[Predictions] Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

How do you know Tobi is Madara from that chapter? Kisame never saw Madara so he has no idea what Madara looks like. Hes just taking Tobi's word for it that hes Madara. Tobi could easily be lying.

Actually we know that Madara showed his face twice to Kisame at first the first time he showed himself as the controller of the 4th Mizukage we were going to see Madara's face that Kisame saw but it was cut off by Kisame biting his own tongue. And the second time when we got to know that Tobi is Uchiha Madara and he revealed himself to Kisame that he was deceiving the entire Akatsuki the whole time except Pain and Konan. So Kisame saw Madara's face twice and from what it looks like now I am almost quite certain that Tobi is Madara. But then again you can talk about the slight chance that he might not be Madara yes so to be 100% sure we have to wait for the day when Tobi removes his mask. But after reading this chapter I am almost sure that Tobi is Madara.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

A very exciting chapter. So this chapter has confirmed that Madara was indeed manipulating the Fourth Mizukage, Yagura. It seems that Madara has the ability to take away peoples' free will, similar to a technique Shisui possessed that Ao mentioned during the Five Kage summit.

What's interesting though, when Madara "acts" as Tobi, he's always wearing a mask, and his hair is cut short instead of the style we see when we fought Hashirama or met Itachi, or even now controlling the Mizukage. But as himself, Madara did not appear to be wearing a mask when showing his face to Kisame, and his hair is long and flows down past his shoulders, but for some reason in chapter 404, Madara says he deceived Kisame, and shows him his face again. Could Tobi and Madara be two different people? While I don't think it's likely, it could be possible.

And as for Kisame, it seems he's broken free from his shackles, but I don't think he has very long to live, but of course I could be wrong. I think that last act was highly symbolic of the fact that Kisame has broken free from the chains of lies in this world, and has finally met the truth that Madara has given him.

 

[DaiDai]

Insane chapter. Guy is pure beastliness lol.

Good to have seen kisame and his former self. and him biting his tongue to break out of the interrogation tech was beastly as well. Cant wait for next week.

Madara madara, when will he show himself. I say madara cuz we have actually seen madaras hair before unlike this tobi character that he has posed as, and that shadowy figure had madaras hair so

 

[Scary Yamato]

A very exciting chapter. So this chapter has confirmed that Madara was indeed manipulating the Fourth Mizukage, Yagura. It seems that Madara has the ability to take away peoples' free will, similar to a technique Shisui possessed that Ao mentioned during the Five Kage summit.

What's interesting though, when Madara "acts" as Tobi, he's always wearing a mask, and his hair is cut short instead of the style we see when we fought Hashirama or met Itachi, or even now controlling the Mizukage. But as himself, Madara did not appear to be wearing a mask when showing his face to Kisame, and his hair is long and flows down past his shoulders, but for some reason in chapter 404, Madara says he deceived Kisame, and shows him his face again. Could Tobi and Madara be two different people? While I don't think it's likely, but it could be possible.

And as for Kisame, it seems he's broken free from his shackles, but I don't think he has very long to live, but of course I could be wrong. I think that last act was highly symbolic of the fact that Kisame has broken free from the chains of lies in this world, and has finally met the truth that Madara has given him.

I think he was able to control the 4th mizukage because of the tailed beast within (If I read it correctly)

 

[silenceofthelambs]

I think he was able to control the 4th mizukage because of the tailed beast within (If I read it correctly)

That could be possible, but for all we know Madara can only control the Nine-Tailed Fox with his Sharingan. Perhaps he has an ability to control all tailed beasts, we'll just have to wait and see. The more we learn about Madara, the more mysterious he becomes.

 

[DaiDai]

A very exciting chapter. So this chapter has confirmed that Madara was indeed manipulating the Fourth Mizukage, Yagura. It seems that Madara has the ability to take away peoples' free will, similar to a technique Shisui possessed that Ao mentioned during the Five Kage summit.

What's interesting though, when Madara "acts" as Tobi, he's always wearing a mask, and his hair is cut short instead of the style we see when we fought Hashirama or met Itachi, or even now controlling the Mizukage. But as himself, Madara did not appear to be wearing a mask when showing his face to Kisame, and his hair is long and flows down past his shoulders, but for some reason in chapter 404, Madara says he deceived Kisame, and shows him his face again. Could Tobi and Madara be two different people? While I don't think it's likely, but it could be possible.

And as for Kisame, it seems he's broken free from his shackles, but I don't think he has very long to live, but of course I could be wrong. I think that last act was highly symbolic of the fact that Kisame has broken free from the chains of lies in this world, and has finally met the truth that Madara has given him.

i think when he says he deceived him was because he was posing as Tobi all that time while in akatski and did not tell kisame or the others that he was madara, so that is why he shows his face and kisame recognizes the face from their previous meeting which we now just saw. Thats my guess not sure thou

 

[Shoton]

awesome chapter. Ive always wanted to see more of Gai, this is seriously a proof that Gai is stronger than what he first seemed like. We finally got to see a known characters real power. This really higthens my thoughts of other characters showing more of what they can, especially Tsunade. Hope we sometime soon get to see her "Slug mode" or something.

No clue what Kisame is up to now.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

i think when he says he deceived him was because he was posing as Tobi all that time and did not tell kisame or the others that he was madara, so that is why he shows his face and kisame recognizes the face from their previous meeting which we now just saw. Thats my guess not sure thou

There would be no deception. If we take these events in chronological order, Madara met Kisame before Akatsuki was created, but even then we do not have much proof of this claim, so that statement in itself is dubious. So if Madara already displayed his true identity to Kisame before creating the organization Akatsuki, Kisame would already know who he is, so it wouldn't matter whether Madara posed as Tobi, because Kisame already saw who he is in the past. There's still much to learn about all this.

 

[DaiDai]

There would be no deception. If we take these events in chronological order, Madara met Kisame before Akatsuki was created, but even then we do not have much proof of this claim, so that statement in itself is dubious. So if Madara already displayed his true identity to Kisame before creating the organization Akatsuki, Kisame would already know who he is, so it wouldn't matter whether Madara posed as Tobi, because Kisame already saw who he is in the past. There's still much to learn about all this.

i see what you saying, all this madara/tobi bs is confusing lol

 

[Typhon]

Actually we know that Madara showed his face twice to Kisame at first the first time he showed himself as the controller of the 4th Mizukage we were going to see Madara's face that Kisame saw but it was cut off by Kisame biting his own tongue. And the second time when we got to know that Tobi is Uchiha Madara and he revealed himself to Kisame that he was deceiving the entire Akatsuki the whole time except Pain and Konan. So Kisame saw Madara's face twice and from what it looks like now I am almost quite certain that Tobi is Madara. But then again you can talk about the slight chance that he might not be Madara yes so to be 100% sure we have to wait for the day when Tobi removes his mask. But after reading this chapter I am almost sure that Tobi is Madara.

No, we know TOBI showed his face to Kisame. When Tobi claimed to be Madara Kisame said he didn't believe him and asked that he show his face. At this point Kisame bites his tongue to prevent the interrogator from seeing any further. Kisame did this to hide the identity of Tobi. Why would he need to do this if Tobi was just Madara? Tobi already told all of the Kages that he was Madara, so thats no longer a secret that would need to be kept. Clearly its not as simple as Tobi=Madara.

People are trying to use this chapter as proof that Tobi is Madara, when in fact its quite the opposite.

 

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

Kisame was killed by such a lame character...

He maybe strong, but nevertheless it's sooo lame of him to babble about some stupid youth and mentioning it in any situation in a very irrelevant way

 

[minatoisagod]

nice chapter i hope kisame doesn't die. Too many villians have died already need more for the war but if he does i hope he goes out with a bang.
and what the hell is up with madara i mean damn long hair short hair mask no mask, dumb plan or he just wants power or piece damn. well i like the mystery still.
naruto now needs to step up more now since One Piece will be taking a long ass break so Kishi can be more epic now

 

[Zesh]

Gia all the ducking way! loved that chapter but i really want to see kisame finally die.

 

[earac2004]

Just as thought, I guess that we all won't know the true identity of Tobi/Madara!! It might be the same case as we've never known Kakashi's face as well. Perhaps the author will show it until the end of Naruto story...

 

[Akatsuki leader]

What if:

Naruto is tobi

J-man is alive and he is tobi...

kakashi is tobi....

Sasuke father is tobi??

OLD MAN UZUMAKI is tobi????

2nd hokage is tobi?????

1st hokage is tobi????

 

[Konoha's Yellow Flash]

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KAME-HAME-HA!!

 

[kisamexRocks]

There would be no deception. If we take these events in chronological order, Madara met Kisame before Akatsuki was created, but even then we do not have much proof of this claim, so that statement in itself is dubious. So if Madara already displayed his true identity to Kisame before creating the organization Akatsuki, Kisame would already know who he is, so it wouldn't matter whether Madara posed as Tobi, because Kisame already saw who he is in the past. There's still much to learn about all this.

Madara never fully revealed himself to Kisame when he was in Akatsuki, Kisame was talked to by Madara way before the organizations tarted, notice the hair cut. Madara found pain, and used him to create the organization and he was the leader so everyone in Akatsuki except for Pain/Konan, Itachi and Zetsu knew that Madara was the one behind the whole thing, then later Kisame found out, everyone else, Sasori, Deidara, Hidan, Kakuzu, didn't know Madara was behind everything. So the chronological order is actually fitting good.

 

[Crutch Kaguya]

Guy didn't unleash the eight gate after all xd Afternoon Tiger was still a beast attack. Kisame pasts is opening up more mysteries about Uchiha Madara, don't know when they will be answered. Haven't heard much from Sasuke and Madara's eye transplant, so I'm waiting to see what happened. The plot is getting interesting, wonder how Kishi will wrap it up.

 

[Michael92]

Something I`m a little confused about. Did he Bite off his tongue or did he just bite it?

Because there is a hugh different in that fact. If he bit it off then he won`t be able to talk anymore(at least not very well), but if he just bit his own tongue so that he started bleeding, then it`s just a wound that can be healed over time.

Not that important, but thought i would mention it anyway

 

[gtgoku]

Forgot to mention that this chapter proves that databooks are crap... According to the Databooks, Kisame>Gai... I could use one of my old statements to back this up, but I won't.