[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 509 Discussion/ 510 Predictions

[Alkad]

Your Rite sasuke has alot of chakra .. more than kakashi an most ninja.. but naruto has the most chakra in the series.. there isn't a ninja who could create 1000 shadow clones.. or mix nature manipulation with chakra!!!

I love sasuke to death he's my second fav. next too itachi.. but for the last battle I see uzumaki naruto pulling off the win! only because naruto still hasn't learned his second affinity, and he could learn deadly seals like his father from his clan.

I definitely agree with the chakra part. But I think that naruto's a pretty long way from learning to use another nature manip. He couldn't even do his affinity properly, needing an extra clone for that too.

The Uzumaki seals that he can learn are, imo, either completely lost, or within anyone's reach. He won't find them unless a live person gives them to him. He's not even close to his father's genius.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I definitely agree with the chakra part. But I think that naruto's a pretty long way from learning to use another nature manip. He couldn't even do his affinity properly, needing an extra clone for that too.

The Uzumaki seals that he can learn are, imo, either completely lost, or within anyone's reach. He won't find them unless a live person gives them to him. He's not even close to his father's genius.

It was mentioned that the Uzumaki's that lived through the destruction of the whirlpool country spread throughout the world and that they have unnaturally long lives. It is not too far of a leap to think that Naruto will go looking for his families country and in the process find another Uzumaki to teach him. I personally think that he will gain his second affinity for water on that trip as well as some seals.

The reason I think that he will end up with Air, Water, Sage Mode and 9 tails chakra is that he will eventually have to fight Sasuke with Rinnegan. I made this prediction a while back but I still think that in the end Naruto will get the Rinnegan from Sasuke in order to save the world from the 10 tails reborn through Madara. I know that is a long way off if it happens at all but for now I think Naruto's next step is to go looking for the whirlpool country and find a new Sensei to teach him his second affinity and Uzumaki seal tech. A good reason for him to leave that island and find a new place to hide out will most likely be either crushed or solidified this week when we find out if that shark with the scroll got away (which it definitely looked to have.) In either case I still think that Naruto will end up in the whirpool country one way or another and there he will find his next Sensei, an Uzumaki one.

As always my predictions are nothing more than predictions so don't get your panties in a bunch if I don't agree with something you think will happen. In the end only Kishi really knows.

 

[plushy]

hm ive said it before naruto learning new justsu is out of the question and as for the clones the arent much use i meen besides helping with rasengon and when they get hit exsplodeing is all they do and sasuke can see the real one so i wont make a differnce in their fight wich i would love if its long cause i wanna see lots of justu and mix of eyes and narutos fox

also rember naruto has a tec that itachi gave him. wich would be awsome if itachi comes up kinda like the fourth and talks to sasuke just like the fourth so who knows but i cant wait to see

 

[plushy]

plus i think either they bothe die as said or naruto finally gets sasuke on his side unlikely but who knows

 

[mjtuvok]

It was mentioned that the Uzumaki's that lived through the destruction of the whirlpool country spread throughout the world and that they have unnaturally long lives. It is not too far of a leap to think that Naruto will go looking for his families country and in the process find another Uzumaki to teach him. I personally think that he will gain his second affinity for water on that trip as well as some seals.

The reason I think that he will end up with Air, Water, Sage Mode and 9 tails chakra is that he will eventually have to fight Sasuke with Rinnegan. I made this prediction a while back but I still think that in the end Naruto will get the Rinnegan from Sasuke in order to save the world from the 10 tails reborn through Madara. I know that is a long way off if it happens at all but for now I think Naruto's next step is to go looking for the whirlpool country and find a new Sensei to teach him his second affinity and Uzumaki seal tech. A good reason for him to leave that island and find a new place to hide out will most likely be either crushed or solidified this week when we find out if that shark with the scroll got away (which it definitely looked to have.) In either case I still think that Naruto will end up in the whirpool country one way or another and there he will find his next Sensei, an Uzumaki one.

As always my predictions are nothing more than predictions so don't get your panties in a bunch if I don't agree with something you think will happen. In the end only Kishi really knows.

I mentioned this as a potential as well earlier:

On another thought anyone wonder if the Uzumaki clan might not have some hidden SEAL JUTSU that havent been discovered yet???

Hidden just like the uchiha clan had their secret hideout. Yes I know the village itself was wiped out but perhaps it was hidden in a nearby cave.
It would be pretty cool if he found a seal justu that say allowed him to seal off the sharingan or EMS, or Rhinnegan? Food for thought .....


However I like your idea of him actually finding a survivor some old man who survived and has been hidden all this time who remembers and wants to pass it on to a younger clan member....only to find there are non left. Then Naruto while searching for his roots *(coincidentally) runs into this guy who eventually comes to recognize he is a descendant of MITO (first hokages wife) and passes on some Mega-anti-uchiha-no sharingan jutsu technique along with others to naruto. It is not to far fetched for this manga story to find out that the elders themselves (from Konoha) may actually know of hidden scrolls which are actually in Leaf Village. Remember when naruto was a little kid he stole a scroll from Hokage mansion for Mizuke Sensei...(Manga no 1 pg 20).there were a lot of scrolls of hidden/fobidden jutsu's So again it is not a stretch to think there may be scrolls from 1st hokage & from his wife's Mito Uzumaki clan that were hidden in here as well.

 

[incme2002]

Have you seen the chapter where Sasuke takes itachis eyes?

Chapter 488

Sasuke say "i want those eyes" it doesn't mean he has now the EMS coz no where in the manga indicates that he has EMS.

 

[Yukimaru Yoshi]

on the sasuke vs naruto topic:

I wonder, I'll give it to the emo princess, he has a wider range of techniques than naruto. but I'll flatly disagree with anyone who says they're even for chakra. Naruto has always had more chakra than sasuke, even before using the fox. This stands to reason because apparently if I understood yamato correctly, naruto's chakra has been holding the kyuubi's in check his whole life. So to me it seems like naruto's chakra has always been training since the day he was born, far more so than other shinobi's.

Add to that sage, and now controlled fox chakra, and no, even with a power boost from itachi's eyes, Sasuke doesn't have nearly as much chakra as naruto.

However, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, sheer chakra alone doesn't win fights. Sasuke has beaten him before even though naruto had more chakra.

second time they stalemated, though Sasuke was weakened, and naruto was poisoned.

on the one hand, I want to say naruto's attacks are too limited, and too predictable, even if they are powerful. And the emo princess has more jutsus he can call upon. So the advantage goes to the emo princess. No matter how loath I am to admit that.

yet I think naruto may be safe from genjutsu. speaking of tsukiyomi(sp?): Normally there are 2 ways out of a genjutsu, however tsukiyomi eliminates 1 of them because it happens instnatly, so the only other way is to disrupt your chakra flow to over power the genjutsu's hold. with sage or kyuubi chakra, or both, perhaps this can be done successfully. I don't imagine the emo princess being able to control a burst of that much chakra at once, not enough to maintain his genjutsu.

I think the emo princess' real trump card will still be sussanoo, and that I don't see a way of naruto getting around. so far it has seemed like nothing can penetrate it to get to sasuke, and if EMS means he can maintain it indefinitely, then naruto wouldn't be able to beat him on endurance alone with it.

I can imagine Naruto evading the sussanoo attacks, but not penetrating it to get to sasuke.

So, while it pains me to say it.... I think the Emo Princess wins in a 3rd showdown....

Somebody teach naruto some techniques to get around this problem... PLEASE!!!

I like ur post, about time someone on this thread had something good to say lol

I totally agree with u that naruto always had more chakara then sasuke for the reasons u stated.. because naruto now has full control over the nine tails, normal genjutsu shouldn't work on him..remember when sasuke fought killer bee and cast a genjutsu on him? the 8 tails inside broke the jutsu so therefore the 9 tails will be able to do the same thing..

Now as for sasuke's tsukuyomi, its currently not as strong as itachi's verson, but that doesn't mean naruto will be able to break it as easily..due to the nature of tuskuyomi, "It is said only a natural born member of the Uchiha Clan can overcome the illusion. To counter the technique, however, Mangekyou is not required. A highly trained normal Sharingan user can break the illusion". Because naruto isn't a uchiha nor does he have the sharigan breaking tsukuyomi will be hard, but considering he now has sage chakara n full kyuubi chakara maybe it will aid in him breaking the jutsu..Also Im sure Itachi gave naruto some of his powers so when sasuke uses his sharigan on naruto, Itachi will appear and talk to sasuke. (thats my opinion).

As for sasuke's Susanoo, we can't forget that susanoo sword can seal anything it touches. This will be a major task for naruto..If naruto gets hit by that sword hes iin trouble..But to aid him in this, he will have the speed of fully controlling the kyuubi and kyuubi mode (considering if naruto can merge kyuubi chakara into his kyuubi mode) thus making it hard for susanoo to hit him.

Also to add on naruto's power, I want to say he can now merge with the toads because the negative chakara of the kyuubi's isn't influencing naruto anymore..thus making naruto even alot stronger..im sure we didn't forget the super genjutsu ma toad and pa toad cast on pain during jiraiya's fight? its a genjutsu that effects the user by sound meaning sasuke could be in big trouble if they fought on one on one..

Im sorry but if u think naruto is guna be a push over during the next fight ur dead wrong..sasuke will eventually run out of chakara before naruto.

I dont think naruto will use his wind shuriken on sasuke because he doesn't want to kill the fag:flaw:

 

[mjtuvok]

I definitely agree with the chakra part. But I think that naruto's a pretty long way from learning to use another nature manip. He couldn't even do his affinity properly, needing an extra clone for that too.

The Uzumaki seals that he can learn are, imo, either completely lost, or within anyone's reach. He won't find them unless a live person gives them to him. He's not even close to his father's genius.

Agree with both your comments above however I would add as part of his development with the kyuubi's chakra he may learn more about how chakra works and I believe it will allow him to eventually be able to mold charkra with only one hand like Jariya did. Remember the primary reason he could not do it with one hand had to do with the conflicting nature of his charkra and the fox's sealed within him (or something like that). Recall the first time he was learning to walk on water and Jariya did something with his seal that helped him remove the conflict....at least part of it. After that he taught him the summoning jutsu. (at least that how I think it happened...couldnt find the chapter.)

anyway...my point is that with the removal of the seal and with his mature understanding of chakra etc.. he is gaining while training IN " Fox Mode" it is quite easy to believe that now he MIGHT be able to create rasengen with one hand. If so think what that would mean for his shadow clones....also you will recall that in his mind while beating the crap outta the fox he was able to do Rasengen with out clones (specifically while in sage mode he did "SAGE ART NONSTOP-GARGANTUAN RASENGAN BARRAGE)CHPT 499 PG 7, 8 .... so I think its just a matter of time.

PS ON PAGE 6 HE WAS NOT IN SAGE MODE AND ACTUALLY DID USE CLONES TO CREATE THE FIRST RASENGAN ATTACK.

 

[zapp42823]

hey! do not compare naruto to sasuke or his father about genius or whatever, naruto has his own strategy and way of a ninja... a way of gathering friends not to gather enemy... he is not fighting for his own clan like sasuke, he is not fighting only for his country (konoha) like his father, he fight for the whole ninja world for peace... that is a real genius....

 

[Animeisalive]

Sasuke say "i want those eyes" it doesn't mean he has now the EMS coz no where in the manga indicates that he has EMS.

u dont remember sasuke asking madara for itachis eyes? madara implanted them already and sasuke stated that he felt itachis power, if that isnt EMS then what is it? it has to b something powerful

manga 488 page 17 dude, read it

 

[incme2002]

hey! do not compare naruto to sasuke or his father about genius or whatever, naruto has his own strategy and way of a ninja... a way of gathering friends not to gather enemy... he is not fighting for his own clan like sasuke, he is not fighting only for his country (konoha) like his father, he fight for the whole ninja world for peace... that is a real genius....

I totally agree with you.. Brilliant idea..

 

[Lui_Khang]

hm ive said it before naruto learning new justsu is out of the question and as for the clones the arent much use i meen besides helping with rasengon and when they get hit exsplodeing is all they do and sasuke can see the real one so i wont make a differnce in their fight wich i would love if its long cause i wanna see lots of justu and mix of eyes and narutos fox

also rember naruto has a tec that itachi gave him. wich would be awsome if itachi comes up kinda like the fourth and talks to sasuke just like the fourth so who knows but i cant wait to see

you r wrong sasuke sharingan cant see through the shadow clone cause they r real figure w chakra so no way to distinguish among them which is real unless u hit em

 

[danivass]

As for sasuke's Susanoo, we can't forget that susanoo sword can seal anything it touches. This will be a major task for naruto..If naruto gets hit by that sword hes iin trouble..But to aid him in this, he will have the speed of fully controlling the kyuubi and kyuubi mode (considering if naruto can merge kyuubi chakara into his kyuubi mode) thus making it hard for susanoo to hit him.

Sasuke doesn't have the Totsuka sword or Yata no kagami shield, those were items added by Itachi to his own Susanoo, and Sasuke's version had a crossbow if I'm not mistaken.

Agree with both your comments above however I would add as part of his development with the kyuubi's chakra he may learn more about how chakra works and I believe it will allow him to eventually be able to mold charkra with only one hand like Jariya did. Remember the primary reason he could not do it with one hand had to do with the conflicting nature of his charkra and the fox's sealed within him (or something like that). Recall the first time he was learning to walk on water and Jariya did something with his seal that helped him remove the conflict....at least part of it. After that he taught him the summoning jutsu. (at least that how I think it happened...couldnt find the chapter.)

anyway...my point is that with the removal of the seal and with his mature understanding of chakra etc.. he is gaining while training IN " Fox Mode" it is quite easy to believe that now he MIGHT be able to create rasengen with one hand. If so think what that would mean for his shadow clones....also you will recall that in his mind while beating the crap outta the fox he was able to do Rasengen with out clones (specifically while in sage mode he did "SAGE ART NONSTOP-GARGANTUAN RASENGAN BARRAGE)CHPT 499 PG 7, 8 .... so I think its just a matter of time.

PS ON PAGE 6 HE WAS NOT IN SAGE MODE AND ACTUALLY DID USE CLONES TO CREATE THE FIRST RASENGAN ATTACK.

Yes, he might, but I don't think Alkad was talking about that.

I definitely agree with the chakra part. But I think that naruto's a pretty long way from learning to use another nature manip. He couldn't even do his affinity properly, needing an extra clone for that too.

The Uzumaki seals that he can learn are, imo, either completely lost, or within anyone's reach. He won't find them unless a live person gives them to him. He's not even close to his father's genius.

Naruto perfectly mastered his wind affinity, remember him splitting the waterfall? The problem is that he could not concentrate on both spacial and nature chakra transformation at the same time so that is why he needs an extra clone - to split up those two tasks between himself and the clone.

you r wrong sasuke sharingan cant see through the shadow clone cause they r real figure w chakra so no way to distinguish among them which is real unless u hit em

Correct, you took the words right from under my fingers lol xd

 

[~Cross Marian~]

Next chapter will be really awesome!

 

[zapp42823]

on the sasuke vs naruto topic:

I wonder, I'll give it to the emo princess, he has a wider range of techniques than naruto. but I'll flatly disagree with anyone who says they're even for chakra. Naruto has always had more chakra than sasuke, even before using the fox. This stands to reason because apparently if I understood yamato correctly, naruto's chakra has been holding the kyuubi's in check his whole life. So to me it seems like naruto's chakra has always been training since the day he was born, far more so than other shinobi's.

Add to that sage, and now controlled fox chakra, and no, even with a power boost from itachi's eyes, Sasuke doesn't have nearly as much chakra as naruto.

However, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, sheer chakra alone doesn't win fights. Sasuke has beaten him before even though naruto had more chakra.

second time they stalemated, though Sasuke was weakened, and naruto was poisoned.

on the one hand, I want to say naruto's attacks are too limited, and too predictable, even if they are powerful. And the emo princess has more jutsus he can call upon. So the advantage goes to the emo princess. No matter how loath I am to admit that.

yet I think naruto may be safe from genjutsu. speaking of tsukiyomi(sp?): Normally there are 2 ways out of a genjutsu, however tsukiyomi eliminates 1 of them because it happens instnatly, so the only other way is to disrupt your chakra flow to over power the genjutsu's hold. with sage or kyuubi chakra, or both, perhaps this can be done successfully. I don't imagine the emo princess being able to control a burst of that much chakra at once, not enough to maintain his genjutsu.

I think the emo princess' real trump card will still be sussanoo, and that I don't see a way of naruto getting around. so far it has seemed like nothing can penetrate it to get to sasuke, and if EMS means he can maintain it indefinitely, then naruto wouldn't be able to beat him on endurance alone with it.

I can imagine Naruto evading the sussanoo attacks, but not penetrating it to get to sasuke.

So, while it pains me to say it.... I think the Emo Princess wins in a 3rd showdown....

Somebody teach naruto some techniques to get around this problem... PLEASE!!!

i want you to know that sasuke does'nt beat naruto even ones. if you are thinking naruto beats in the valley of the end you are wrong, because sasuke knows he got the first deadly hit on his head protector. naruto intended to hit that protector instead of his neck... you may ask sasuke for that nisan. the second time they fought sasuke again feel the power of naruto thats why he agreed to go with madara to take itachi's eye... you may ask sasuke again for that nisan... i want you to think if sasuke will win for the third time, now that naruto have the power of the nine tails.... kukuku... you may ask kishi for that...

 

[DeathReaperSeal]

I like ur post, about time someone on this thread had something good to say lol

I totally agree with u that naruto always had more chakara then sasuke for the reasons u stated.. because naruto now has full control over the nine tails, normal genjutsu shouldn't work on him..remember when sasuke fought killer bee and cast a genjutsu on him? the 8 tails inside broke the jutsu so therefore the 9 tails will be able to do the same thing..

Now as for sasuke's tsukuyomi, its currently not as strong as itachi's verson, but that doesn't mean naruto will be able to break it as easily..due to the nature of tuskuyomi, "It is said only a natural born member of the Uchiha Clan can overcome the illusion. To counter the technique, however, Mangekyou is not required. A highly trained normal Sharingan user can break the illusion". Because naruto isn't a uchiha nor does he have the sharigan breaking tsukuyomi will be hard, but considering he now has sage chakara n full kyuubi chakara maybe it will aid in him breaking the jutsu..Also Im sure Itachi gave naruto some of his powers so when sasuke uses his sharigan on naruto, Itachi will appear and talk to sasuke. (thats my opinion).

As for sasuke's Susanoo, we can't forget that susanoo sword can seal anything it touches. This will be a major task for naruto..If naruto gets hit by that sword hes iin trouble..But to aid him in this, he will have the speed of fully controlling the kyuubi and kyuubi mode (considering if naruto can merge kyuubi chakara into his kyuubi mode) thus making it hard for susanoo to hit him.

Also to add on naruto's power, I want to say he can now merge with the toads because the negative chakara of the kyuubi's isn't influencing naruto anymore..thus making naruto even alot stronger..im sure we didn't forget the super genjutsu ma toad and pa toad cast on pain during jiraiya's fight? its a genjutsu that effects the user by sound meaning sasuke could be in big trouble if they fought on one on one..

Im sorry but if u think naruto is guna be a push over during the next fight ur dead wrong..sasuke will eventually run out of chakara before naruto.

I dont think naruto will use his wind shuriken on sasuke because he doesn't want to kill the fag:flaw:

2things:
1: naruto's speed is dramaticly increased(he can body flicker)
2: Sasuke doesn't have the sword

 

[warriorex222]

somehow i don't even think that itachi has given anything at all to naruto, and if he has, it doesn't have to be some kind of a super killer move.

 

[Yukimaru Yoshi]

Sasuke doesn't have the Totsuka sword or Yata no kagami shield, those were items added by Itachi to his own Susanoo, and Sasuke's version had a crossbow if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, he might, but I don't think Alkad was talking about that.

Naruto perfectly mastered his wind affinity, remember him splitting the waterfall? The problem is that he could not concentrate on both spacial and nature chakra transformation at the same time so that is why he needs an extra clone - to split up those two tasks between himself and the clone.

Correct, you took the words right from under my fingers lol xd

Sasuke's verision of susanoo was incomplete, when he was fighting kakashi the full version of susanoo started to take form, but because of overusages of his eyes, susanoo vanished.

 

[Yukimaru Yoshi]

2things:
1: naruto's speed is dramaticly increased(he can body flicker)
2: Sasuke doesn't have the sword

1. I already stated naruto speed will make it hard for sasuke susanno to get a hit on him.

2. Sasuke's verison of susanoo is still incomplete, but at the current moment he doesn't have the sword of totsuka or the mirror of yata, but because his form of susanoo is still manifesting he will probably gain those ability..

 

[Alkad]

It was mentioned that the Uzumaki's that lived through the destruction of the whirlpool country spread throughout the world and that they have unnaturally long lives. It is not too far of a leap to think that Naruto will go looking for his families country and in the process find another Uzumaki to teach him. I personally think that he will gain his second affinity for water on that trip as well as some seals.

I've been wanting this to happen for a while. But I said that he wouldn't learn advanced sealing techniques on his own... not soon anyway. Learning from an uzumaki still counts as learning from someone else

Also, affinity is "the nature into which a person manipulates chakra most easily". The rest are just practice and insight. Wind was his affinity and so he started with it, but only because it was easier. Considering his ancestry, water might easier than earth/fire/lightning. And that puts a stop to all of sasuke's nature manipulations (fire & lightning)

The reason I think that he will end up with Air, Water, Sage Mode and 9 tails chakra is that he will eventually have to fight Sasuke with Rinnegan. I made this prediction a while back but I still think that in the end Naruto will get the Rinnegan from Sasuke in order to save the world from the 10 tails reborn through Madara. I know that is a long way off if it happens at all but for now I think Naruto's next step is to go looking for the whirlpool country and find a new Sensei to teach him his second affinity and Uzumaki seal tech. A good reason for him to leave that island and find a new place to hide out will most likely be either crushed or solidified this week when we find out if that shark with the scroll got away (which it definitely looked to have.) In either case I still think that Naruto will end up in the whirpool country one way or another and there he will find his next Sensei, an Uzumaki one.

As always my predictions are nothing more than predictions so don't get your panties in a bunch if I don't agree with something you think will happen. In the end only Kishi really knows.

1. sasuke shouldn't get the rinnegan. Madara knows better than giving it to him. Plus, madara has a free eye socket that he never uses.

2. the whirlpool country doesn't exist. Look at the map in

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and notice how that land is now called the "Water Country" (from any current map). Some conquests seem to have happened in the last 20 years or so.

3. yes, he definitely has to leave this island.

Agree with both your comments above however I would add as part of his development with the kyuubi's chakra he may learn more about how chakra works and I believe it will allow him to eventually be able to mold charkra with only one hand like Jariya did. Remember the primary reason he could not do it with one hand had to do with the conflicting nature of his charkra and the fox's sealed within him (or something like that). Recall the first time he was learning to walk on water and Jariya did something with his seal that helped him remove the conflict....at least part of it. After that he taught him the summoning jutsu. (at least that how I think it happened...couldnt find the chapter.)

anyway...my point is that with the removal of the seal and with his mature understanding of chakra etc.. he is gaining while training IN " Fox Mode" it is quite easy to believe that now he MIGHT be able to create rasengen with one hand. If so think what that would mean for his shadow clones....also you will recall that in his mind while beating the crap outta the fox he was able to do Rasengen with out clones (specifically while in sage mode he did "SAGE ART NONSTOP-GARGANTUAN RASENGAN BARRAGE)CHPT 499 PG 7, 8 .... so I think its just a matter of time.

PS ON PAGE 6 HE WAS NOT IN SAGE MODE AND ACTUALLY DID USE CLONES TO CREATE THE FIRST RASENGAN ATTACK.

The fox's chakra was the primary reason for lack of control. But not the only one. He isn't that good at molding chakra regardless of the kyubi. I was more referring to FRS, which he still needs to perfect. Regaining the chakra control only by setting the kyubi aside won't do it because minato couldn't. Minato was better than him. FRS with one hand will take a while.

I'm not that bothered that much with rasengan. In the prev comments I was talking about nature manip I suppose.

Naruto perfectly mastered his wind affinity, remember him splitting the waterfall? The problem is that he could not concentrate on both spacial and nature chakra transformation at the same time so that is why he needs an extra clone - to split up those two tasks between himself and the clone.

no. not being able to do it while doing something else is not "mastering it". but I didn't want to mean it different from what it sounded like in the previous comment.