[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 509 Discussion/ 510 Predictions

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"Don't underestimate the powers of an uchiha child." I wonder what he means by this. He's too old to be considered a child. Maybe his sharingan was taken from a child. Obito?
 

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Its obvious that your are young. He was calling Konan a child not referring to himself as a child...
"Don't underestimate the powers of an uchiha child." I wonder what he means by this. He's too old to be considered a child. Maybe his sharingan was taken from a child. Obito?
actually, it's obviously bad grammar. english or otherwise, a comma should have been there :|. the most important bit of grammar is the comma :flaw:

edit: even I thought that "child" referred to himself... but I ignored it thinking it was an unusual metaphor.
We've seen proof that he's very very old. much older than kakashi. the obito thing is pointless
 
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Madara looks like Obito lolz, he even has the bandage wrapped around his forehead. Kishi is trying to mess with the fans yet again.
 

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i've actually enjoyed recent chapters, alot has been explained and alot has happend. This one was great aswell, although i'm rooting for konan we all know whats going to happen to her..
 

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Madara looks like Obito lolz, he even has the bandage wrapped around his forehead. Kishi is trying to mess with the fans yet again.
Not saying Madara is Obito but Madara is also not Madara unless we see his full face. Tobi is someone who claims to be Madara and resembles the look of what Obito would've looked liked if he lived and grew up to be Kakashi's age.

I don't think he's Obito but I don't think he's Madara also.
 

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i dont know what to think about tobi/madara anymore... but one thing im almost positive about is Zetsu having a BIG role. im not sure how... but im sure Zetsu's secrets would explain everything... and also if you look at page 5 or 6 of ch.486 you can see "madara" replacing his arm after he lost one to danzos men. not sure how but it looks like a Zetsu looking thing replaced it.lol.

Observe- <-what the hell is that thing?! (first panel)

Anyway, im sure those two are the source of all this. which came first tho, the zetsu or the "madara/tobi" lol

also, im not implying anything... im simply stating some facts along with some of my thoughts.
 
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that technique from konan was awesome but is it enough to take down madara by the way why madara doesn't show his powers i mean hi uses only that space time technique why dont hi use his ms after all hi is uchiha madara iam so disappointed from him how long are we gonnna w8 to see his powers ad his face. it sucks man
maybe becouse he dont have those pwoers, otherways he wouldnt risk like that all the time :D
 

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awesome chapter! i was wondering though. couldnt madara just kill konan and get kabuto to use his impure world ressurection tech to revive her, once the seal is then on her wouldnt she be a slave? and actually tell him where nagato is??
just a thought!!
 

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awesome chapter! i was wondering though. couldnt madara just kill konan and get kabuto to use his impure world ressurection tech to revive her, once the seal is then on her wouldnt she be a slave? and actually tell him where nagato is??
just a thought!!
yea that makes since .. but he has to kill her before she blows herself to pieces trying to kill him.. but once she's dead its countless ways to get information out of a dead body.
 

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i dont know what to think about tobi/madara anymore... but one thing im almost positive about is Zetsu having a BIG role. im not sure how... but im sure Zetsu's secrets would explain everything... and also if you look at page 5 or 6 of ch.486 you can see "madara" replacing his arm after he lost one to danzos men. not sure how but it looks like a Zetsu looking thing replaced it.lol.

Observe- <-what the hell is that thing?! (first panel)

Anyway, im sure those two are the source of all this. which came first tho, the zetsu or the "madara/tobi" lol

also, im not implying anything... im simply stating some facts along with some of my thoughts.
Nice observation! I also believe Zetsu has a big role.
 

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what if madara gave the rinnegan to Nagato as in he is his father ? It is been said by kakashi that rinnegan is a mutation. Thus it is possible that Nagato's sharingan has mutated to rinnegan somehow. And obviously Madara was watching over his son and knew that Yahiko has an influence on Nagato. So he manupulated Yahiko to form Akatsuki to make his son work for him unnoticed.
For Naruto having the rinnegan; i guess it is unlogical since long fated battle of so6p's decendants wont work naruto having the both body and the eyes of the sage. Naruto has the body now with the control over kyubi thus Sasuke having the rinnegan with madara's help will create perfect matchup.
Madara himself stated Naruto that he will make Naruto and Sasuke fight each other. I dont beleive he will let sasuke face his rival without so6p's eyes.
On the other hand madara also stated that he is going to sync sasuke with gedo mazo and i believe that gedo mazo summoning requires rinnegan.
In the lights of these statements my predictions are Madara will get Rinnegan somehow and transplant them to Sasuke somehow.
 

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Wow, awsome chapter!:D We have to see his face soon if he don`t replace it with another mask later onxd

Nagato is older than Kakashi and Obito.. If Tobi/Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan before he (Nagato) killed his parents` murders (meaning he gave it to him when Nagato was a child), then it must mean that Tobi/Madara is older than Nagato... Hence he CAN`T be Obito because Nagato is older than Obito.

However.. This thought have struck me for awhile...

What if the ultimate sharingan power (EMS) has somewhat the same ability as the Rinnegan where the user controlls peoples? Like going beyond controlling live peoples but also controlling dead ones. So my guess is that the real Madara(the one who fought Hashirama) has controll over a body (Tobi) which he sort of speaks through as Nagato did through the Pains?

That may be the reason why he doesn`t use his original powers because he doesn`t fight in person.

Also, this might explain why "his body"/Tobi can heal himself and get back body parts. Because he`s already dead or similar.

So my theory is: "What if he`s able to take controll over dead bodies like Nagato did and somewhat heal them as long as their body are intact?"

That might explain why Tobi looks so young and at the same time looks like Obito and have a similar tech to what Kakashi`s MS has.

What if he healed Obito`s body and took control over it?

It would then be kinda similar to Nagato taking over dead bodies.

But there is only one flaw in this theory that i can see...

If he took controll over Obito`s dead body and healed it. Then How can a dead body age and grow?:confused:

And also, where does Zetsu fit into all this? Maybe he made a copy of Obito`s body and/or Sharingan? Maybe that`s the reason why Tobi/Madara looks like he`s bleeding goo and not blood?

And what would scare Tobi/Madara in Kabuto`s last coffin?

So my other theory is this: "What if Madara died in the battle vs the 1st. Then his brother somehow got one of Madara`s eye, hence the mask(and also because he didn`t want to reveal that he`s Madara`s brother and not Madara himself)?"..

Later on he (instead of Madara and with the help of Zetsu) took controll over/made a copy of Obito`s dead body, and that is why he got affraid of the last coffin. Because that contained the real Madara and if he got revived, he(Madara`s brother with the name i can`t remember) would lose the power in his EMS eye which he took from Madara after his(Madara`s) death.

That would also explain why he knows so much about Madara and such too.

But this is only me tossing ideas out to the public:rolleyes:
 
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Madara already lost and regained an arm before... ch 486 page 5 or 6 i believe... madara and zetsu are linked in a way that is deeper then just comrades i think. i dont know how but they are.
Yea ive been thinking the same also. Hes connect to zetsu some how. Rember when killerbee and his brother had chopped of kisame head off. And it was a just a clone that zetsu made. But its no ordinary clone. Like a living being itself. And also madara said in his own words i am just a former shell of myself. And clones arnt as strong as the actual person in its orginally body. Zetsu is playing a major role in madaras survival and thats y hes been around so and is one of the original akatsuki thats living.
 

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Wow, awsome chapter!:D We have to see his face soon if he don`t replace it with another mask later onxd

Nagato is older than Kakashi and Obito.. If Tobi/Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan before he (Nagato) killed his parents` murders (meaning he gave it to him when Nagato was a child), then it must mean that Tobi/Madara is older than Nagato... Hence he CAN`T be Obito because Nagato is older than Obito.

However.. This thought have struck me for awhile...

What if the ultimate sharingan power (EMS) has somewhat the same ability as the Rinnegan where the user controlls peoples? Like going beyond controlling live peoples but also controlling dead ones. So my guess is that the real Madara(the one who fought Hashirama) has controll over a body (Tobi) which he sort of speaks through as Nagato did through the Pains?

That may be the reason why he doesn`t use his original powers because he doesn`t fight in person.

Also, this might explain why "his body"/Tobi can heal himself and get back body parts. Because he`s already dead or similar.

So my theory is: "What if he`s able to take controll over dead bodies like Nagato did and somewhat heal them as long as their body are intact?"

That might explain why Tobi looks so young and at the same time looks like Obito and have a similar tech to what Kakashi`s MS has.

What if he healed Obito`s body and took control over it?

It would then be kinda similar to Nagato taking over dead bodies.

But there is only one flaw in this theory that i can see...

If he took controll over Obito`s dead body and healed it. Then How can a dead body age and grow?:confused:

And also, where does Zetsu fit into all this? Maybe he made a copy of Obito`s body and/or Sharingan? Maybe that`s the reason why Tobi/Madara looks like he`s bleeding goo and not blood?

And what would scare Tobi/Madara in Kabuto`s last coffin?

So my other theory is this: "What if Madara died in the battle vs the 1st. Then his brother somehow got one of Madara`s eye, hence the mask(and also because he didn`t want to reveal that he`s Madara`s brother and not Madara himself)?"..

Later on he (instead of Madara and with the help of Zetsu) took controll over/made a copy of Obito`s dead body, and that is why he got affraid of the last coffin. Because that contained the real Madara and if he got revived, he(Madara`s brother with the name i can`t remember) would lose the power in his EMS eye which he took from Madara after his(Madara`s) death.

That would also explain why he knows so much about Madara and such too.

But this is only me tossing ideas out to the public:rolleyes:
My theory is kind like this but the thing we have to take into account is when Kisame 1st meets Madara he looks exactly like he did when he fought the 1st & of course when he fought with the 4th he had a different body so somewhere in that middle he changed bodies the question is why would Madara change his look or body since he did not change it right after his fight with the 1st

& my theory is Madara decided to extract the 3tails from the Mizukage & he summoned Gedo Mazo not knowing what happens to the 1 that summons it i think it drained him like it did Nagato & his body was useless after that i think Zetsu keep him alive after that & i think Zetsu recovered another body for him 1st but maybe like Orochimaru he had to keep switching bodies or he just wanted a more powerful body or at least a body of an Uchiha & maybe Zetsu did recover Obito's body & thats who Madara is in now & the dimensional powers Madara has may be Obito's MS ability since it's kinda similar to what Kakashi can do.
 
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