[Predictions] Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

[Zoldyck]

but hold on
if danzo and orochimaru were working together
howcome danzou let orochimaru invade da leaf and kill the 3rd even though he would do dirty stuff to protect konoha (as sai mentioned in chapter 452 page 9)
doesnt make any sense

 

[Zoldyck]

Hi guys..How you all doing?? I was able to get online here in hospital throught a friend's Laptop.. (but i explain that better and my condition in my "Goodbye Thread")

First of all thanks so much to all my supporters specially Kuroi Honoo and Juuken. You guys are the best.

About the chapter.. Was a really good chapter with a really huge twist. Danzoo is super interesting and just like i suspected he was in works with Orochimaru for a very long time.. (No wonder Orochimaru was always informed about Konoha even beinf far away from the village)..

Let me start to say that i was a little bit disappointed that Itachi (my favourite) was a barely genjutsu but unlike Twistedlink said. It did work to some extend as it was a Tsukuyomi/Amaterasu trap which could have closed another eye (life),as it burned Danzo all the way..

About the comparision between Sasuke and Itachi's eyes..
I have to agree with TwistedLink as Sasuke's eyes quite not caught up with Itachi's abilities..
Itachi was a genjutsu monster,a cold,emotionless warrior who could trap you on genjutsu with only a finger..
Itachi's Tsukuyomi was so powerful that legends like Madara and Danzo even feared him and respected him..

However,Sasuke seems to have a better control of Amaterasu and he's even able to use Kagutsuchi (Manipulation of Amaterasu) & a Shield of Amaterasu combined with Susano'o ribs..

As for Susano'o,now that we've seen both versions completed. I have to say while Sasuke's not bad (very good) ,it's not on Itachi's level.
Itachi's Susano'o had the perfect defense (Yatas Mirror) and the perfect offense (Totsuka Sword that seals everything it touchs for eternity)..
Sasuke's version whatever is a super strong defense but not perfect as can be fierced by monstrous brutal force like as of E The Raikage and while it's offense seems excellent. It can be dodged easier then as of Itachi's version..

Sasuke's Susano'o seems interesting and remains to be seen if that Arrow thrower is also a sacred item.. It's also a completely version of Itachi's. Just goes to show that Sasuke awakened his Susano'o on his own (as many haters like to contradict)..

Madara seems to very respectful of Danzou's abilities and Karin managed to discover that his implanted Sharingans are somewhat related to his lifes and chakras..
Seems like everytime he summons those hand-seals,his real spirit disappears from his body and if he gets "killed". One Sharingan will shut as sacrifice and his "Spirit" is back to his body 'till the next fatal hit..
Only Karin seems to know when Danzou is on his real body or not.
He has 10 Sharingans and has been killed 5 or 6 times already,let's all see what he has to offer more.

It's also quite interesting that he could be the one behind the "Kyuubi Incident" (as Madara denies it was he himself).. It's not impossible for him to have transplanted one or some sharingans before the "incident" and managed to control the Kyuubi since he also possesses the First Hokage's DNA (known for being able to control the tailed beasts)..

The problem i get with this theory is that the Kyuubi himself said he knew Madara and Madara himself used the Kyuubi before. Against Hashirama Senju..
There's more evidence about Madara being involved in the "incident" that the later (Danzou)..

Danzou also seems to be pretty interested in get Naruto..But why??
He obviously has a much more easier contact to him as they live in the same village and could have got his hands to Naruto anytime if he wanted too by this time..


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I agree with every word that you said but I dont think that danzou controlled the kyuubi since the 2nd fanbook says that the 4th fought madara when battled the kyuubi + the 4th said madara was behind the kyuubi's attack to naruto when naruto was fighting pain

 

[Pervyy]

I never said it for you to care and the manga chapter claims just the opposite; Sasuke's Susano'o, Completed!. That's just fine, I have come across many Sasuke haters and I expected as much.



Okay, but that is how the Sharingan is. I mean what if Naruto had something similar, would you be just as upset that his tech kept on sprouting out something new? Besides, all Sasuke has accomplished is the completion of his Susanoo and is using what it has to offer, I see no new power it was just be expeted as every fight it continued to progress in evolution.




Okay, dude calm down, I don't know what happened to you, seriously but to call Sasuke “emo gayboy” and his girlfriend Karin a racist bitch is pretty childish and ridiculous, wouldn't you agree? I mean dislike/hate the characters but please refrain from this vile manner. It is very insolent to the fans/supporters and the character. I dislike Naruto/Ichigo/Luffy but I don't go trolling around like a immature grottomon spewing hateful things.



Please, Sasuke only completed his uncompleted Susanoo (which was to be expected) and wow your favorite character is Naruto though you call him all that? Mine is Sasuke and I might not agree with his poor decisions but I don't go around slurring/thinking such thoughts about him.



Nice dude, you blew me away with this post of yours. Where is the teetooktier I first debated with over your minor bashing of Sasuke?



Maybe his arse itched or hurt from sitting in the same spot for a while (sarcasm ends lol).



How is this possible? It is a forbidden tech like Madara said so how can Sasuke attain this as a powerup when he should instead have to learn it?



Wow, that is really imature of you to say. Why don't you rather cease in reading the manga if your so disgusted.





Dude, I think he meant that the fourth Mangekyou Sharingan tech would've been like for example Kakashi's Kamui and of course Itachi was more professional with the Mangekyou, have you and The Pervy Sage forgotten that Sasuke hasn't had that new eye for long as Itachi had his?



More like hasn't Sasuke suffered enough? From everything in his childhood to present manga time he is still suffering. He has go day by day without his beloved family/clan and is why he is so mentally damaged and simply can't give up on his vengeance. Although he is not the first or the last charcater I've seen with a vendetta. It is in many manga so yes he might have chosen poorly how to go about it but I can understand why.



Again, his Susanoo finished completing, Naruto is the main character so I'm sure he will be seen soon enough.



You are an obvious hater of Sasuke but to say this you just might as well stop reading the manga along with all the other people who are tired of seeing Sasuke. Listen, just because he is getting screen time at the moment doesn't mean that Naruto won't be shown. If anything, the show should have been called Naruto and Sasuke because Kishimoto created this manga literally based on those two. Anybody else are somewhat minor as the storyline plots are mostly about them. So instead of hating just quit reading.​

Right i dont hate sasuke i hate what kishi has done with his character, he used to be my favourite character but now i dont like him for several reasons:

1. when he doesnt get his own way he gets a new power without really working for it

2. hes always angry and its kind of anoying when he keeps going on about revenge and how he believe everything madara says

Also im not going to stop reading the manga because i want to see what kishi will do with Naruto and Sasuke in the future, i want sasuke to start questioning madara and Naruto to start to have faith in himself again and get on with things.


Also i dont think sasuke has suffered enough, he chose to carry on and live a vengeful lifestyle and revenge just breeds more hate and hes currupting the world, and for that he should suffer

 

[Kuroi Honoo]

I only give it a five.

Well, it was kinda good to see Izanagi, but Itachi being just a Genjutsu was a troll (although it was predictable).
I kinda liked Sasuke's Susanoo too, it looked like the Kokujou Tengen Myou (Komamura's Bankai) from Bleach..

I know, it kinda does and it looks phenomenal, I am really pleased with Kishi's choice of Susanoo's appearance.

LOL, the new Susanno looks like a burning tree

Looks like you were the only one laughing out loud.



I have to say that I don't understand why there are people so outraged by this chapter's release. Mainly with Itachi's return due to Sasuke's genjutsu/more Sasuke powerups/the rating of the chapter and how the genjutsu was short and had no effect on Danzou. Really no effect, take a look?

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Here we have Danzou shocked so he has been taken in.

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In this page he even admits to falling for it but what do all of you want? I mean, damn at least Sasuke was able to briefly capture Danzou in the illusion but how much more experience does this old man have compared to Sasuke? Plus, Danzou has simply been avoiding death and used his fuuton jutsu that Sasuke was able to evade with out much problem. I don't see how people are saying that Danzou has all these new powers. The implanted DNA just means he has Mokuton like Tenzou more or less and I do doubt he has anything else from the Shoudaime. Now, Izanagi that is a mystery and where we can say is something new, I myself question what more that tech has to offer. Sasuke completed Susanoo end of story. It was expected and has been in a continuing transformation, ne? What I was really expecting was some new doujutsu like Kamui. I rated a five mainly because of the completed version of Susanoo, how twisted Danzou continues to become and how people were always saying Madara is going to come to Sasuke's rescue though this time it was himself through Susanoo. I myself will admit that I was disappointed with the fact that Itachi's return was actually a genjutsu used by Sasuke but he still may return through resurrection, etc. at a later time ^.^​

 

[Degrees]

Please, Sasuke only completed his uncompleted Susanoo (which was to be expected) and wow your favorite character is Naruto though you call him all that? Mine is Sasuke and I might not agree with his poor decisions but I don't go around slurring/thinking such thoughts about him.
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Ok what type of person I am, I dont belly rub people who need to grow up or are making bad choses this is what makes me different from the common fanboy. I show hard love if I have kids I be the same way not slurring them those xdxd. Naruto needs to grow a pair then he will get my respect again because I have nearly completely lost it for him completely.
If your football team manager ****ing up (Sir Alex) then I think you have the right to get angry to complain about the manager just like Naruto not growing up I have the right to get angry. xd

 

[SageD]

This was a good chapter danzou is freaklesy strong and :sasuke: has even gotten strong enough to complete the full susano but the thing that is intresting is that danzou knows the sharingan secert jutsu and that he can control :naruto: know which could lead to some very intresting

 

[Pervyy]

This was a good chapter danzou is freaklesy strong and :sasuke: has even gotten strong enough to complete the full susano but the thing that is intresting is that danzou knows the sharingan secert jutsu and that he can control :naruto: know which could lead to some very intresting

I think naruto is too strong to be controlled, even pain couldnt control him, as for sasuke If he fought with less rage i may like him more and if he trained and didnt just get new powers when he was angry or near death

 

[Stylo]

people were always saying Madara is going to come to Sasuke's rescue though this time it was himself through Susanoo.​

If you take a good look at the chapter, you'll see that te moment Danzou tries to slice Sasuke's head off, Madara makes a move, probly to save sasuke.

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sorry for not url'ing the link. Haven't posted more than 10 times

 

[Pervyy]

If you take a good look at the chapter, you'll see that te moment Danzou tries to slice Sasuke's head off, Madara makes a move, probly to save sasuke.

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sorry for not url'ing the link. Haven't posted more than 10 times

Lol people can learn to copy and paste the link man dont worry, and I think madara was getting ready to defend himself because i think Danzo knows how to hurt him

You may be right though

 

[Michael92]

If you take a close look, it looks like he`s halfway in using a teleportation tech on Sasuke, cause you can se his face going dementional, but suddenly he stops. Perhaps he could sense that Sasuke where going to use Susano, right before he used it

And what`s up with the "release" Danzo uses? It didn`t do anything. Did he release the seal Sasuke had broken, or maybe it had something to do with him releasing the Mokton out of his arm or something. Can`t really remember when he used it.

 

[Pervyy]

If you take a close look, it looks like he`s halfway in using a teleportation tech on Sasuke, cause you can se his face going dementional, but suddenly he stops. Perhaps he could sense that Sasuke where going to use Susano, right before he used it

And what`s up with the "release" Danzo uses? It didn`t do anything. Did he release the seal Sasuke had broken, or maybe it had something to do with him releasing the Mokton out of his arm or something. Can`t really remember when he used it.

The release is a fobidden technique, you know kakuzu had 5 hearts because he had 5 masks? Its kind of what the sharringan on danzo repressent, and when hes about to die he has to release one and then an eye closes

 

[Michael92]

One thing is certain. If The people of Konoha finds out what Danzo has been up too, then there`s no way he can talk himself out of it.

1: He probobly helped Madara attack Konoha with the 9 tail when the fourt sacrifised himself.
If so, he probobly did this to his own gain.

2: He helped Orochimaru killing Konoha townsmen, so that Orochimaru could experiment with them. This is what Orochimaru became a missing-nin for.

3: He helped Madara and Itachi kill of the Uchiha clan, so that he could get body parts, eyes, and a forbidden jutsu.

4: He helped Orochimaru in the attack of Konoha during the Chuunin exam.

5: He didn`t help out during the Pain invation, because he wanted the Hokage tittle.

If all of these crimes turn out to be true, then there should be obvious what the village will do?

He might think that he`s doing what`s best for the village, but is there any doubt?

If he doesn`t get punished for all or any of these crimes, then who will


And some mentioned Kakashi in root?xd

I think you`re mixing Anbu root and the original Anbu which Kakashi and Yamato was a part of.

Anbu root is controlled by Danzo and is a small section in Anbu that doesn`t have anything to do with the Anbu it self, sort of.

The Anbu is lead by the Hokage and the village`s elders i think

 

[Whiteknight]

but hold on
if danzo and orochimaru were working together
howcome danzou let orochimaru invade da leaf and kill the 3rd even though he would do dirty stuff to protect konoha (as sai mentioned in chapter 452 page 9)
doesnt make any sense

Remember after Pain attacked and Tsunade was in a coma, Danzou said that the third and fourth Hokages were focusing too much on peace, letting konoha become weak, and putting the village in danger.

Danzou would have wanted the third hokage out of the way so he could put in somebody more militaristic like Orochimaru or himself.

 

[Whiteknight]

And what`s up with the "release" Danzo uses? It didn`t do anything. Did he release the seal Sasuke had broken, or maybe it had something to do with him releasing the Mokton out of his arm or something. Can`t really remember when he used it.

Danzou is using some sort of illusion jutsu, which is why Sasuke can't kill him. Karin detected that his illusion jutsu protected him from death but used a lot of chakra. He had to release the jutsu to save chakra, but when he released it he was vulnerable again. This is why Karin yelled to Sasuke that he could be killed.

Once he used his mysterious Jutsu again, he couldn't be killed by Susanoo's arrow.

 

[Naruto Power]

that manga was good suprize after suprize.

of course danzo help Oro it was stated in the manga that oro gained danzo by offering him the title of the 5th holkage.

cant remember who said oro was above the level of the teacher "the 3rd" but your full of it. the only way oro won was by getting the corpse of the 1st and 2nd to fight. this is the only thing that saved his life by the hand of the 3rd for thesecond time. if oro was stronger or better then the 3rd he would of also finished his move by getting the 4th out to fight.

but to show how strong the 3rd was.
he was know as the teacher because he had mastered all the techs of the village includeing the forbidden scroll naruto stole. left by the 4th i beleive. why and how he knew naruto could open the seal with it there for stateing the 4th and the sealing tech knowledge was there. this is how he kicked oro down. also with out ever seeing a bringing the dead back to life tech he stopped it. who else in the manga has done anything close to that.

so now we have to wood users just like the sharigan and the beasts its becoming commen

I think kohonamaru will get the monkey summon for his grandfather and use the staff at some point in the manga.

also i said it before and im saying it again
naruto will get his hands on the toad key for the seal and he will get his hands on the scoll he stole that has given him his best tech. I also think this scroll may have the flash step tech in it. just to highlight what is the best tech and why shadow clones. why because surprize, recon, knowledge, training, and he needed them to help on all power moves.

 

[Whiteknight]

cant remember who said oro was above the level of the teacher "the 3rd" but your full of it. the only way oro won was by getting the corpse of the 1st and 2nd to fight. this is the only thing that saved his life by the hand of the 3rd for thesecond time. if oro was stronger or better then the 3rd he would of also finished his move by getting the 4th out to fight.

but to show how strong the 3rd was.
he was know as the teacher because he had mastered all the techs of the village includeing the forbidden scroll naruto stole. left by the 4th i beleive. why and how he knew naruto could open the seal with it there for stateing the 4th and the sealing tech knowledge was there. this is how he kicked oro down. also with out ever seeing a bringing the dead back to life tech he stopped it. who else in the manga has done anything close to that.

The two fought and Orochimaru won. How else do you measure strength? Orochimaru knew a powerful technique that could bring the dead back to life to fight. The third Hokage was only able to seal away one of these corpses. Otherwise he might have lost the fight faster. And remember, the third summoned additional help to the battle, Orochimaru wasn't the only one who brought help, but his help was stronger.

Orochimaru knew many jutsus too, and he was very powerful. The third Hokage traded his life for Orochimaru's arms. Hardly seems fair if the third was more powerful.

The third Hokage was a nicer person and a better leader for the village, but when they fought he was not more powerful than Orochimaru.

 

[John Constantine]

The two fought and Orochimaru won. How else do you measure strength? Orochimaru knew a powerful technique that could bring the dead back to life to fight. The third Hokage was only able to seal away one of these corpses. Otherwise he might have lost the fight faster. And remember, the third summoned additional help to the battle, Orochimaru wasn't the only one who brought help, but his help was stronger.

Orochimaru knew many jutsus too, and he was very powerful. The third Hokage traded his life for Orochimaru's arms. Hardly seems fair if the third was more powerful.

The third Hokage was a nicer person and a better leader for the village, but when they fought he was not more powerful than Orochimaru.

Agreed 100%.. Don't know about Sarutobi on his prime but in their fight Orochimaru was way,way superior without even trying to hard..

 

[Whiteknight]

My prediction for this Sasuke-Danzou fight:

I don't think Sasuke is going to win the fight. He might get close, but he's not going to Kill Danzou right now.

Danzou is a schemer. He makes plans and puts things into motion in advance. He created a whole army of his own (Anbu Root), has put together a body that seems designed to control the Kyuubi, and could still be in the running to become the next official Hokage. Right now he's only a temporary Hokage and people from other countries don't like him, but that's a small issue. Danzou is a war hawk and would welcome a war with other countries as a way to increase the power of Konoha.

Also, we saw at the Kage summit that he was trying to become the leader of all nations in the upcoming war. Danzou is a man with big plans and big aspirations. He's not going to fight to the death against Sasuke right now, and if he looks like he's going to lose he'll run away.

From a narrative perspective, Danzou is too central: He has participated in too many events, is involved with too many people, and knows too many secrets. Kishi won't kill him off before he can spill a few beans. So far during this fight Danzou hasn't done too much talking (and Sasuke hasn't done too much listening either), so this isn't the time when Danzou is going to reveal anything important.

I think Danzou is going to run away.

Lots of people are looking for Sasuke, and he's spent too much chakra fighting Danzou to start another fight. Madara could help him escape, but Sasuke's revenge drive won't let him leave Danzou alive on the field. The only way Sasuke will leave without getting in another fight would be for Danzou to escape.

Hopefully Sasuke, Karin and Madara can learn the secret of his illusion Justu before he goes.

 

[Whiteknight]

Agreed 100%.. Don't know about Sarutobi on his prime but in their fight Orochimaru was way,way superior without even trying to hard..

Very true. We don't know how the third Hokage was in his prime. But at the time of the fight, Orochimaru won and Sarutobi lost. A little bit of time travel and things might have been different.

 

[culinaryg]

can someone try and explain what izanagi is? in naruto terms of attack n origin not the myth