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hahaha do you think badass killerbee gona teach a "normal" jinchuriki?
naruto need become a NIGA RAPPER.

Or like Guy and lee.

MAN NARUTO A RAPPEr like this.. sasuke fool idiot jinchuriki 9 tailes gonna be a kill you...datebayooo.. sasuke bayo.. come back bayo.. sakura-chan attack left bayoo.. sai-o chan attack back bayooo. I gonna **** you YEAH!!

man thats funny ha ha haaaaa............i cant stop laughing..............thats a nice joke man..........man naruto is now more powerful than kb man...............only thing is he cant control kyuubi like kb.............
 

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just one thing about the "how could senju be as powerfull as uchiha"-question:

just having the sharingan, doesn't mean you can use to the extend as itachi and sasuke or even madara can do. i mean, all 3 of them are geniuses. but what could for example sasuke do when he had his normal sharingan? he could predict narutos movements, which is indeed a fairly good feature, but its nothing skilld ninjas, like the senju, couldn't overcome i think. later he could do some genjutsu like he does when he fought deidera, but than again, he's a genius. and i'm sure doing this wasn't that common even among the uchiha.

the sharingan is a weapon, and using a weapon is all about skill!

however, there of course has to be some special technique that allowed the first to overcome the MS of madara... and i hope naruto is getting that one;)
man i agree with u for everything except one thing..............pls dont ever compare sasuke to itachi or madara and dont say sasuke as a genius............he is only a dumb ninja........
 

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and about sasuke's powerups and fighting time... there are 2 reasons why nobody should complain about it:

1. like someone said before, it means that most likely naruto will get some new techs soon enough to compete with him and
2. which i think is far more important and everybody seems to overlook that: if sasuke is blowing out one new/more edvanced ms technique after an other, not only he suffers, but his eyesight does to. i mean, remember itachi's state when he fought sasuke. he barely could see sasuke's silhouette. each susanoo and amaterasu he uses makes him throw away his eyes in the end.
man c'mon even if he loses his eyesight he can take itachi's....but the thing is did he get the powers of ms by training.............he is just a gifted dumb ninja...................
 

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All respect to kishi, this manga is becoming bullshit, sasuke keeps powering up, with nothing to show for it, put aside the fact that hes a genious, even genious shinobi have to work/train for their jutsu, sasukes seem to just sprout out of thin air, now he hasa complete susanoo that shoots arrows n shit...omg, and what does naruto get? a siezure(i know hes just hyperventilating), BS

man u dont have to worry man.......its just as i told ............even kishi realised that naruto is more powerful than sasuke even with lesser no of techniques................so he is just powering up sasuke just to equal naruto..............sasuke is always gifted dumb a*****................
 

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In the entire manga I don't think we've ever seen a sharingan user lose a fight to a non-user. We did see Sasuke "lose" a fight to Orochimaru before the chunin exams, but that was hardly a fair fight (young child versus talented adult ninja).

Yes, an untalented sharingan user wouldn't have much advantage against a talented non-user. However we're talking about large scale battles between entire clans. Is anybody going to suggest that all Uchiha warriors are below average ability and all Senju warriors are above average? I find that highly unlikely.
man sasuke a sharingan user was almost killed by raikage a non user............so ur i few lines are wrong................man senju are exceptionally skilled clans..........man when madara fought with harishima none of his clan members helped him..............who knows even harishima could have used the power of a bijuu ...............
 

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I say the same thing, but we are getting to the point where Susuke is running out of new ultimate powers to gain. He has all the powers his eyes can give him now, so can't magically get new powers from those. He could get Itachi's eyes and gain the same Jutsus that Madara has, but that's the end of that road of development.

And he's trained with Orochimaru who knew a lot of jutsus to teach him. However, Orochimaru is basically dead now and Sasuke can't learn anything else from him.

Madara is available as a teacher, but how much does Madara know that Sasuke doesn't? Plus, how much time is Sasuke going to take off from his constant revenge search in order to train? With the powers of the MS, is there even a motivation for him to learn new techniques? Susanoo and Amaterasu get the job done and Sasuke will think they are "good enough" until he loses a battle and needs to find something more.

Naruto on the other hand isn't blinded by a constant need for revenge, is surrounded by people who would be willing to train him (frog sages, Tsunade, Kakashi, etc), has time/opportunity to train, and hasn't been relying on a particular physical attribute so heavily that he can't find other roads to improvement. He could improve his relationship with the fox, could improve his sage mode stamina and ability to collect natural chakra, can learn new jutsus to round out his arsenal, etc.

I hold my position that at this very moment Naruto would lose in a fight to Sasuke, but in the long term Naruto has much more potential than Sasuke does.
u say that naruto will lose to sasuke at present..............man thats a great joke.........man c'mon naruto ability has been increased a lot by his training............there is no hope for sasuke to win now.......dont ever think of it pls.....
 

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just one thing about the "how could senju be as powerfull as uchiha"-question:

just having the sharingan, doesn't mean you can use to the extend as itachi and sasuke or even madara can do. i mean, all 3 of them are geniuses. but what could for example sasuke do when he had his normal sharingan? he could predict narutos movements, which is indeed a fairly good feature, but its nothing skilld ninjas, like the senju, couldn't overcome i think. later he could do some genjutsu like he does when he fought deidera, but than again, he's a genius. and i'm sure doing this wasn't that common even among the uchiha.

the sharingan is a weapon, and using a weapon is all about skill!

however, there of course has to be some special technique that allowed the first to overcome the MS of madara... and i hope naruto is getting that one;)
just the thing i said dude:)
 

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I'm not a Sasuke fan actually i don't like him, many people are saying that Sasuke got most of his powers for free or as a gift. Well the fact is the Kyuubis powers that Naruto used and uses(in the battle against Pain) is also a gift from his father the Fouth Hokage. The only difference is Sasuke is already able to use his powers to almost its full potential and Naruto still doesn't know how to control the Kyuubi. Well the day we learned that Itachi gave his powers to Sasuke we all knew he will be able to use the MS powers. But amazingly i still haven't seen Sasuke use Tsukyoumi which shows in genjutsu Itachi is far superior than Sasuke. But I was really surprised to see Sasuke summon a hawk, well we all know u have to make contact with the animal first and all that but just bcoz he named his team hawk doesn't mean he will be able to summon it. Thats crazy. I read someone writing about it , i don wanna be a copycat but i cant resist to write this:

Sasuke named his Snake(Hebi) so he was able to summon snakes
Then he changed the name to Hawk so now he is able to summon hawk
Finally he will name his team Shit then he will summon shit in the battlefield

LOL
 

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I have read many spoilers and predictions about the gift Itachi gave to Naruto. Most of them saying it will enable Naruto to control the Kyuubi. Well i don't think that was the power Itachi gave to Naruto. As far as I remember Itachi told Naruto that he hopes Naruto has to never use that power against Sasuke. So my guess is Itachi gave Naruto some sorta power that will give Naruto the upper hand against Sasuke's Sharingan and the MS. May be it will help him from falling into genjutsus by the Sharingan and the Tsukyoumi. Its just a guess so i want to hear what others have to say about it
 

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Thats a fair point but sasukes body would only last 3 years, unless he would need an uchihas body to do a forbidden technique to live longer
Remember when Oro was doing the ritual his two previous bodies was behind Sasuke so this may mean, The Power of the bodies that Oro took over will stay forever with him as long as he lives...therefore every three years he will gain new powers as he transfer from one body to another...Powers of his previous bodies will not disappear as he transfer to a new body..
 

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Well how can danzo controll people then?
How does kakashi have MS?

How does it explain all that then :p
I think Kakashi got MS because he witnessed Obito die plus he blames himself for his death....After Obitos death, his sharingan is already ready for MS..maybe little training activated it..
 

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OK
I have a logical assumption as to what is going on !
according to mythology and such and from what i have seen i have a theory !
Izanagi returns people to life after near death (or certian death situations) BUT ! the cost of using this technique is losing a sharingan eye(making it forbidden for uchiha's to maintain the power of the clan) ... After seeing this i can safely say this is how Madara is alive after the fight with the frist :) and also explains Why he only has one eye ! and why he is a former shell of himself as losing that one eye he no longer has EMS ... this also explains how he was able to recognize the jutsu when danzo was using it
Really if you think about it this puts all the peices back together and everything fits nicely and i think this is the secret behind it :) so this means danzo ordered the hit on uchiha's just so he could stock up on eye's to get his psuedo-immortality given the coup de tett (sorry about spelling not french lol) as a cover up for his true plans and now wants naruto to assume absolute control over the entire ninja world LOL it makes sense scary but it does make sense
Let me know if this helps anyone :)
dont think Danzo will let an eye be wasted just like that...It is just a technique..I think when his eyes closes thats the time when they are activated..and since two to three were closed means two to three sharingan powers are combined...and then creates a new sharingan power ms level or maybe higher..
 

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I have read many spoilers and predictions about the gift Itachi gave to Naruto. Most of them saying it will enable Naruto to control the Kyuubi. Well i don't think that was the power Itachi gave to Naruto. As far as I remember Itachi told Naruto that he hopes Naruto has to never use that power against Sasuke. So my guess is Itachi gave Naruto some sorta power that will give Naruto the upper hand against Sasuke's Sharingan and the MS. May be it will help him from falling into genjutsus by the Sharingan and the Tsukyoumi. Its just a guess so i want to hear what others have to say about it
This "power" is no "power".

I believe it's Itachi himself, most likely he left a part of his soul inside Sasuke and Naruto.. Just my thought tho :p
 

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I'm not a Sasuke fan actually i don't like him, many people are saying that Sasuke got most of his powers for free or as a gift. Well the fact is the Kyuubis powers that Naruto used and uses(in the battle against Pain) is also a gift from his father the Fouth Hokage. The only difference is Sasuke is already able to use his powers to almost its full potential and Naruto still doesn't know how to control the Kyuubi. Well the day we learned that Itachi gave his powers to Sasuke we all knew he will be able to use the MS powers. But amazingly i still haven't seen Sasuke use Tsukyoumi which shows in genjutsu Itachi is far superior than Sasuke. But I was really surprised to see Sasuke summon a hawk, well we all know u have to make contact with the animal first and all that but just bcoz he named his team hawk doesn't mean he will be able to summon it. Thats crazy. I read someone writing about it , i don wanna be a copycat but i cant resist to write this:

Sasuke named his Snake(Hebi) so he was able to summon snakes
Then he changed the name to Hawk so now he is able to summon hawk
Finally he will name his team Shit then he will summon shit in the battlefield

LOL
man you are saying that kyuubi is a gift for naruto???? then why didnt it allow the two frogs to join with naruto to complete his sage mode..............i agree that it is a gift but it is only a bad gift unlike ms.............if u say kyuubi is a gift for naruto then sharingan is gift by birth for sasuke............without sharingan sasuke could not have mastered chidori,his signature move ......then he got curse mark and ms and its 3 powers for free.........and sasuke used tsukuyomi against kb when kb changed into the hachibi
 

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man you are saying that kyuubi is a gift for naruto???? then why didnt it allow the two frogs to join with naruto to complete his sage mode..............i agree that it is a gift but it is only a bad gift unlike ms.............if u say kyuubi is a gift for naruto then sharingan is gift by birth for sasuke............without sharingan sasuke could not have mastered chidori,his signature move ......then he got curse mark and ms and its 3 powers for free.........and sasuke used tsukuyomi against kb when kb changed into the hachibi
i know that the kyuubi didn't allow the two frogs to join Naruto but it is still a gift and Not a bad one. We have seen Naruto use it many times when he gets into a tough situation. Even against Pain even though he mastered the Sage mode i don't think he couldn't have won unless he used the kyuubi's powers to transform that gave Pain a lot of trouble. And even now people are saying that someone or precisely will train Naruto to control the Kyuubi , why's that? Bcoz even the Fourh himself told Naruto that someone of Madara's capabilities has to be defeated with something special, so it is the ULTIMATE gift .

As for Sasuke i guess u r right. Kishi is giving him help from every side, but then again if it wasn't for Itachi Sasuke wouldn't have been a topic to talk about.
 

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well i said that i would like to see Oro and Sasuke fight but thats only in the long run if its possible. Having read a few predictions it seems that Kakashi may well fight against Sasuke. I would love to see that. Kakashi haven't seen Sasuke since he left the village, so it will be a very intersting confrontation. Plus the fact that Kakashi now has the MS we may even see him showing some new techiniques(for him like Amaterasu), but i know that if those two fights Sasuke is clearly the fovourite to win, but i have a feeling that knowing Sasuke and being a genius plus getting beaten badly by Itachi the last time Kakashi fought a Sharingan user he will definitely have a strategy to fight.
If that happens it will be awesomexd
 
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