[Predictions] Naruto Manga 478 Discussion and 479 Predictions

[Pervyy]

I agree with most of what you said and in some way your post completes mine and i think i'm gonna actually open a thread in this subject with both of our posts combined if you agree because most posters around here understimate how powerfull akatuski actually was..​

Message me with a link if you do

Also vote on my thread about which akatsuki member is the best

 

[hugocruzz]

I also want to add that i'm kinda wondering how can Danzou execute such technique as Izanagi..

Let's suppose Izanagi is an even stronger technique then the big four: Tsukuyomi,the never ending holly black flames of Amaterasu,the abilitie of Kagutsuchi & the sacred god of Susano'o..

I have to assume that Danzou possesses the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan (also makes it possible to control the Kyuubi and reinforces that theory as well)..Or at least the Mangekyo Sharingan..

But how and why??

People should not be complaning about this chapter,this was a fantastic chapter who raised many questions and theories..

People actually should be gratefull to Kishimoto..

So what if Itachi was just a Tsukuyomi?? I'm a super-Itachi fan and i'm not bother. What Kishimoto displayed next was far better and interesting..

Itachi is dead,guys.. Get over it.. We Itachi fans should be happy our personal favourite character had the best arc and meaninful,epic death in whole series so far.. (Jiraiya's was pretty meaninfull and epic as well,though)

hello everyone, normally i'm more a reader than a writer, but i have to congratulate you because you know how to write, all your setences make sense. And congrats also for your big intelligence and memory, because you appear to remember every detail of the manga since the beginning. About your question about danzo, i think he can have ms like kakashi has but is weird that he hadn't use any technique that require ms so far, is he avoiding the pain from ms?
form other side i think it's weird that he has ms but hasn't the knowledge about the susano's seal and improvement, what do you think? cheers

 

[Whiteknight]

Naruto would beat sasuke if it was a fight to the death, just for the simple fact that i believe in him, he has the power to change the world

All ms abilities seem to cause pain to the users with blood coming from there eyes or coughing up blood, and to obtain them you have to suffer by killing someone close to you like your best friend or brother...

Sasuke didn't suffer. At least, not directly. Sasuke wanted to kill Itachi before he even knew about the Mangekyo. Sasuke could have killed Naruto in the Valley of the End in order to get Mangekyo, but chose not to.

 

[yoshimitsu]

I agree with most of what you said and in some way your post completes mine and i think i'm gonna actually open a thread in this subject with both of our posts combined if you agree because most posters around here understimate how powerfull akatuski actually was..​

ya sure. i've been looking for such a thread to vent. some users carelessly say things without thinking it through, or taking the time and effort to understand a few things.

 

[Pervyy]

Sasuke didn't suffer. At least, not directly. Sasuke wanted to kill Itachi before he even knew about the Mangekyo. Sasuke could have killed Naruto in the Valley of the End in order to get Mangekyo, but chose not to.

Your telling me that its not going to hurt if your eyes are bleeding? lol
Also you see sasuke suffer like when he uses amaterasu because after he uses it he grabs his bleeding eye in pain

 

[Shunsui]

I disagree strongely you obviously don't imagine how powerful those Akatsuky guys were..

Let's start with Sasori of The Red Sands.. This men was a experienced warrior about 40 years old. Cold,intelligent and the men who kidknapped and killed the most powerful warrior of the Sand Village at only 15 years old. That men was the Third Kazekage.
He was also said to have alone destroyed an entire country..
He only lost because Old Chiyo knew all his secrets and Sakura had the antidote..
This guy is easily stronger then most of the characters and probably even stronger then Kakashi..

Deidara,a 19 years old prodigy.. Easily defeated Gaara (who is very strong) and took Sasuke (who is mega-strong) to his limit.. Only guys with Sharingan or eye techniques could beat him in my opinion..

Hidan..I'll give you that one. Guy is not weak and managed to kill Asuma (strong guy) but was stupid as whole hell and a guy with an half a brain and decent strenght could easily defeat him..

Kakuzu was 90+ years old. Experienced,intelligent,fought the Hashirama and survived and beat many strong ninjas ans stole them hearts. Making them his own.
Easily manhandled Kakashi (one of the strongest) and if it wasn't for Naruto's super jutsu Futton RasenShuriken,he would have not been defeated..
Kakuzu was easily one of the strongest guys in the Naruto series.

Kisame was almost invencible. I dare to say only Genjutsu users could beat him and perhaps Jiraiya (as Kisame himself admitted he would be no match for Jiraiya)..
Kisame had the chacra of a bijuu and the best weapon in the Ninja world (IMO).. A weapon that can take chacra from his opponents and give it to Kisame.. How much can you ask for it??
Kisame easily defeated Kirabi,if it wasn't for Samehada's betrayal..
And he is not dead yet,guys. Bet on it..

Orochimaru is understimated around here to the fullest.. This man was probably stronger then most of the Akatsuki and was only easily defeated by Itachi because the later has god-like strenght and abilitie.
Oro was a genius and a legendary Sannin said to be equally strong as Jiraiya himself (one of the strongest of the Manga).. Possessed many abilities,forbidden jutsus,legendary objects and was super smart & the perfect villain in my opinion..
He fought the Kyuubi with ease in an already neglecting body and killed the said to be the strongest of the 5 Hokages, The Third Hokage easily. He also killed the Fourth Kazekage (Gaara's father) and draw 2 times with Jiraiya.
This was one of the most feared,respected ninjas in the Ninja world and was only defeated by Sasuke because he was barely moving at his current body and was target of a sneak attack.

Konan was the weakest link in my opinion.. Was easily defeated by Jiraiya with only one move and was in the Organization only because of Pein..

Zetsu. We don't know the extend of his power but he has many useful abilities and Madara himself treat him as an equal. So i assume he is super strong as well..

With all this said..You theory about Akatsuki members kind of fail.. Those were all guys of S-Ninja Rank and were only defeated by Special bloodline (AKA Sharingan,Deidara & Orochimaru) or betrayal (Kisame) or knowing their secrets before hand (Pein & Sasori) or stupidity (Hidan) or disease and intentional intent of dying (Itachi)..

couldnt agree more

the wey Akatsuki members died was unlucky = aka stupid

 

[Pervyy]

couldnt agree more

the wey Akatsuki members died was unlucky = aka stupid

Not all of them died in a stupid way, kakuzu died in a good way, he fought honourably and lost 2 out of 5 lives in a good fight, then naruto turned upo with a new epic technique and showed his power which was a good death to be honest.

Hidans death was stupid.

Pains death was good and bad but i guess he should of died as naruto proved himself by beating all 6 paths of pain but also he was like a demi god.

Itachis death wasnt stupid

sasori shouldnt of been killed by sakura that was stupid in my eyes

deidara's death was epic in my eyes, it helped to show that you dont need to have the sharringan to be a match for it, i know you think sasuke was playing but if he didnt have manda he would of been dead

kisames death was lame in my eyes


Ahhh well just some of my views

 

[John Constantine]

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Also vote on my thread about which akatsuki member is the best

Just created it.. Essencialy it's only mine and yoshimitsu posts combined but hopefully will generate a good discussion around it..
It's in this section..

 

[Whiteknight]

About the chapter.. Was a really good chapter with a really huge twist. Danzoo is super interesting and just like i suspected he was in works with Orochimaru for a very long time.. (No wonder Orochimaru was always informed about Konoha even beinf far away from the village)..​

Yes, a lot of things make more sense now. I'm going to go re-read the chapters about Orochimaru's attack on Konoha again with the new facts in mind.

Let me start to say that i was a little bit disappointed that Itachi (my favourite) was a barely genjutsu​

Yes, I'm very angry about this myself. We spent 3 weeks hoping Itachi was alive, and it turns out it was a Genjutsu. It wasn't even a good genjutsu. Poor Itachi.

It's also quite interesting that he could be the one behind the "Kyuubi Incident" (as Madara denies it was he himself).. It's not impossible for him to have transplanted one or some sharingans before the "incident" and managed to control the Kyuubi since he also possesses the First Hokage's DNA (known for being able to control the tailed beasts)..​

I don't think Danzou was in charge of the kyuubi attack. Danzou wouldn't have had all his Sharingans back then, and probably hadn't been in touch with Orochimaru enough to get the Mokuton DNA yet. I don't know about all the timing, did Orochimaru leave the village before the Kyuubi attack? I think he must have but I can't find proof.

Danzou also seems to be pretty interested in get Naruto..But why??
He obviously has a much more easier contact to him as they live in the same village and could have got his hands to Naruto anytime if he wanted too by this time..​

This is an interesting question. It is mentioned several times that Danzou is a hardliner who wants to protect the village through militaristic might. We've also seen, for instance, that Danzou wanted to keep Naruto in the village so he would be safe from Akatsuki. I have a few guesses:

1) Danzou wants to use Naruto as a weapon, control him to be an "ultimate defense" for the village or an "ultimate weapon" against a particular enemy.

2) Danzou wants to stage a Kyuubi attack on the villiage, show up as the miracle savior, and become Hokage.

3) Danzou wants to use the Kyuubi as a weapon against Konoha to force them to make him Hokage

4) Even bigger: Danzou wants to use the Kyuubi somehow for even more power: Become king of the land of fire. He could attack with the Kyuubi and hold the whole country hostage.

5) Danzou likes to steal body parts for personal power. The Kyuubi chakra is poisonous and causes Naruto's chakra to grow. Maybe Danzo wants to steal parts of Naruto's body to make his own chakra increase. With Orochimaru technology, this would be possible.

6) Think much bigger: Danzou knows Orochimaru and (we can guess) the plans of Akatsuki. Maybe Danzou wants the ten-tails for himself. Wait for Akatsuki to collect 8 beasts, force Naruto to stay in the village, take the 8 beasts from Akatsuki's statue, and then he already has Naruto. ten-tails + sharingan = Madara's ultimate moon thingy.

My problem with these theories is that Jinchuriki are relatively common. If Danzou unleashed the fox as a weapon of some sort, another powerful ninja could seal it away into a different human host, making Danzou's plans fail. He could cause lots of destruction against an enemy (Option #1 above), but he couldn't use the fox for a prolonged seige because somebody else would seal it away.

Lots to think about here.​

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[John Constantine]

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Also vote on my thread about which akatsuki member is the best

Sorry for the double-post..I also voted Itachi on your thread. Which i would explain why in my thread..
Was kinda biased,could have gone for either Itachi or Pein... xd​

 

[Whiteknight]

Your telling me that its not going to hurt if your eyes are bleeding? lol
Also you see sasuke suffer like when he uses amaterasu because after he uses it he grabs his bleeding eye in pain

Sasuke does hurt physically from the techniques, but he didn't suffer emotionally to get MS like other users would. He didn't have to kill his friend, and he already wanted to kill his brother.

 

[Pervyy]

Sasuke does hurt physically from the techniques, but he didn't suffer emotionally to get MS like other users would. He didn't have to kill his friend, and he already wanted to kill his brother.

Technically he did suffer when he learnt the truth, look at the chapters when madara explaing the truth to him what emotional agony he is in, that seems to be the same thing

 

[Pervyy]

Sorry for the double-post..I also voted Itachi on your thread. Which i would explain why in my thread..
Was kinda biased,could have gone for either Itachi or Pein... xd​

I can guess why you would pick either of them but im going to keep active on your thread because i love the Akatsuki

 

[John Constantine]

I don't think Danzou was in charge of the kyuubi attack. Danzou wouldn't have had all his Sharingans back then, and probably hadn't been in touch with Orochimaru enough to get the Mokuton DNA yet. I don't know about all the timing, did Orochimaru leave the village before the Kyuubi attack? I think he must have but I can't find proof.

If we get the timmings.. We could dig deeper into this theory..Very interesting indeed..

 

[culinaryg]

whats next danzo with a black mans penis?


um....its good to see there are levels of tsukiyomi ( meaning hell achieve the one pass itachi [did anyone see that foreshadowing?] ).

danzo mightve finished off shodai while he was alive to claim his victory against Madara. or helped madara escape without notice while he was getting shodai's cells

madara should just do an interview with entertainment tonight so he can explain everything he knows about danzo n oro and him connection to get it over with

prediction
danzo does everything he does to win while near or chakra limits. finally shows his / Shisui's powers.

more on susanoos real powers
i believe that wasnt all his powers (i want itachis sword )

 

[John Constantine]

Sasuke does hurt physically from the techniques, but he didn't suffer emotionally to get MS like other users would. He didn't have to kill his friend, and he already wanted to kill his brother.

He suffered emotional trauma after knowing the truth about Itachi.. It became clear for him that Itachi was everything for him and his closest person in the whole world..Thus,awakening his mangekyo Sharingan..

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[Pervyy]

whats next danzo with a black mans penis?


um....its good to see there are levels of tsukiyomi ( meaning hell achieve the one pass itachi [did anyone see that foreshadowing?] ).

danzo mightve finished off shodai while he was alive to claim his victory against Madara. or helped madara escape without notice while he was getting shodai's cells

madara should just do an interview with entertainment tonight so he can explain everything he knows about danzo n oro and him connection to get it over with

prediction
danzo does everything he does to win while near or chakra limits. finally shows his / Shisui's powers.

more on susanoos real powers
i believe that wasnt all his powers (i want itachis sword )

Lol dude your a funny guy, reps for making me laugh

 

[Zoldyck]

theres 1 thing that I still dont understand
what was the point of danzous fuuton on page 8?
what a random move

 

[John Constantine]

hello everyone, normally i'm more a reader than a writer, but i have to congratulate you because you know how to write, all your setences make sense. And congrats also for your big intelligence and memory, because you appear to remember every detail of the manga since the beginning. About your question about danzo, i think he can have ms like kakashi has but is weird that he hadn't use any technique that require ms so far, is he avoiding the pain from ms?
form other side i think it's weird that he has ms but hasn't the knowledge about the susano's seal and improvement, what do you think? cheers

Thanks a lot. English is not even my "mother tongue" xd
I wonder this myself.. He must has Mangekyo Sharingan or even as far as an Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan to use the 4th forbidden jutsu of the cursed Uchiha Clan,Izanagi. But at the same time he ain't using any of the Mangekyo Techniques either the Holly never ending black flames of Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi or even Kamui..
Either,he's playing smart as experienced as he is and he's going straight to the point with his ultimate technique to finish the job quicker or every Mangekyo has different techniques or there's more to it and it's something related to Shisui Uchiha's powers..
Either way we can only speculate at this point..
Thanks again,mate..

 

[Kuroi Honoo]

lol, I don't know who moneyezz is, but hey, I'm new
I don't really care about you liking Sasuke, and no, danzo is far from my fav, Kisame kinda died ( or did he? ).
And besides, Sasuke's Susanoo is NOT completed
Look at itachi's it has 2 states, with the one simulair to Sasuke's as the mid state
And yes, I hate Sasuke, obviously. for obvious reasons.

I never said it for you to care and the manga chapter claims just the opposite; Sasuke's Susano'o, Completed!. That's just fine, I have come across many Sasuke haters and I expected as much.

Lol I'm not blaming the character. I'm blaming Kishi. haha I used to think the sharingan was cool. And I'm all for Sasuke and whomever else with the sharingan to use it to their full potential. That's fine. But every month or so the sharingan has more secrets and more jutsus and so on.
The three justsu's MS gave it's user were more than enough I say lol. But that's my opinion.
So I guess this new technique won't bother me that much if Kishi promises that it's the last one.

Okay, but that is how the Sharingan is. I mean what if Naruto had something similar, would you be just as upset that his tech kept on sprouting out something new? Besides, all Sasuke has accomplished is the completion of his Susanoo and is using what it has to offer, I see no new power it was just be expeted as every fight it continued to progress in evolution.

I don't mind Itachi being dead, but to make Itachi fans wait 3 weeks on tenterhooks to have it be some little shitty whim of a tsukyomi by gayboy is just ****ing obscene.

Pissed me off, its ruining the memory of an awesome character.

instead he'd rather write about some emo gayboy and his wannabe girlfriend repeat how his chakra is dark (racist bitch)

Okay, dude calm down, I don't know what happened to you, seriously but to call Sasuke ?emo gayboy? and his girlfriend Karin a racist bitch is pretty childish and ridiculous, wouldn't you agree? I mean dislike/hate the characters but please refrain from this vile manner. It is very insolent to the fans/supporters and the character. I dislike Naruto/Ichigo/Luffy but I don't go trolling around like a immature grottomon spewing hateful things.

I'm pissed off because meanwhile Sasuke getting all these new techniques my favourite character is crying on the floor like some stupid bitch.

Please, Sasuke only completed his uncompleted Susanoo (which was to be expected) and wow your favorite character is Naruto though you call him all that? Mine is Sasuke and I might not agree with his poor decisions but I don't go around slurring/thinking such thoughts about him.

Man, Sasuke and Kishi are getting a beating. To all those people bashing Sasuke; I don't get it. I mean, Kishi took a genius, and instead of making him a weak, frightened bookworm character as typical, he gave Sasuke an edge and made him a dangerous, focused weapon. And nobody else respects that? I was always glad that Kishi took an axe to the traditional genius archetype and decided to show everyone what these people are capable of once their handicaps are removed. THIS is what happens; A teenager who can take on the greatest powers and minds in the ninja world. Don't be surprised. And come on, even if he doesn't have a physical flaw, you can't deny that he's full of metaphorical disease. It's not that bad a chapter, people were wrong, I was wrong, but we'll get over it.

O btw just wanna add that I'm not a Sasuke fanboy...guess it must sound like I am tho, lol.

Nice dude, you blew me away with this post of yours. Where is the teetooktier I first debated with over your minor bashing of Sasuke?

3) tobi stands like let me jus sit up to be safe

Maybe his arse itched or hurt from sitting in the same spot for a while (sarcasm ends lol).

an1 else have the feeling that saskue is guna obtain izangi like gt another powerup

How is this possible? It is a forbidden tech like Madara said so how can Sasuke attain this as a powerup when he should instead have to learn it?

I just think it's about time to rename the Manga into "The Chronicles of Sasuke"

Wow, that is really imature of you to say. Why don't you rather cease in reading the manga if your so disgusted.

Itachi is on a whole different level-Itachi comes out significantly better eye usage.

2 out of 3 Itachi trumps Sasukes eye techs.







No, use YOUR head, that story about the 4th technique was about ETERNAL MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN, and as we can see danzou does not have that.

I wasnt disapointed it was a good chapter, it kind of showed how sasuke isnt as good as itachi with msn, it showed how twisted danzo is, showed madaras analysis and once again sasuke got another power though =/

Dude, I think he meant that the fourth Mangekyou Sharingan tech would've been like for example Kakashi's Kamui and of course Itachi was more professional with the Mangekyou, have you and The Pervy Sage forgotten that Sasuke hasn't had that new eye for long as Itachi had his?

I agree sasuke should suffer man its not fair!

More like hasn't Sasuke suffered enough? From everything in his childhood to present manga time he is still suffering. He has go day by day without his beloved family/clan and is why he is so mentally damaged and simply can't give up on his vengeance. Although he is not the first or the last charcater I've seen with a vendetta. It is in many manga so yes he might have chosen poorly how to go about it but I can understand why.

LOL ....What happen to naruto?? in the last 30 manga he did **** all...and sasuke got like 123 237 857 upgrade and new jutsu...

Again, his Susanoo finished completing, Naruto is the main character so I'm sure he will be seen soon enough.

What you guys on about, naruto is a sub plot , Its was only called naruto to distract you

Its now "The story of the sharingan and its users"

You are an obvious hater of Sasuke but to say this you just might as well stop reading the manga along with all the other people who are tired of seeing Sasuke. Listen, just because he is getting screen time at the moment doesn't mean that Naruto won't be shown. If anything, the show should have been called Naruto and Sasuke because Kishimoto created this manga literally based on those two. Anybody else are somewhat minor as the storyline plots are mostly about them. So instead of hating just quit reading.​