[Predictions] Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

[Jonesy161]

Amazing chapter, and I believe it has shed alot of light on this storyline. After reading what Madara said, I created my own conclusion. Everyone knows Madara and Sasuke are possibly the last 2 remaining sharingan users, but after what Madara said, I believe Tsunade and Naruto are the last 2 remaining true Shenju warriors. Also thinking about it, I always wondered what could have made the Shenju warrior so strong against an Uchiha, and I think I figured out that the gift the Sage of Six Paths could have given the younger son was power, higher chakra banks for stronger, more powerful jutsus. That's making a warrior that can perform insane techniques vs a warrior that has insane eyes but not as high of chakra levels. That just proves further Naruto and Tsunade are Shenju warriors, not to mention Tsunade's grandpa, I think it was, was the second hokage, who was a Shenju warrior.

I have no prediction for next chapter, but for a long run prediction, then it will be this:
Ofcourse we all know Madara and Tsunade will eventually die or be killed, leaving it down to Naruto, the last true Shenju warrior in existence, vs Sasuke, the last true Uchiha warrior in existence. For Peace in the world, they abilities either have to be one, or only one must remain standing, forcing histories only Shenju and Uchiha who became best friends unlike any others in the past, will be forced to fight to death, and whoever remains brings peace no matter what, even if it were Naruto to die. Not saying I want him to die...

-But, If Sasuke lives, he'll destroy everything that brought him hatred, untill his mental state finally achieves that goal and he can settle down, but living as a tyrant with his immense powers, where no one will defy him, so that means they'll just cower in a corner but violence, wars, etc. is all gone.

-If Naruto lives, then he'll accept anything that hates him, and work to become friends like he always does, making him a great leader, kind one.

It's a cheap prediction, but I can really see the story line heading to this, as it fits both personalities of each Sasuke and Naruto, and Madara even said that most likely, fate will force Naruto and Sasuke to fight one another.

 

[DarkSakuraAngel736]

I think that after a few more panels of talking Madara is going to teleport out of there and see how Kisame is doing on his hunt for the 8-tails. He isn't going to capture Naruto yet because the biju need to be sealed in order. Kisame says this here

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As for the Raikage vs. Sasuke fight I believe it will be interuppted. We don't know much about Raikage and they have info on Sasuke and there is no telling just how much info they have.

 

[Jonesy161]

I also had a wierd feeling about Pein... I mean, he didn't serve much purpose in the mangas to think of it. All we knew about him at the beginning was he was the leader of Akatsuki, but he was under Madara's control. He also fought Naruto and changed his ideals there, but died. Nothing happened with Pein to further advance the manga. My guess would be this though.

-Sage of Six Paths, who possessed the rinnegan, had his 2 sons.
-His 2 sons, as in the past, they are usually best friends. One had strength and love. Other possessed the eyes of power.
-Sage needs a successor, he chooses the young son with love and strength and gives him a gift that was unknown.
-Brews hatred, Young son become insanely strong, older son now hates his brother.

That matches Naruto and Sasuke alot.
-Pein, who possessed the rinnegan, but had no son. But he did have a gift.
-Two seem to match the ideals for the gift, Sasuke and Naruto.
-Sasuke and Naruto are/were best friends.
-Pein gives Naruto a gift before Pein dies.
-Naruto loves people, and he has strength.
-Sasuke does not love people, but has the insane eyes.

Who knows what gift Naruto got, but I'm sure after the years, even though naruto might be a Shenju warrior, there might have been another part to the gift that was lost over time. Pein probably reinstated it or regave it to Naruto. Now Naruto has an unknown gift from Itachi, and an unknown gift from Pein. Could the 2 gifts clash with one another? or could they combine, creating some new power no one has ever seen before? Can't wait till it's finally shown...

 

[RikudoSage]

ANSWER 1: It was because Uchiha clan betrayed Madara and Madara leaved(manga 399, page 08-09). He fought 1st hokage and lost, everyone thought he was dead. (manga 399, page 12)

ANSWER 2. Yes he know. (manga 400 page 09)

lol cheers forgot about those, but now you say it it does make sense again

omg i really cant wait to find out more about the what madara has to say

 

[narutosharingan]

why r people sayin that pein gave naruto a gift (power) i never read anythin about this in the manga or did i miss it

 

[rasenchidori]

Amazing chapter, and I believe it has shed alot of light on this storyline. After reading what Madara said, I created my own conclusion. Everyone knows Madara and Sasuke are possibly the last 2 remaining sharingan users, but after what Madara said, I believe Tsunade and Naruto are the last 2 remaining true Shenju warriors. Also thinking about it, I always wondered what could have made the Shenju warrior so strong against an Uchiha, and I think I figured out that the gift the Sage of Six Paths could have given the younger son was power, higher chakra banks for stronger, more powerful jutsus. That's making a warrior that can perform insane techniques vs a warrior that has insane eyes but not as high of chakra levels. That just proves further Naruto and Tsunade are Shenju warriors, not to mention Tsunade's grandpa, I think it was, was the second hokage, who was a Shenju warrior.

I have no prediction for next chapter, but for a long run prediction, then it will be this:
Ofcourse we all know Madara and Tsunade will eventually die or be killed, leaving it down to Naruto, the last true Shenju warrior in existence, vs Sasuke, the last true Uchiha warrior in existence. For Peace in the world, they abilities either have to be one, or only one must remain standing, forcing histories only Shenju and Uchiha who became best friends unlike any others in the past, will be forced to fight to death, and whoever remains brings peace no matter what, even if it were Naruto to die. Not saying I want him to die...

-But, If Sasuke lives, he'll destroy everything that brought him hatred, untill his mental state finally achieves that goal and he can settle down, but living as a tyrant with his immense powers, where no one will defy him, so that means they'll just cower in a corner but violence, wars, etc. is all gone.

-If Naruto lives, then he'll accept anything that hates him, and work to become friends like he always does, making him a great leader, kind one.

It's a cheap prediction, but I can really see the story line heading to this, as it fits both personalities of each Sasuke and Naruto, and Madara even said that most likely, fate will force Naruto and Sasuke to fight one another.

tsunade was the grandaughter of the 1st hokage

 

[rasenchidori]

why r people sayin that pein gave naruto a gift (power) i never read anythin about this in the manga or did i miss it

i don't remember that either. the only gift pein gave to naruto was the reviving of the people he kille in the village.. correct?

 

[rasenchidori]

I think that the naruto vs sasuke fight would take like 10 chapter or more.

 

[big nebulus]

JUGOOOO WAS THE SHIIIT

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wanna see all kages in action
and hopefully tobi will fight naruto again so he does not interfere with saskue
but tobi acutally looks like a nice guy for sm reason and he & naruto where having a decent calm chat
well almost clam

all i can say is that every protagnist from every manga leaves sumthing
lik GOku & kenshin & yuskue urameshii woootxd

I doubt Madara is really a nice guy. A few chapters ago he said he was about to put some "plan" in place when he was talking to Zetsu. I think ultimately he told Sauske what he wanted him to hear and now he's telling Naruto what he needs to hear to manipulate him as well. While I believe what he said is true, I doubt he's doing it to be "nice". He wants something (most likely complete control), but how he's trying to achieve that by telling everyone this stuff is a mystery.

 

[big nebulus]

I think that after a few more panels of talking Madara is going to teleport out of there and see how Kisame is doing on his hunt for the 8-tails. He isn't going to capture Naruto yet because the biju need to be sealed in order. Kisame says this here

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.

As for the Raikage vs. Sasuke fight I believe it will be interuppted. We don't know much about Raikage and they have info on Sasuke and there is no telling just how much info they have.

WHat do you think will happen when everyone finds out that Sauske didn't kill the 8 tails? Will the Raikage still want revenge?

 

[big nebulus]

Not even 24hrs but 5 pages already, i guess the manga is good. Kishi is always making us confused. May be that's one part of his job who knows.
About Naruto being a senju, its possible but we still got too few informations. If he had been a Senju, i think Naruto's bloodline limit will be wood element(though his father's technique is also possible, its quite difficult to predict). Also Rikudo Sage will be like his foregrandfather. So, he and Sasuke may be able to use all the basic elements. If so, its obvious that they will be quite powerful. Exaclty like the first hokage and madara.
But there will be a difference between Naruto and Sasuke(many people believed that Sasuke will not come back and will be the final villain). The difference is this : First hokage and Madara, Jiraiya and Orochimaru, but Naruto doesn't believe in fate or destiny. We often see in the manga and the movies as well that Naruto always change the fate or destiny(what ppl assumed) of others (himself too). So, Naruto's gonna change this fate. Peace will dominate hatred. So, Naruto's gonna bring back Sasuke because 'That's the promise of his lifetime'

I've thought about that a lot, about Naruto bringing Sauske back to the village. But Madara has a point in that he hated the 1st more than anything and I believe that Sauske ultimately hates Naruto most even though deep down he at the same time has some love for him. I think that Naruto will keep his promise to Sakura and bring Sauske back, but I think Sauske will be dead and Naruto will bring his body back to Konoha to be buried. Sauske is already feeling some of the pain of the Sharingan (notice how he holds his left eye after trapping that guy in the Genjutsu). Before dying I believe Sauske will tell Naruto his true feelings about him, and that will be the change we see.

 

[big nebulus]

So like the whole byakugan thing... it was said that sharingan came from the byakugan wasnt it, in earlier eps or chapters.

About the sasuke vs naruto, i think, yes, it will come down to them but still not the final battle, madara will eventually be taken down but i think it will be from sasuke converting to narutos ideals of peace and eventually sasuke will then want revenge against madara, naruto and sasuke changing fate to kill madara and akatsuki forever.

Also about naruto and nagato, nagato said he was or gave naruto a last parting gift but no one knows what that is just yet, which eventually could be a form of rinnengan but not the actual one.

Also something that has been bugging me, answer if you want or can:
1. Madara was the one who helped itachi kill the uchiha clan, why would he help kill his own clan when he wanted it to be best again instead of help the revolutionary that was building in the clan?

2. Does sasuke know that it was madara who helped?
because then sasuke will want revenge against madara also. (this also leading again to maybe sasuke and naruto getting madara.)

(wow that was long )
shodaimeicon: :nindaime: :naruto: Senju Forever

I've asked the same question before. Madara is telling both Sauske and Naruto "his" version of what went down with Itachi, but never once has he mentioned his role in the whole process. When Sauske fought Itachi, he asked him that. He told Itachi that he couldn't have killed all those people himself.

I think Madara wanted to kill the clan because most of then probably didn't believe in the revenge he sought against Konoha.

 

[EstarothAvestas]

Chapter 462 / Page 12 : The younger (Senju) was born with the Sage's "BODY"... and was gifted with his life force and physical energy. He believed love was the key to peace.

Didn't mention anything about eye technique.

Wowow...nice ur quite perceptive...yeh ur right. Thanks for clearing it up

 

[stigie78]

I've asked the same question before. Madara is telling both Sauske and Naruto "his" version of what went down with Itachi, but never once has he mentioned his role in the whole process. When Sauske fought Itachi, he asked him that. He told Itachi that he couldn't have killed all those people himself.

I think Madara wanted to kill the clan because most of then probably didn't believe in the revenge he sought against Konoha.

im with you. kishi needs to start putting some light on so many questions that are still loosed. im really more interested on why was itachi ill and spilling blood during sasuke's fight. who did he fight with before his death? that really intrigues me.

 

[narutosharingan]

Since no one answered my question i'm askin it again is it possible to have a second stage of sage mode like oro curse seal and if sage mode uses natural chakra will he able to use all elements?

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

of course destiny and fate... neji was right.

It would be odd for them to be doomed by fate... unless Kishi wants to show that Naruto can turn fate round.

Nothing has yet shown us that Sasuke hates Naruto (he tried to kill him, but just because he was angry at Naruto's request not to kill Itachi). So far, Sasuke has been terribly jelous of him, and has even said he was his best friend, though always surrounded by violence. Will Sasuke say "I hate you, Naruto?"

Anyway, this is a story by Madara... he will speak out what is convenient for him.

lol it might be there fate to fight like madara and shodaime but naruto will change dat fate i know dat sasuke will turn good and no one is going to die for that to happen naruto and sasuke will fight but its not going to turn out how people expect

I do hope you're right. I hope Naruto is there to change the destiny of the clans. Sasuke has never said "I hate you, Naruto".

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

yeh dat would b intense.....now dat we no naruto has senju blood and the 1st hokage could control tailed beast n madarra can control tailed beast too i think this is setting up 4 a naruto vs saskuke wth both of em controling all the tailed beast in an epic battle WOW

really great chap... i love how kishi really ties the story and past together in naruto

We don't know if he has Senju blood.. it's just Madara's thought. And he's not a full Senju, anyway, his mother was not from Konoha.

On page 5 what are the last 2 pictures about(i cant post links as i only made 2 posts ), is that meant to be sasuke or madara and sage naruto? hmmm kinda wierd

please comment

It's the guy who fights with Raikage against Sasuke's sharingan.

 

[Last Arcanum]

It would be odd for them to be doomed by fate... unless Kishi wants to show that Naruto can turn fate round.

Nothing has yet shown us that Sasuke hates Naruto (he tried to kill him, but just because he was angry at Naruto's request not to kill Itachi). So far, Sasuke has been terribly jelous of him, and has even said he was his best friend, though always surrounded by violence. Will Sasuke say "I hate you, Naruto?"

Anyway, this is a story by Madara... he will speak out what is convenient for him.



I do hope you're right. I hope Naruto is there to change the destiny of the clans. Sasuke has never said "I hate you, Naruto".

We don't know if he has Senju blood.. it's just Madara's thought. And he's not a full Senju, anyway, his mother was not from Konoha.



It's the guy who fights with Raikage against Sasuke's sharingan.

I agree with everything you just said, I couldn't have said it better myself. At least there are people out there w/ some common sense. Madara is a villainous character and it would be wise to hold doubt to what he says; he is just manipulating people across his palm as he sees fit. Although there is a chance some of what he says might be the truth, there is also a chance it could be false.​

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

Guys, I've found something interesting, a difference in the Binktopia translation of the last pannel of 462, which makes much more sense to me than the Sleepy Fans one.


Binktopia

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Sleepy Fans (the one most of us have read)

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[on_y3r_oWn]

Well, ?bout the Neji-fate-crap: Naruto will definitly crush this "fate" of hatred. If he is rly destined by fate, the last 460 chapters would have been for vain - hard to imagine
Kishi won?t say: "Hm, Naruto struggled ever since he became a ninja with fate ?n? tried to achieve his own goals. Now he?s got OWNED - there IS fate, wuhaha".

About the chapter: loved it. My prediction: Sasuke will be able to defeat Raikage, however, the other kages won?t let him just kill one of them. In this fight against the other kages, Sasuke will get his ass kicked and Naruto interferes to help him out.

PREDICTION ABOUT THE VERY LAST CHAPTER: Naruto and Sasuke are going to the Chuunin-Exam. Remember, they?re both still Genin ;-)