[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 536 Discussion and 537 Predictions

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has anyone ever thought that it could have been the sage of six paths that was in that coffin that scared madara or tobi who ever he is think about he fought the 1st and is still alive, he fought minato and didnt even get a scratch the only person that should strike fear in his heart should be the sage of six paths
 

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floydical said:
A good theory, but Madara is Madara, no doubt. The more time that passes, the more unlikely it becomes that he is some random Uchiha. Too much time has been spent explaining Madara's history, his influence on the world and his countless misdeeds for it to not really be him. We know that Itachi knew of Madara's existence and his strength. There is absolutely no doubt that Tobi is Madara in some form or another. To me, the most likely scenario is that it is indeed Madara in his original body, but he has altered his body to be comprised primarily of Zestu DNA, giving him great healing abilities and extended life. The indications are just too great to point anywhere else.

Many questions are still unanswered like why his appearance changes with time, his use of space-time jutsu without currently having a MS, his survival after loosing to the 1st, and his seemingly split personality. The biggest thing to keep in mind the order of all this stuff, like how he couldn't have used Izangi to survive his battle with the first because he hadn't yet gained Senju DNA. I would like to know what happened to Kagami Uchiha however; of all Danzo's old allies, he's the only one that we never saw again after his flashback:
I suppose if it is another Uchiha, he'd be the best candidate, but I really highly doubt it.
dmclea10 said:
Sorry man, I think that is pretty darn farfetched to do all this, I think the better manga uses subtle and well timed twists. This one you put out was interesting but I just can't picture him going to so much trouble to conceal this. Also, I find it hard for Itachi to not see through this as well as the Yondaime not to see this also....they are two of the best shinobi ever and I don't think they would be fooled as to the way Tobi/Madara is doing his stuff.

I think its just simply that Zetsu his pet is still under habit calling him Tobi, and Kishi is giving us all opportunities to speculate into the story .

P.S. I cant imagine Naruto losing his tailed beast, cos I believe the way that his father gave him that chakra for a reason when he first met madara on the night he died.
Appreciate the feedback you two! I thought initially and still do consider this theory to be a stretch as you two do, but I thought I would see how it would fair in the responses, so again, thank you for the feedback. Now tell me what you think of my more favorable theory to "The Madara Mystery."

"Madara" is in deed Madara.
After being defeated/mortally wounded from his fight with Hashirama, he fled using his space-time jutsu with some of the powerful senju's DNA in tow.
Out of respect for his own brother, Izuna, Madara kept his body.
He went to the location of Izuna's body after the fight with Hashirama.
Combining Hashirama's DNA with himself and his brother's body, Madara was ready.
He sacrificed his left eye and with his new Senju DNA used Izanagai.
The result was, Zetsu.
Madara from then on was 100% compatible with Zetsu and could regenerate his body.

Sixth coffin explanation:
Since Oro was such a little sneak during his lifetime he/kabuto probably gathered all the DNA from the akatsuki, hence them being IWR.
Examining Zetsu's DNA, he found Hashirama's DNA and Izuna's
He then created Yamato using Hashirama's DNA and stored Izuna's/saved Hashirama's for a later battle we all known and love.
Sooo the person behind the sixth coffin is, Izuna.
Keep in mind that before Madara got the Rinnegan he was a little taken back and somewhat worried. Reason being...
A). He thought Izuna wouldn't be IWR because he possessed the body in the form of Zetsu.
B). I think Izuna was more powerful than Madara and he achieved EMS, as well. Madara stole his eyes and wasn't given them, IMO.
A revived Izuna with limitless EMS and knowledge of Madara's strengths and weaknesses would be enough to make him respect Kabuto.
Kabuto also said he wouldn't speak of "Madara's secret". I would say Madara using Izuna's body and Izanagai to create Zetsu would be apretty good secret for someone to be able to figure out!

dmclea10, to add to your PS...

I think Naruto will lose the tailed beast, but he will still keep some of his chakra. Reason, being he was in Kushina's womb while she had the nine-tails. I think this caused him to absorb some of the nine-tails chakra permanently. Similarly to the Kin-Gin Bros and this was their primary reason for their inclusion, it shows that someone doesn't have to be a jinchuuriki to have the tailed beast chakra. Also, I think their characters and the chakra they possess will become a factor in this war.
 

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has anyone ever thought that it could have been the sage of six paths that was in that coffin that scared madara or tobi who ever he is think about he fought the 1st and is still alive, he fought minato and didnt even get a scratch the only person that should strike fear in his heart should be the sage of six paths
umm, we dont really know he fought the first as its still not confirmed madara

and um what are you talking about? fight minato and not getting a scratch? have you read the manga?
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by the looks of it, minato hit him pretty hard with a rasengan that was strong enough to destroy the ground surrounding the area pretty badly. i think THAT would leave more than a few scratches.
and as you can see on the page where minato actually stabs him before he can activate his intangible jutsu, he loses a hand.
i think that also would leave more than a few scratches. in fact i think those attacks would hurt him pretty bad.

if you dont agree that tobi took some direct attacks that left more than a few scrathes then lets ask tobi for his casting vote.

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you could have stopped at "managing to wound me".
 
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Alright I've decided my theory the izangi to create Zetsu was one of the best theories I've heard props on that. I do wonder if Madara currently has a EMS and, I've decided naruto will not loose his tailed beast Bee will die but Madara will be to exhausted to fight naruto he will take bee and he will figure out he can use the hidden cloud ancient villains and extract their nine tails chakra to revive the jubi. Naruto will unlock the rinnengan as he is supposed to the mutation will occur because itachis crow power and senju will cause it. Naruto will use all the strength of the kyubi and the rinnengan and seal the jubi inside himself. As for sasuke I have not decided if Naruto and him will have the all out fight to the death later in the series or they team up to kill the jubi madara, and Sasuke gets past his ridiculous feud on the leaf ( but the leaf feud I doubt will end it is basically his lifes mission) This may be farfetched, but opinions on this would be great I think it's just the shocking suprise twist that kishi could pull off without totally pulling something out of his ass.
 

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First thing comes first. Naruto as the protagonist, will survive the war.. After all when the fox enrages, it could destroy anything it sees.. That's my opinion.
 

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First thing comes first. Naruto as the protagonist, will survive the war.. After all when the fox enrages, it could destroy anything it sees.. That's my opinion.
Well ya Naruto will survive the war but we can't be sure of what will happen in the ultimate battle between Naruto and Sasuke. I just don't want Naruto to die.
 

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when i said not even a scratch it was an exaggeration as to how he stated he was mortally wounded by the first and the fourth just mangaged to wound him alittle its not like he was dying after that encounter because it was over so soon it didnt seem like a real battle and deter his plans alittle longer in the end forget all the theories we are just going to have to wait and see what happens but that zetsu theory is cool and still the actual sage of six in that coffin would be awsome
 

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This is just a guess but i think that "substitution" madara was talking about is probably just another Zetsu clone like what happened with Kisame....Madara may need his real self to stay back and guard Sasuke from Kabuto.....b/c im pretty sure Kabuto would take advantage of any distraction to get his hands on Sasuke.
 

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I don't know why but suddenly I strongly believe that Tobi is not Madara.

I just have the feeling that when Naruto encounters Tobi that the Fox will say to Naruto that he isn't Madara. Or something like that

I really now believe 100% that in the final coffin is Madara himself. 100% Madara. I believe Madara really did die after his battle with the 1st.

I do not have a clue who Tobi is. I just believe now that it is 100% not Madara. I've read so many theories that strongly suggest it is Madara. Everything in the Manga strongly shows Tobi is Madara.

That is why I believe it is not Madara, I believe Kishi is messing with us so badly with this and will laugh his ass off when everyone is :O OMFG IT NOT MADARA.

I believe these events could make Tobi reveal his not Madara.

Either when Tobi and Naruto are talking and Naruto says to Tobi he knows he is not Madara.

Or when Tobi finally has the Juubi sealed within him and rips of his own mask to reveal who he is.

I have no evidence at all to suggest he isn't Madara but the biggest slap in the face to me is Kishi made it seem so impossible that Tobi can't be anyone but Madara that it be such a big shock that all this evidence points to Tobi being Madara then suddenly BOOM Tobi reveals who he is and shocks everyone when he is not Madara.
 

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when i said not even a scratch it was an exaggeration as to how he stated he was mortally wounded by the first and the fourth just mangaged to wound him alittle its not like he was dying after that encounter because it was over so soon it didnt seem like a real battle and deter his plans alittle longer in the end forget all the theories we are just going to have to wait and see what happens but that zetsu theory is cool and still the actual sage of six in that coffin would be awsome
minato only got a single move on tobi and it lost tobi his control of the fox and wounded him to the point he had to leave and abandon his goal for the time being and try again in 16 years.

to me that is a full minato win that tobi would of avoided at all costs if possible.
also being mortally wounded by the first? that is only IF he is actually the madara. which i dont think he is.
i mean even IF tobi was madara those battles cannot be compared cause tobi left and minato went to deal with the fox which madara didnt against the first. if tobi sayed to fight minato then maybe the fourth would have beaten him seeing that minato had his seal on tobi so could stay on the offence which would have eventually beaten him.....most likely.

yh that zetsu theory is pretty good and i dont know how kabuto was going to get a hold of the sages dna. it must have been long gone. i still think the coffin contains madara.
 

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ok tobi or madara who ever he is stated that the rinnegan was his to begin with and before that he said im just a shell of my former self maybe its the sage trying to get his full form back. maybe but we shall see shortly
 

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you do have a point there death if he really is madara thursday just cant get here fast enough. and i noticed something before and i could have sworn someone said the same thing on this site that sometimes the anime is different from the manga is that true like the anime takes stuff out or changes it to there liking
 
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While you could be right I say that it is madara and the sage of sixth paths is in the coffin that is why Kabuto says I will learn sage of six paths secrets, because now madara possess his eyes and he needs to learn how to beat it. Now it could be either way but the sage wasn't evil and his sons witnessed him die so it must be madara kishi is just trying to get everyone to focus so much on if tobi really is madara they wont see the big twist coming which I can't forsee yet either.
 

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i think madra is going to get the 8 tails because madra is gonna get naruto but bee jumps in to save him and puts his trust into naruto.and then naruto is gonna be the last jinnjuriki then i think saske will attack and kill madara and tae his powers then attack naruto but in the procces naruto becomes a ultimate jinjurikixd:cool::DO.O:):rolleyes::eek::whoa::drive::doug::omg::naruto::naruto:
but doesnt it take like 3 days to seal a tailed beast away into gezo meza and now that their isnt that many akutsuki members it might take longer. and besides the war has only been like one day maybe. i think if they seal the beasts away kabuto will us the remaining akatsuki members he revived such as itachi, and nagato and if kabuto takes orochimarus old place. he may be able to summon konan and even yahiko but deidara and kakuzu too and he can also revive kisame to make the sealing process faster. i wonder if they need any chakra from the kingin brothers and sora but they do need naruto
 
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but doesnt it take like 3 days to seal a tailed beast away into gezo meza and now that their isnt that many akutsuki members it might take longer. and besides the war has only been like one day maybe. i think if they seal the beasts away kabuto will us the remaining akatsuki members he revived such as itachi, and nagato and if kabuto takes orochimarus old place. he may be able to summon konan and even yahiko but deidara and kakuzu too and he can also revive kisame to make the sealing process faster. i wonder if they need any chakra from the kingin brothers and sora but they do need naruto

it takes really long if you dont have enough chakara....now madara has 7 of the tailed beast...with that much chakar you vouls be done in like a minute..but good point...madara dosnt really need to revive them just to get the 8 and 9 tails
 
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