[Predictions] Naruto Manga 479 Discussion and 480 Predictions
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yoshimitsu
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few of my assumptions were proven correct.
1) eyes = lives, but that was a given
2) possibly has more eyes (as karin suggests, and 10 as madara stated does not include shisui's)
3) danzou will very likely survive this confrontation
I believe #3 to be true because there's a panel where danzou thinks to himself "i should save energy in case madara plays dirty".
and thats when #2 comes into play, as karin hypothesizes about the possibility of more eyes hidden somewhere (or may be summoned, as danzou was able to summon a mythical beast)
danzou will lose not to sasuke. unless he gets another anger-up. besides, danzou is obviously going to try his hardest to survive until shisui's eye recharges. surely it holds some super power.
1) eyes = lives, but that was a given
2) possibly has more eyes (as karin suggests, and 10 as madara stated does not include shisui's)
3) danzou will very likely survive this confrontation
I believe #3 to be true because there's a panel where danzou thinks to himself "i should save energy in case madara plays dirty".
and thats when #2 comes into play, as karin hypothesizes about the possibility of more eyes hidden somewhere (or may be summoned, as danzou was able to summon a mythical beast)
danzou will lose not to sasuke. unless he gets another anger-up. besides, danzou is obviously going to try his hardest to survive until shisui's eye recharges. surely it holds some super power.
Blizzard589
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It also could have been Kabuto (working for Oro) since he spent some time in Konoha and he has knowledge of implanting cells of great shinobi to take their power.
A question to everyone:
If Sasuke can supress the Kyuubi inside Naruto, could he force Kyuubi to release chakra and make Naruto unbalanced in Sage mode?
Yeah, Naruto needs more training and Sasuke need new eyes and they'll be ready to fight each other. The dropout always has to train so much more than the genius.
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I dont think so, i think only naruto will have control of the kyuubis chakra when he gets the key jiraiya left him, and remember when he changed into the kyuubi 8 tails form, after he was still in sage mode but just lost his clone, i think he can stay in sage mode if the kyuubis chakra comes out
danzou isnt going to die from that attack, plus he also has shisui's sharingan to use i doubt he will die without using it. i think danzo is gonna use shisui's MS and then madara will teleport sasuke and karin out of there. NO1 IS GOING TO DIE LOL 100%
Shika Love
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Danzo summons a giant elephant-tiger thing that blows great gusts of wind? Weird.
I am glad we were not left hanging on the exacts of Izanagi for long. It seems that, while each sharingan does not represent a life per se (as many people guessed), each eye allows the user to become essentially immortal for a short time - not a bad guess! I think its pretty sick that Izanagi allows the user to make disadvantageous things illusions. I also think it fairly likely, given that Madara seems familiar with the technique and we have never seen his other eye, that it was Izanagi that Madara used to escape the First, blinding and sealing his eye. Also, since Danzo is surprised that Sasuke understands Izanagi (from Karin's insight...which has been invaluable to him in this fight), it is unlikely that Izanagi is described in the secret Uchiha texts.
While I can hope that Danzo is dead, or even injured, I think it is unlikely. It is possibile Sasuke struck Danzo after the final eye closed, but, as Karin points out in this chapter, Danzo could easily have further Sharingan hidden elsewhere on his body. We also do not know the full extent of the powers in Shisui's eye-Danzo's right eye. It has some sort of mind-control abilities (used in the kage summit) and apparently it needs time to recover, but I think it likely we will see that eye before the fight is over.
Looking at the final page of the chapter...there is definitely blood flying from Danzo and Sasuke's sword is definitely through him, Danzo's weapon does not seem to be through Sasuke's torso, but rather between his arm and chest...
I too hope that the next few chapters will bring more Naruto...it has been awhile! I think it likely now that the battle between Sasuke and Danzo is drawing to a close...it is also likely we will see Sakura and company soon.
Enjoyed this chapter and cannot wait for the next!!
I am glad we were not left hanging on the exacts of Izanagi for long. It seems that, while each sharingan does not represent a life per se (as many people guessed), each eye allows the user to become essentially immortal for a short time - not a bad guess! I think its pretty sick that Izanagi allows the user to make disadvantageous things illusions. I also think it fairly likely, given that Madara seems familiar with the technique and we have never seen his other eye, that it was Izanagi that Madara used to escape the First, blinding and sealing his eye. Also, since Danzo is surprised that Sasuke understands Izanagi (from Karin's insight...which has been invaluable to him in this fight), it is unlikely that Izanagi is described in the secret Uchiha texts.
While I can hope that Danzo is dead, or even injured, I think it is unlikely. It is possibile Sasuke struck Danzo after the final eye closed, but, as Karin points out in this chapter, Danzo could easily have further Sharingan hidden elsewhere on his body. We also do not know the full extent of the powers in Shisui's eye-Danzo's right eye. It has some sort of mind-control abilities (used in the kage summit) and apparently it needs time to recover, but I think it likely we will see that eye before the fight is over.
Looking at the final page of the chapter...there is definitely blood flying from Danzo and Sasuke's sword is definitely through him, Danzo's weapon does not seem to be through Sasuke's torso, but rather between his arm and chest...
I too hope that the next few chapters will bring more Naruto...it has been awhile! I think it likely now that the battle between Sasuke and Danzo is drawing to a close...it is also likely we will see Sakura and company soon.
Enjoyed this chapter and cannot wait for the next!!
yoshimitsu
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agree with most, as ive had similar thoughts is previous posts.
however, his eyes are in fact lives "per se". they are not exactly lives, they are lives "per se".
it would make sense if madara escaped the 1st by sacrificing one of his eyes. it would also explain why he claims to be a shell of his former self; he probably lost the ability to summon susanoo since both eyes are required, and amaterasu (i believe thats the left eye ability)
however, it would seem every MS activates a special ability in everyone, unique to them only. shisui had mind control, madara has teleport (and possibly more), kakashi has some dimensional warp, and itachi not so sure, maybe the ability to capture anyone in an illusion and manipulate illusions however so he desires.
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Shika Love
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You are right they are lives "per se"...that's what I meant and it didn't come out right i guess.
Unique MS abilities is a brilliant idea...it would explain so much!! especially kakashi's dimensional warp, which has had me confused for awhile. However, it has yet to be confirmed if mind control, teleport or even izanagi are mangekyo or normal sharingan techniques...still, the idea certainly has merit!!
SSJ3Gotenks
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did anyone else notice that Madara's eyes went from regular Sharingan to MS at the end of the chapter that was pretty interesting to me and really the only thing that was another sasuke snoozefest develop some other characters the only upside is that Danzo really is a badass regardless of the outcome no one can deny that. Everyone including myself thought he was just an old beat up geezer. Can't wait for something other thatn Sasuke i am trying to keep reminding myself the name of this manga is still Naruto
Blizzard589
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That's true, I forgot...I dont think so, i think only naruto will have control of the kyuubis chakra when he gets the key jiraiya left him, and remember when he changed into the kyuubi 8 tails form, after he was still in sage mode but just lost his clone, i think he can stay in sage mode if the kyuubis chakra comes out
Oh well.
Naruto_Lee
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i think in the next chapter madara would have interfered the battle o help sasuke or even danzo........he might join with danzo and fight sasuke....but i think he just interfered to help sasuke out............or kabuto would have already appeared as someone told so that madara might have used ms to note him or stop his attack.............
UniversalPain
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yeah i did see sasuke use his ms power towards the end. that move is probably going to almost kill danzo but the eye in his head is gonna keep him from being killed somehow.
yoshimitsu
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well it doesnt anywhere, but when the other uchihas visited itachi (or more so to see if he was the culprit), some guy mentioned that shisui had the ability to control minds.
if my assumption is in fact correct, for shisui to have such a unique ability he would had to have awaken his MS, for simple 3-dotted sharingan users dont have a unique ability.
and seeing as izanagi is some trade-off between life and eye, i could see why the kyuubi attacked the village a second time; madara wanted more eyes as well. i highly doubt he was collecting eyes when he was the uchiha leader, so possibly the kyuubi event was really madara's doing. and i highly doubt he would attack with the kyuubi alone for a second time if he succeeded the first time in collecting eyes.
what i dont understand is why are sharingans so powerful if they are considered the lesser of the 3 : rinnegan #1, byuakugan #2. in pure brute strength, rinnegan is probably best. in pure insight, byuakugan is best. but for overall use, it would seem sharingan is the most balanced for it offers ninjutsu genjutsu and helps one's taijutsu.
well i dont know who everyone is, but i sure didnt. and im sure a lot would agree as well.
it was to my surprise that danzou had such good mobility at such an age, but i was prepared to see him as a worthy opponent. danzou couldnt have been weak to be the head of root. i mean, even if he were twice or three times as old as he currently is, i probably wouldnt be the only one to assume he'd still have some badass techniques.
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Whiteknight
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I agree 100%. He can't die, there are too many things still to explain. Like:danzou isnt going to die from that attack, plus he also has shisui's sharingan to use i doubt he will die without using it. i think danzo is gonna use shisui's MS and then madara will teleport sasuke and karin out of there. NO1 IS GOING TO DIE LOL 100%
1) When did he get all those sharingan implanted into himself?
2) He used Izanagi immediately when he fought Sasuke, and immediately wasted one of his eyes. This suggests he isn't worried about losing them. Does he have a supply of eyes in reserve somewhere? Like, does he have a big pile of sharingan eyes in his house?
3) What is the purpose of that face on his shoulder? Where did that face come from? When did he add it to his shoulder?
4) What powers does his right eye have?
5) What are the extent of his mokuton powers?
6) What does he intend to do with the kyuubi?
Too many questions. He can't die before some of them get answered.
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It only sucked to you because you hate Sasuke and you need to face the realization that Kishimoto created this manga based on Naruto and Sasuke. They are both main protagonists and the manga story arcs will mainly involve them. You can't say for fact that Sasuke will be out of chakra, you can only assume something that has yet to happen. Sasuke will not die because the manga has been based around Naruto retrieving him back and if he was to die the story plot would collapse. It wouldn't be logical for Kishimoto to make Naruto's character have only this undying desire to then have Sasuke die in the end. Look up emo and you will be surprised that Sasuke doesn't fit that label and haters are the ones who call him that out of ignorance. Please suppress that foul tongue of yours and if you have something vile to say about any characters might I advise you to keep it to yourself because it is very insolent to me and any other person that happens to come across your hateful/grotesque post.
Again saying things for a fact when they indeed are not. If you wanted to be taken seriously then cease in forming your words into an opinion rather than fact.
Karin was only able to come to the conclusions in this chapter only because of how Sasuke handled his "strategies" against Danzou. Also, we cannot say for a fact that he was only informed on how to defeat him by Karin, when he has apparently had this particular strategy from the get go. In my opinion, I believe that you are incorrect and this is why take a look below:
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Even though he is fighting one of the people out of his vendetta, he was still able to think like the genius he is by canceling out the summonings powerful gusts with a katon jutsu which only grew through the wind thus destroying it in the process. This was done that way he wouldn't stay open even though Danzou created that gap in Susano'o. Even Madara acknowledged as he was quoted complimenting him for doing so.
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Karin indeed figured out Izanagi but before she could inform Sasuke, he interrupts her as he obviously had predetermined this without her help. Although, simply for assured confirmation, he asked Danzou flat out and the answer is then indeed confirmed. It just goes to show how Sasuke easily exposed Daznou's technique as he naively gave it away, his strategy was anything but a joke as it was the reason why he came to the same conclusion Karin made and how his brain maintained its intellect.
Well, don't you think that Kabuto could have his own priorities rather than only being a tool for Daznou to use?
UniversalPain
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you have a very good point. maybe sasuke being so enraged at danzo allowed him to gain more power and perfect his ms genjtsu as he used his anger to perfect susano.
karin hasnt had anything to do with sasuke holding his own against danzo. its all been sasuke. she can yell info @ him all she wants but it comes down to sasukes power saving himself.At first I thought there is no way Naruto can beat Sasuke but now
Sasuke's stagery is a joke these day, he is so lucky he has Karin with him or else he be dead by now.
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Shika Love
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You make some good points here, however, we do not know if shisui had the ability to control minds or not. It is simply the ability Danzo uses with that particular eye. It is possible that Danzo awakened MS in Shisui's eye similar to the way Kakashi did with Obito's. Considering the requirements for MS, I think it highly unlikely that Shisui himself had MS.
As for Madara and the kyuubi attack on Konoha, his involvement has already been pretty well established. When Minato appeared to Naruto following the explosion of 8 tails, he hinted that the reason he sealed the kyuubi in Naruto, his own son, was because he believed Madara was involved with it. Itachi hinted the same to Sasuke, and Madara may even have hinted it himself. You may be correct in saying the eyes/the Uchiha in general are some sort of motivation for him though.
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