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I think Kakashi got MS because he witnessed Obito die plus he blames himself for his death....After Obitos death, his sharingan is already ready for MS..maybe little training activated it..
According to the uchiha to get Ms you have to kill your best friend, kakashi didnt kill obito, so that cant be the reason he has Ms that just means he trained and unlocked it!
 

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First of all my understanding of MS is that each MS user gets different powers, like 3 powers of Itachi (Tsukyumi, Amaterasu, and Sasuno) and for Kakashi the opening new dimension and similarly for Madara some power to transport still not named :p (maybe they will have more powers as well!!!)

So if its correct Sasuke should also have more powers other than those given by Itachi to him. One of which i think is the power to extinguish Amaterasu flames (just seen anime ep.143: in which sasuke extinguished the flames), which i think is similar to Kakashi's powers.

Now about Izangi, i dont think its a MS technique, but it must have some side effect as normaly only those techniques are forbidden that have a side effect :D

And lastly i hope to see some Naruto action!!! :naruto::naruto:xd;)
 

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First of all my understanding of MS is that each MS user gets different powers, like 3 powers of Itachi (Tsukyumi, Amaterasu, and Sasuno) and for Kakashi the opening new dimension and similarly for Madara some power to transport still not named :p (maybe they will have more powers as well!!!)

So if its correct Sasuke should also have more powers other than those given by Itachi to him. One of which i think is the power to extinguish Amaterasu flames (just seen anime ep.143: in which sasuke extinguished the flames), which i think is similar to Kakashi's powers.

Now about Izangi, i dont think its a MS technique, but it must have some side effect as normaly only those techniques are forbidden that have a side effect :D

And lastly i hope to see some Naruto action!!! :naruto::naruto:xd;)
Has anyone thought that the Ms abilities that sasuke has arnt what itachi gave him but what sasuke unlocked himself by killing his brother?
 

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Has anyone thought that the Ms abilities that sasuke has arnt what itachi gave him but what sasuke unlocked himself by killing his brother?
This is true but he didn't killed Itachi after all.. He just died at his hands..
Itachi actually won.. Sasuke was cornered in fear..
Sasuke has the same lineage as Itachi,that could explain why he awakened the same 3 techniques..
 

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This is true but he didn't killed Itachi after all.. He just died at his hands..
Itachi actually won.. Sasuke was cornered in fear..
Sasuke has the same lineage as Itachi,that could explain why he awakened the same 3 techniques..
Good point, i still think he unlocked Ms by emotional stress of his brother dying at his hands and that Itachi left something else behind, something important....

Also i believe that kakashi could have unlocked Ms this way by not being able to save a comrade or one of his comrades betraying him and he had to kill them, or maybe he unlocked it through training, i dont think kakashi would of killed his best friend for power
 

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hey did u guys ever sit here and think that kakashi can possibly use the other techs , or maybe not since he isnt full fledge uchiha but kakashi's move is the same one madara uses and the same tech sasuke used to put out the flames on krin and the 8 tails
 

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According to the uchiha to get Ms you have to kill your best friend, kakashi didnt kill obito, so that cant be the reason he has Ms that just means he trained and unlocked it!
According to the uchiha to get Ms you have to kill your best friend, kakashi didnt kill obito, so that cant be the reason he has Ms that just means he trained and unlocked it!
Yeah, that is logical but it isn't confirmed either. Kakashi could have been reminiscing about everyone he lost that were important to him and unlocked it differently then how a regular Uchiha would but nonetheless it shall remain in the air as to how he achieved it, that is unless Kishimoto gives us a flashback or something about it in a future chapter.

What I also found a bit humorous was that when Sasuke used this hawk summoning, etc. certain people claimed that he never trained or that it was simply a magical power-up but if you think about it what they claimed wasn't logical, right? Just as Kakashi obtained Mangekyou during the timeskip couldn't Sasuke have easily signed a contract for that summoning during the periods of time that we never saw him? If I remember correctly Naruto's summoning contract didn't take that much time to do and doubt it would have taken Sasuke longer than Naruto to obtain it. Sasuke already had knowledge about Manda and snake summoning so why is it so farfetched? He was bound to get another summoning since Orochimaru was no longer present within him and enabled him from using the snake summoning any longer.

Before I get into Sasuke's Susanoo completion, I would like to make a few comments about Sharingan in general. Every Uchiha member is not born with it but rather awakes it through experiencing an emotional/stressful event. This was seen through Obito fighting to protect Kakashi from an Iwagakure shinobi. The Kekkei Genkai can continue to evolve through repeated usage/training. From what I've seen the Mangekyou is gained through the agony of losing someone close to the wielder. This was shown through Sasuke, he never killed Itachi and instead he died on his own by giving into his illness. With that said I think we can all agree that Mangekyou can be awakened without killing the one(s) closest to the user.

Now, to move onto the Susanoo that Sasuke used this chapter. All Mangekyou abilities seem to be simular to the evolution of the Sharingan hence Sasuke awakening them after or during emotional/stressful events. He was shown able to activate Susanoo during with fight with Raikage which meant that he could've trained or simply met the requirements which was to at least have Tsukuyomi/Amaterasu awakened previously. It was to be expected that Sasuke would unleash his full Susanoo at some point because he was heavily using his Mangekyou and thus gaining experience with it. Sasuke also was an a very stressful situation when Danzo had used his juin and left him restrained and vulnerable to a lethal wound that Danzo was about to inflict. Is it just me or is it logical that Sasuke awakened his Susanoo due to the significant level of stress that he was experiencing? It seems as if the Sharingan and its abilities reaches its maximum after being in a dangerous/emotional situation. I just wanted to share some of my thoughts and it is only up to yourselves how you choose to interpret what occurs within the manga.​
 
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Good point, i still think he unlocked Ms by emotional stress of his brother dying at his hands and that Itachi left something else behind, something important....

Also i believe that kakashi could have unlocked Ms this way by not being able to save a comrade or one of his comrades betraying him and he had to kill them, or maybe he unlocked it through training, i dont think kakashi would of killed his best friend for power
Actually, Madara explained how Sasuke achieved the MS when he told Sasuke the truth about Itachi. He said that Itachi purposefully lured Oro out of Sasuke and then killed him because Oro was the person closest to Sasuke. Since Sasuke witnessed his death he got the MS. That means that maybe Kakashi got MS just because he witnessed the death of the closest person to him.

P.S. This is my first quote!
 
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Has anyone thought that the Ms abilities that sasuke has arnt what itachi gave him but what sasuke unlocked himself by killing his brother?
That could be true. Itachi gave Sasuke the Amaterasu, that is a positive, but we didn't hear anything about Itachi giving him the other 2 techs. Maybe Sasuke has the same techs as Itachi, but that would kind of suck considering that would mean not many more cool eye techs for Sasuke.
 
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Wow, Danzo is STRONG! Who woulda thought the old man had that much strength? Looks like Sasuke has gotten in WAY over his head... anyway, onto the Izanagi. I don't no wat it is, but I don't think it's a regeneration/reanimation/reincarnation jutsu, just because we've seen it all b4 and those justus take a lot of time to use. If you remember Pein's, his justu took a while to regenerate his bodies, and Oro's also took a long time. I think it mite b a time warp jutsu, but unlike Madara's, it's not a space/time jutsu. I think it actually warps time. I think that would b cool and it hasn't been seen b4... whatever it is tho, it better b awesome cuz I'm exited to c an awesome new jutsu... not some lame one that Sasuke somehow poofs away from or dodges.
 

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Yeah, that is logical but it isn't confirmed either. Kakashi could have been reminiscing about everyone he lost that were important to him and unlocked it differently then how a regular Uchiha would but nonetheless it shall remain in the air as to how he achieved it, that is unless Kishimoto gives us a flashback or something about it in a future chapter.

What I also found a bit humorous was that when Sasuke used this hawk summoning, etc. certain people claimed that he never trained or that it was simply a magical power-up but if you think about it what they claimed wasn't logical, right? Just as Kakashi obtained Mangekyou during the timeskip couldn't Sasuke have easily signed a contract for that summoning during the periods of time that we never saw him? If I remember correctly Naruto's summoning contract didn't take that much time to do and doubt it would have taken Sasuke longer than Naruto to obtain it. Sasuke already had knowledge about Manda and snake summoning so why is it so farfetched? He was bound to get another summoning since Orochimaru was no longer present within him and enabled him from using the snake summoning any longer.

Before I get into Sasuke's Susanoo completion, I would like to make a few comments about Sharingan in general. Every Uchiha member is not born with it but rather awakes it through experiencing an emotional/stressful event. This was seen through Obito fighting to protect Kakashi from an Iwagakure shinobi. The Kekkei Genkai can continue to evolve through repeated usage/training. From what I've seen the Mangekyou is gained through the agony of losing someone close to the wielder. This was shown through Sasuke, he never killed Itachi and instead he died on his own by giving into his illness. With that said I think we can all agree that Mangekyou can be awakened without killing the one(s) closest to the user.

Now, to move onto the Susanoo that Sasuke used this chapter. All Mangekyou abilities seem to be simular to the evolution of the Sharingan hence Sasuke awakening them after or during emotional/stressful events. He was shown able to activate Susanoo during with fight with Raikage which meant that he could've trained or simply met the requirements which was to at least have Tsukuyomi/Amaterasu awakened previously. It was to be expected that Sasuke would unleash his full Susanoo at some point because he was heavily using his Mangekyou and thus gaining experience with it. Sasuke also was an a very stressful situation when Danzo had used his juin and left him restrained and vulnerable to a lethal wound that Danzo was about to inflict. Is it just me or is it logical that Sasuke awakened his Susanoo due to the significant level of stress that he was experiencing? It seems as if the Sharingan and its abilities reaches its maximum after being in a dangerous/emotional situation. I just wanted to share some of my thoughts and it is only up to yourselves how you choose to interpret what occurs within the manga.​
Well i agree with u on the matter that it was only a matter before Sasuke was able to use all the MS jutus, i don't have any problem with that. However i agree with those people complaining about Sasuke summoning a Hawk.
First of all u gave Kakashi's example but u forgot that Kakashi got two and a half years so everyone was expecting Kakashi to come up with a new technique. And for Sasuke well we have been watching him getting involved in battles one after another. The only time he was not active was when he named his team Hawk. U also said that he was bound to get another summoning, what r u saying. If u mean making contacts was just that easy then even normal ninjas would have summoned tons of animals. The fact that we saw Oro and Jiraiya and Tsunade only summoning a speicific animal proves that its not about the knowledge but as the Third Hokage said that to Jiraiya that each person is entitled to have his own animals to summon if he will have any. So saying that Sasuke already knew how to summon Manda doesn't necessarily means that he can even summon Hawks. I know that after some time Kisi will show that how he got that summon but its obvious that bcoz he named his team Hawk thats why he is able to summon Hawks. Thats why poeple are complaining about it.
 

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Its been more than 100 years since the fight between the First and Madara. And Pain is not that old, he is i guess 30 or 40. So keeping Madara alive all this time is not possible. The reason Madara was upset that Pain used the life jutsu on Konoha is that Madara thought that he can use Pain's jutsu in the future if he needed it.So your reason for Madara's survival can't just be possible. i want your views on this:)
Never thought of that haha
You are indeed right i am sure there were some medical nins around in his hey day with the uchiha who helped out possibly EMS gives a extended life span to the weilder i'm not 100% sure on it to me pein was the most logical assumption but until we are given more information about the past and about what Madara and the frist did and what Madara and the 4th did lol it is hard to say so my thoughts are wait until more information is given haha
 

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He may, but somehow I think he will attain EMS in a different way, like Kakashi will.
Speaking of this did it ever give us any insight as to HOW kakashi got MS haha or leveld his sharingan up to the thrid stage lol
Like i am totally clueless on it i know he saw obitio die put it was only a lvl 2 sharingan and nowadays he is balling lol plus his MS abilitys are so different from everyone except Madara you think maybe obito was a Son or nephew of Madara lol weird but possible i just wanna know if anyone knows about the sharingan kakashi has
 

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I have read many spoilers and predictions about the gift Itachi gave to Naruto. Most of them saying it will enable Naruto to control the Kyuubi. Well i don't think that was the power Itachi gave to Naruto. As far as I remember Itachi told Naruto that he hopes Naruto has to never use that power against Sasuke. So my guess is Itachi gave Naruto some sorta power that will give Naruto the upper hand against Sasuke's Sharingan and the MS. May be it will help him from falling into genjutsus by the Sharingan and the Tsukyoumi. Its just a guess so i want to hear what others have to say about it
I Dissagree on this i have a theory about that "gift" i believe it is the full truth in a genjutsu type trigger for Sasuke so he knows the truth behind everything including Madara don't forget Itachi wanted to be the bad guy so he would be a hero and the Truth turns sasuke into the emo douchebag he really is xd so i think we will see itachi's trigger come out when Sasuke is going to use a super power MS/EMS technique against naruto thus causeing Sasuke to rethink his path in life and his fight against Naruto .... let me know guys what are your thoughts
 
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