[Predictions] Naruto Manga 505 Discussion and 506 Predictions

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Yes Itachi planned to die by Sasuke's hands but he could have killed Madara knowing that Madara might do something that will bring chaos in the world. Also Sasuke being one of the few Uchihas remaining is also a factor. And how would Itachi hoped that Naruto and Sasuke will beat Madara. First of all at that time I don't think Itachi knew Naruto at all and secondly we are talking about Madara. Itachi wouldn't have just hope that Sasuke will be able to beat the strongest Uchiha in the history. He must have thought of killing Madara but knew that Madara was stronger than him. And then when Itachi learned that Naruto was Sauske's friend he gave Naruto some power thinking if Sasuke becomes evil. And Itachi implanted Amaterasu on Saseke so that when Madara's Sharingan sees Sasuke Amaterasu will be activated automatically and Madara will be caught off guard. So if Itachi was so concerned about Madara then why didn't he kill Madara so that after Itachi died then according to his plan Sasuke would have been relieved by gaining his revenge and then he would have become a good guy but it didn't happen. So its basically obvious that Itachi knew that he couldn't beat Madara. And about Minato vs Itachi we haven't seen them fight so it very argumentative but knowing that Minato was at least able to surprise Madara off guard and handle Madara's space time techs I think Minato is a bit stronger than Itachi again its my point of view. Also Itachi said that Madara was his mentor and Madara knows almost every MS techs so I don't think that Itachi could have done anything to Madara. So its obvious that just wasn't stronger that Madara. I am also a Itachi fan but its a simple fact which I had to admit.
Yeah but as mentioned, it could be that Itachi did not desire to kill him. Itachi did not know about Madara's plans. I mean that he didn't have a reason to kill him. Itachi said himself that Madara is not his old self anymore (propably meaning that during his fight with Hashirama he lost his EMS power). I mean what can Madara do to Itachi right now?
 

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Yeah but as mentioned, it could be that Itachi did not desire to kill him. Itachi did not know about Madara's plans. I mean that he didn't have a reason to kill him. Itachi said himself that Madara is not his old self anymore (propably meaning that during his fight with Hashirama he lost his EMS power). I mean what can Madara do to Itachi right now?
Why wouldn't Itachi not desire to kill Madara who was a constant threat to Konoha, a threat to world peace and much importantly a threat to Sasuke mainly letting Sasuke know about the truth of Itachi and convincing Sasuke to take revenge which Itachi never wanted. Just think Itachi's Tsukyoumi won't affect Madara, Amaterasu won't do any good either. And considering the fact that Madara himself had MS he knows the weakness of Susanoo. Remember dude Madara was Itachi's mentor Itachi said it himself and Itachi had all the MS powers and Madara seems to know all about it plus he knows about more such as his own space time techs and Izanagi. If Itachi planted Amaterasu on Sasuke he knew that Madara might try to convince Sasuke after Itachi dies. So if Itachi had the power he would have killed Madara thus making sure that after he died Sasuke would lead the life Itachi wanted him to have. So its quite simple Itachi wasn't stronger than Madara yes we haven't seen them fighting but seeing some points clears it all. I will say it again Itachi knew that Madara might try to convince Sasuke to take part in his plans so why didn't Itachi didn't do anything about Madara. The reason is he couldn't so for preventing Madara approaching Sasuke he implanted Amaterasu. But Itachi also thought what if this fails and that's why Itachi gave Naruto some powers which will help him bring Sasuke to light from the darkness.
 
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So if Itachi had the power he would have killed Madara thus making sure that after he died Sasuke would lead the life Itachi wanted him to have. So its quite simple Itachi wasn't stronger than Madara yes we haven't seen them fighting but seeing some points clears it all.
I wouldn't say that Madara is stronger than Itachi. Actually they still fight... Itachi's gift you remember?
Itachi thought a lot more ahead than Madara and I think that will definitely lead to Madara's downfall. Honestly I think that Itachi implanted Amaterasu inside of Sasuke just to give it a try. Why not? Maybe his most sinister foe would die in an instant. Maybe not. That's the reason why he gave that gift to Naruto. To back up his plan with extra reinforcements. Itachi is one of the smartest characters in the manga and has earned my respect. (Even though he annihilated his whole clan but well... everybody makes mistakes ^^)
 

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I wouldn't say that Madara is stronger than Itachi. Actually they still fight... Itachi's gift you remember?
Itachi thought a lot more ahead than Madara and I think that will definitely lead to Madara's downfall. Honestly I think that Itachi implanted Amaterasu inside of Sasuke just to give it a try. Why not? Maybe his most sinister foe would die in an instant. Maybe not. That's the reason why he gave that gift to Naruto. To back up his plan with extra reinforcements. Itachi is one of the smartest characters in the manga and has earned my respect. (Even though he annihilated his whole clan but well... everybody makes mistakes ^^)
This is so easy who is stronger
1.Rinengan the most powerful eye so PAIn is the strongest charachter in naruto world.... (naruto cheated to defeat him bcz he is the hero he cant die thats why win.....)
2.Madara is stronger than itachi
3. Sasuke is stronger now than itachi and madara...bcz he is young ems uchiha warrior...
4. itachi nothing just a vessel... he waited so long he wanted die at sasuke hand bcz he killed the uchihas.. SASUKE is cant defeat him bcz hes not stronger without ems.... itachi have ms thats why stronger..... when fighted each other.....
5 JUST think SASUKE normal Sharingan VS itachi normal sharingan SASUKE is much stroner sasuke is fighted itachi with normal sharingan and he can repel itachi MS and not just ms itachi attack too when itachi is full chakra........ SASUKE is the most powerful uchiha in the naruto world this is obviously and easy he is the 2nd HERO... and naruto is the powerful senju in the world... itachi is just a... ThIS iS the truth 1.pain 2. naruto 3rd sasuke 4 madara 5 itachi....
madara never feard from itachi just madara not want to show his true powaa..........
 
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1.Rinengan the most powerful eye so PAIn is the strongest charachter in naruto world.... (naruto cheated to defeat him bcz he is the hero he cant die thats why win.....)
From what we have learnd so far, I agree with you that Rinengan is the most powerful eye, but that dosen`t make Pain the strongest character. Even though the eyes give him the opportunity to be the strongest dosen`t mean he reached the potential. And to say that NAruto cheated is just stupid, information is not cheating. It is a importent job for a ninja in Naruto world to collect information about their enemies. eventhough Pain/Nagato had used alot of his chakra, dosen`t mean Naruto cheated, it just states that Nagato was to confident in his one power, and really belived he was a GOD.

2.Madara is stronger than itachi
I belive Madara was stonger when he was at his prime, but taking Madaras current state at the time into consideration I belive he feared Itachi. He may be stronger but the utcome of the fight could ruin Madaras plan. This is not to start a big argument but its a bold statement to say he is stronger when we don`t know anything about him, the only thing we know is his space-time justu. We don`t even know if he is Madara or if he is Madara in a other body. Or if he posses the same power he did when he fouth the first!

3. Sasuke is stronger now than itachi and madara...bcz he is young ems uchiha warrior
eventhough he posseses ems dosen`t mean he is stronger then Madara, power isen`t everything. If Madara is Madara he has experianse that is enormes, and he has the space-time justu. If he is Madara he is the first one to get EMS, he would be strong.

5 JUST think SASUKE normal Sharingan VS itachi normal sharingan SASUKE is much stroner sasuke is fighted itachi with normal sharingan and he can repel itachi MS and not just ms itachi attack too when itachi is full chakra........ SASUKE is the most powerful uchiha in the naruto world this is obviously and easy he is the 2nd HERO... and naruto is the powerful senju in the world... itachi is just a...
To say that Itachi lost to Sauskes sharingan is another statment I have to question, he lost because is was suppose to lose, everything he did was according to plan. He fouth Sauske at a weak state, if I remember correctly it was said that Itachi hold himself alive on madication, just to do what he did when saukse came. He was suppose to lose.

ThIS iS the truth 1.pain 2. naruto 3rd sasuke 4 madara 5 itachi....
madara never feard from itachi just madara not want to show his true powaa..........
First of all pain is dead, so he should be removed from the list. and as I said before, I don`t think we can make this list before we know what madara is or can do!
 
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OKOK 1 itachi lives inside sasuke! the gift that itachi gave naruto was a special artifact that will show sasuke he still has good in him! the reason i say itachi is in sasuke was bcuz when he saw orochimaru come out of sasuke he smiled and at the end there was a white snake being burned by amaterasu !! and at the end itachi tapped sasukes head, therefore putting his soul or power inside sasuke, and he made the fight look real by using susano and trying 2 take sasukes eyes! he new that zetsu was watching! so he did all that to convince pain that he died when hes really inside sasuke! he really wants sasuke to team up with naruto and kill madara! madara was wrong when he said he was one step ahead of itachi itachi was instead he new that wouldnt work thats y he did all of that!! im a huge madara fan but he needs to go down so i want itachi to be a hero and sasuke to be heros!!! o and orochimaru is definetley coming back hes gonna take over kabuto and get killed by either naruto or sasuke!!! ( this theory is not mine this is dragon lords i think! i take no credit at all!!)
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p.s. itachi is not stronger than madara thats he had to go through extreme measures so he can help naruto and sasuke kill madara!!!!

again this is not my theory this is dragon lords i think!!!

u can check out dragon lords threads for the entire theory this is only a summary its a really goood one and it explains a whole lot!!
 
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I dont think that Sasuke is going to be in a good side.. Sasuke must DIE for the sake of the Manga. It will ruin the story f Sasuke will turning good again, team up with Naruto, return to Konoha and live happily ever after. If I remember during the interview of Kishi he quoted " Madara is not the last villain of the story" so therefore the last villain either Kabuto or Sasuke. Prediction in the future: Naruto will be the host of BIJU/10 tails or Annihilate all the tailed beasts.
 

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You need to check out the pic in color of Naruto SO6P. Its wicked. I made it as my desktop background. I found this pic that looks awesome on Google. I used "naruto sage of six paths" and on the 5th page is where I found it. You might like it. Got a moon background in the pic.
 

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Naruto hosting all the 10 tailed beast...That would be epic. He might just release them so the natural balance would be restored. The tailed beast were pretty much natural disasters. Kishi has held my interest the entire series.
 

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I wouldn't say that Madara is stronger than Itachi. Actually they still fight... Itachi's gift you remember?
Itachi thought a lot more ahead than Madara and I think that will definitely lead to Madara's downfall. Honestly I think that Itachi implanted Amaterasu inside of Sasuke just to give it a try. Why not? Maybe his most sinister foe would die in an instant. Maybe not. That's the reason why he gave that gift to Naruto. To back up his plan with extra reinforcements. Itachi is one of the smartest characters in the manga and has earned my respect. (Even though he annihilated his whole clan but well... everybody makes mistakes ^^)
Itachi gave Naruto that gift to save Sasuke from the darkness if Sasuke becomes evil not to defeat Madara. Again there is really no logical explanation why didn't Itachi didn't take out Madara who was a threat to world peace to Konoha and to Sasuke. Itachi knew that Madara might convince Sasuke to join forces which would ultimately ruin Itachi's plan so why didn't Itachi not do anything. The fact is he did to prevent such event from occurring. Firstly he gave Naruto the gift to save Sasuke from darkness if Sasuke becomes bad and secondly he implanted Amaterasu on Sasuke so if that Madara ever set his Sharingan on Sasuke to prove that he is an Uchiha Amaterasu would activate automatically. Itachi went for prevention only because he knew that he couldn't beat Madara.
 

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This is so easy who is stronger
1.Rinengan the most powerful eye so PAIn is the strongest charachter in naruto world.... (naruto cheated to defeat him bcz he is the hero he cant die thats why win.....)
2.Madara is stronger than itachi
3. Sasuke is stronger now than itachi and madara...bcz he is young ems uchiha warrior...
4. itachi nothing just a vessel... he waited so long he wanted die at sasuke hand bcz he killed the uchihas.. SASUKE is cant defeat him bcz hes not stronger without ems.... itachi have ms thats why stronger..... when fighted each other.....
5 JUST think SASUKE normal Sharingan VS itachi normal sharingan SASUKE is much stroner sasuke is fighted itachi with normal sharingan and he can repel itachi MS and not just ms itachi attack too when itachi is full chakra........ SASUKE is the most powerful uchiha in the naruto world this is obviously and easy he is the 2nd HERO... and naruto is the powerful senju in the world... itachi is just a... ThIS iS the truth 1.pain 2. naruto 3rd sasuke 4 madara 5 itachi....
madara never feard from itachi just madara not want to show his true powaa..........
1) I know that you don't like Naruto but I have to admit that Naruto wasn't really strong enough to beat Pain. I am a huge Naruto fan and even I have to admit that without the necessary information from Konoha and if God Real Pain had fight from the beginning Naruto would have lost. I wouldn't say that he cheated mainly because Nagato understood Naruto and then he changed. But now its a whole different story. May be just may be now Naruto will full control of the Kyuubi may be stronger than Pain. I still don't know about Sasuke mainly because EMS is strong but Rinnegan is the strongest.
2) and 3) are correct.
4) and 5) well you can't say that. Sasuke did break out the Tsukyomi with normal Sharingan true but remember Itachi was just faking it so most probably Itachi wasn't using his full powers. He was just showing Sasuke the powers of MS. And even with normal Sharingan Itachi was way too powerful he became the leader of ANBU at a very young age while Sasuke was still developing its really arguable. But you can't really compare with Sharingan vs Sharingan. You can compare with Sasuke vs Itachi. MS is just an weapon which Itachi had so he had the advantage but now yes Sasuke is powerful than him. Also I do think that Madara hasn't shown his true powers yet. And as for the rankings its most probably now 1) Naruto or Sasuke and the rest well don't know. But definitely Naruto and Sasuke will exceed all their predecessor but ultimately I think it will be Naruto will become the strongest may be even becoming stronger than the Sage of the Six Paths by becoming the Jichuuriki of the Bijuu or somehow becoming stronger than the S06P.
 

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if itachi have ems . he might be stronger than madara in his prime .bcz itachi is so strong with normal sharingan and itachi with ms , even madara didnt put hands on him .
 

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if itachi have ems . he might be stronger than madara in his prime .bcz itachi is so strong with normal sharingan and itachi with ms , even madara didnt put hands on him .
I don't think so. Remember Madara has only fought only when he needed. Once with the first it was the only time he showed some glimpses of his powers. Then when he encountered Naruto and co he just played with them same goes with the fight against Fu and Torune. Madara seems to only fight when necessary. So Madara knew that Itachi would never join him to fulfill his plan so Madara waited till Itachi fulfill his own plan. So Itachi died and then Madara was able to convince Sasuke so Madara killed two birds with one stone. Getting rid of one of his threats and making another stronger ally without even fighting. That my friend is smart:cool:
 

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Does anyone think that Naruto looks like the Sage of the Six Paths when in the Kyubi chakra. Like the horns on top of the head and or the necklace type thing around his neck??
 

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I don't think so. Remember Madara has only fought only when he needed. Once with the first it was the only time he showed some glimpses of his powers. Then when he encountered Naruto and co he just played with them same goes with the fight against Fu and Torune. Madara seems to only fight when necessary. So Madara knew that Itachi would never join him to fulfill his plan so Madara waited till Itachi fulfill his own plan. So Itachi died and then Madara was able to convince Sasuke so Madara killed two birds with one stone. Getting rid of one of his threats and making another stronger ally without even fighting. That my friend is smart:cool:
You're right. But the thing is, even when he fights, if he loses, somehow he wins as well. This might sound contradictory, but here's what I mean: for example, sixteen years ago, Madara extracted the fox from Kushina, unleashed it on Konoha, fought the Fourth Hokage, Minato, lost in their "battle of speed," as it is called, but what happened at the very end of things? Both Minato and Kushina, along with a good number of Konoha's ninja, lost their lives that night. I'd say Konoha took the bigger blow that night, but it's up for debate.

He somehow manages to remove the most powerful of enemies from the equation, even if it must take him a long time to do so. Another example - Itachi. He was the one who stood in his way when Madara tried to rekindle the flames of war, but he ended up dying, and it wasn't even at Madara's hand. Now he's using Sasuke to systematically eliminate any possible threat to Akatsuki, like Danzo.

While Madara claims to be nothing but an empty shell of his former self, it seems he has the psychological advantage of being able to pull some sensitive emotional strings against his enemies, and consequently using it to his advantage. My theory, which may not be true (of course), is that the First Hokage, who defeated Madara at the Valley of the End, was killed by Madara (disguised as a Kumogakure ninja, possibly) during the First Shinobi War, a way of getting even with his with the one person he admired, and "hated the most."

He only physically fights when he needs to, I agree, but I say that his power comes not from battling Fu and Torune, among other people, but that of his cunning planning. Even Danzo, who operates "underneath" Konoha without the Hokage's knowledge or permission, calls Madara a "sneaky bastard." That to me indicates Madara has a skill for manipulation unlike any other.
 

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You're right. But the thing is, even when he fights, if he loses, somehow he wins as well. This might sound contradictory, but here's what I mean: for example, sixteen years ago, Madara extracted the fox from Kushina, unleashed it on Konoha, fought the Fourth Hokage, Minato, lost in their "battle of speed," as it is called, but what happened at the very end of things? Both Minato and Kushina, along with a good number of Konoha's ninja, lost their lives that night. I'd say Konoha took the bigger blow that night, but it's up for debate.

He somehow manages to remove the most powerful of enemies from the equation, even if it must take him a long time to do so. Another example - Itachi. He was the one who stood in his way when Madara tried to rekindle the flames of war, but he ended up dying, and it wasn't even at Madara's hand. Now he's using Sasuke to systematically eliminate any possible threat to Akatsuki, like Danzo.

While Madara claims to be nothing but an empty shell of his former self, it seems he has the psychological advantage of being able to pull some sensitive emotional strings against his enemies, and consequently using it to his advantage. My theory, which may not be true (of course), is that the First Hokage, who defeated Madara at the Valley of the End, was killed by Madara (disguised as a Kumogakure ninja, possibly) during the First Shinobi War, a way of getting even with his with the one person he admired, and "hated the most."

He only physically fights when he needs to, I agree, but I say that his power comes not from battling Fu and Torune, among other people, but that of his cunning planning. Even Danzo, who operates "underneath" Konoha without the Hokage's knowledge or permission, calls Madara a "sneaky bastard." That to me indicates Madara has a skill for manipulation unlike any other.
That sounds right to be honest
 
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