keep in mind that when the truth is revealed, I WILL call all the tobito fans out.

Ask around, I'm right way more than when I'm wrong, and unlike you guys I have more evidene than "OMG obito is spelled almost the same as tobi!"

Obito: no motive, no skills, too young, and dead. Did I miss anything?

Yes you did miss. We only saw him crushed not dead. What happened after that no one knows. Am I wrong?

 

[BarBoBot]

KAKASHI had space time jutsu!!!!!
when did that happen?? please paste the link. maybe i've missed out something that you can enlighten me about.

umm yes kakashi has space time jutsu....his MS is able to warp object/people to a different place...we have seen it several times....but just because its similar to the jutsu Tobi uses is irrelevant. We dont have enough information about MS to know if ANYONE with MS can do similar abilities or if MS abilities are unique to a person/ family.

 

[Amelius]

tobi did summon the ninetails

it was told my narutos mother. he even threatend narutos life.

so sad

i really hope obito doesnt turn out to be tobi..

I mean he didnt have the strength to destroy the whole leaf by himself, so he used the nine-tails

 

[PositiveEmotions]

the nine tails didnt do much damage to the leave bc minato saved everyone

 

[serpiente clan]

yea its also proof that his right side of his body its all messed up juts like obitos right side of his body got crushed

i think kishi is not so stupid to make bad obito and hide the identity with a mask that reveals the identity,I think kishi wants to play with the minds of fans..the moment of truth is a new character

 

[nrto60]

I KNEW IT!!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I POSTED MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO A THEORY AND IT WAS RIGHT!
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WHAT AN AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING CHAPTER!!!

BUT DAMN DAMN DAMN I WAS SO LATE TO READ IT DUE TO ENGINEERING SEMESTER START!

WHAT AN AMAZING GIFT TO GET....
LOVE YOU KISHI!

AND TTHIS ALSO SHOWS HOW MUCH OROCHIMARU HAD PLANNED AHEAD TO RULE THE WORLD!!!

Chapter 527 answered the questions


you know what i liked about this chapter??

it solves the madara/tobi mystery for me!!

i never believed he was real madara until now......why, because the shell of his former self thing (i thought that there was no way for his mind and body to act without a soul)

but thats obviously not the case as chap. 527 proved that cuz samui,atsui and darui were still concious.....

so.....to me that means madara is tobi-tobi is madara

and madara's soul is somehow trapped in the pure world....(some awesome 1st hokage sealing tech. or sumthin prob. the cause of this.......he danm sure wasn't beatin with wood no jutsu and is seen with huge scroll in his famous panel vs madara)

this is why madara needed nagato to use gedo on him!!!!!

and yes this also explains the 6th coffin.......if his soul is trapped in the pure world them kabuto would have the capability of summoning him......even tho he still existed........according to the rules of edo-tensai as we currently know them

and since madara is only a shell of his former self and edo summons come back with powers fully in tact, the edo would technically be stronger.......but madara still has his own advantage as he knows his self better than anyone

that would explain their reluctancy to fight one another and madara's reaction

so to wrap it up.......

madara is madara....tobi is madara

and sixth coffin is madara

YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY BE RIGHT BRO, WHAT A PERCEPTION!

LOVE YOU KISHI JUST LOVE YOU!

 

[PositiveEmotions]

i think kishi is not so stupid to make bad obito and hide the identity with a mask that reveals the identity,I think kishi wants to play with the minds of fans..the moment of truth is a new character

yea i agree with u buddy we can only make theories and guess but only kishi will reveal to us who is behind the mask

 

[baah]

hmmm... did anyone notice.....madara's right sharingan is hidden and tobi's left sharingan was hidden before he got the rinnegan.... i am on the tobi is madara side so i guess this tells us that tobi is still madara.... we will know the truth when kishi reveals the power that was awaken when madara got his EMS......

 

[nrto60]

hmmm... did anyone notice.....madara's right sharingan is hidden and tobi's left sharingan was hidden before he got the rinnegan.... i am on the tobi is madara side so i guess this tells us that tobi is still madara.... we will know the truth when kishi reveals the power that was awaken when madara got his EMS......

Here is what i had thought a long time ago about the would be masked madara:

Its funny to see people racking their brains on cartoon series
Well lets join the group
I have formed a theory after a lot brain work..

--> (1) We have seen extensive use of zetsu clones by madara lately, so could it be that madara fooled hashirama senju by using genjutsu and escaped desperately injured.

(2). He then incorporated the DNA of hashirama, used izanagi to form black and white zetsu.

(3). He lost his left EMS but made a perfect zetsu clone of himself and planted all his "memories" and his evil "will" into that zetsu clone alongwith his right EMS. Then died afterwards, meaning his soul went to hell...

Now if sasori can put his memories in that tubular heart, and minato can put a part of himself in naruto's conscience, i think madara can also do that to zetsu...

(4). The zetsu(madara) hid or destroyed the original body of madara...

(5). Then the zetsu-madara clone assumed the personality of "tobi" and started the mission by influence of madara's evil will...

(6). Decades passed and tobi continued to work to bring great destruction or evil to the world, formed akatsuki, developed rinnegan and did all the things we saw including controlling the kyuubi with left over of what-might-be-true EMS ability..

(7). Now tobi had all the knowledge of real madara and the experience of past, but he didnot have the strength to claim what could be his, inshort, tobi-zetsu's body was very weak... He couldnt go head on and fight, instead he remained in shadows and used other people or strategies for his dirty work...

(8). Now tobi wanted to revive juubi and become juubi no jinchuuriki to become "complete" or invincible(duh!) so that he could control the whole world... (evil laughter MUAHAHAHA)

(9). But orochimaru joined akatsuki, gathered a lot of intel, remaining was gathered by kabuto, and they came to know that real madara is dead(R.I.P) and could be revived(assumption).

(10). So with oro sealed away, the sidekick kabuto got a chance to shine, he found the remains of madara's real body and used his DNA in EDO tensei!

(11). Kabuto brought back the SOUL of real MADARA from Pure world(hell probably) to this world and REAL MADARA WAS REVIVED AND GOT HIS BODY too, which is obvious in edo tensei!

(12). Now this act seems most unnatural to me that scared tobi-zetsu out of his wits, that he thought WTF! I have to fight real me??

Its possible that "Revived-real-madara" is in the sixth coffin and it is also possible THAT HE KNOWS HOW TO COMPLETEY DESTROY THE ZETSUS as he had formed them, u know like undo a jutsu even without his original eyes... This might be a real worry for "Tobi-zetsu-madara"

it means he is a zetsu clone made by actual madara ..

 

[baah]

i don't think its possible for ems

what minato did is purely a sealing technique
ems isn't known for fuinjutsu

well sasuke took over oro using his normal sharingan....

 

[serpiente clan]

Here is what i had thought a long time ago about the would be masked madara:



it means he is a zetsu clone made by actual madara ..

agreed thanks....I always thought the same thing

 

[baah]

agreed thanks....I always thought the same thing

agreed too.... but it must be a special kind of clone...

 

[baah]

tobi/madara planned the kyuubi attack so that the village will suspect the uchia.... the uchia has no choice but to plan a coup d'etat..... which forced the konoha top officials to use itachi to massacre his own clan....
now i can imagine how sasuke will return to the good side.... i would like to see naruto as hokage and sasuke as the root leader...

 

[serpiente clan]

remenber that tobi is make we senju cell and uchiha cell the to blood descendants of the sage

 

[KnowledgeGod]

here is the page. It shows tobi grabbing him with his RIGHT hand. He has both hands raised as he re-materialises behind him, then the next frame it shows him grab with his RIGHT HAND ONLY.

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why dont you show the pic that has BOTH of Tobi's hands TOUCHING torune... oh wait you CANT. :flaw:

Your dumb and your comprehension level is at a all time low. Sorry if anybody is offended but this person is dumb.

You think because he ripping his right arm off that that means he didn't grab him with both arm? Idiot it never shows him grabing with only the right arm. It only shows him reaching to grab with both arms and the after affect is him reaching to snatch off his right arm in pain.... Torune bugs didn't have an affect on his left arm because it's Made of Black Zestu exoskeleton underneath the White Zestu clone matter!

 

[Mystikk]

agreed too.... but it must be a special kind of clone...

Yess im putting my money on this theory... the man behind the mask is a zetsu clone. with half of madara's soul.. and his EMS.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Yess im putting my money on this theory... the man behind the mask is a zetsu clone. with half of madara's soul.. and his EMS.

than your gonna lose that bet dude

 

[serpiente clan]

agreed too.... but it must be a special kind of clone...

remenber that tobi is make we senju cell and uchiha cell the to blood descendants of the sage

 

[Mystikk]

than your gonna lose that bet dude

Explain why? I haven't been on the forum in a while but Im here now.

So Explain your theory please.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Explain why? I haven't been on the forum in a while but Im here now.

So Explain your theory please.

u said its a zetzu clone but i dont think tho but it does have something to do with zetzu tho like zetzu giving his own body to tobi/obito if possible