[Predictions] Naruto Manga 457 Discussion / 458 Predictions

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I have to say the whole madara teaming up with itachi to kill off the clan under the order of Danzo and the elders is confusing. First off if the uchihas were planning an attack isn?t this what madara wanted in the first place. I know he hated the clan for casting him aside and fallowing the first but whatever. Second Danzo and the elders must of had some serious confidence in Itachis abilities to kill the whole clan by himself. So then Itachis plan to kill the clan is to gain the support of Madara.

So what was the deal Madara would help Itachi kill the clan but he can?t attack the village or talk to Sasuke about any of this.

What I wonder is what did itachi have on madara to keep him in check.
 

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I don't think there are any other uchihas out there in a way there story line has been set up like the Saiyans, whittle down to less than a hand full.

I could see Danzo putting a missing nin order out on kakashi yamato and naruto. He could make up a million reasons why it must be done. But we are forgetting Sasuke will attack him before he even makes it back. So by then kakashi and yamato will be back in the village but naruto may be gone with :sakura: and :sai:. Also if Sasuke does attack Danzo win or lose Naruto will lose all support.
i can find 1 why he cant he isen a hokake yet and then joines wil not vote for him and the village will not betrad the hero that saved them from pain
 

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I didn't add to the arguement out of respect for the forum thread...people get pissed when you turn send the thread on a tangent about the DANZO/TOBI/MADARA...Obito?/Fugaku?..etc. My favorite so far is TOBI is actualy OBAMA!! Feel free to check out my previous posts, as I have gone into great length on why I believe that Danzou is Tobi/Madara. The poster that I commented on had some great reasons that I have alos voiced. I believe there is a thread dedicated to the debate...there should be for sure!
thanks for that, but i dont think it matters, lol no matter how many people have been silenced on this topic it always seems like someone will bring it back up in the predictions thread. i will go ahead and move my discussion of this topic to there... for now, atleast until someone says something dumb in here again
 
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thanks for that, but i dont think it matters, lol no matter how many people have been silenced on this topic it always seems like someone will bring it back up in the predictions thread. i will go ahead and move my discussion of this topic to there... for now, atleast until someone says something dumb in here again
hay clue me in what are you talking about
 

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as stated in the manga madara was itachis master.
my theory is that itachi was under madaras training for a long time. why because of the level he was always at. look when he was a kid practicing oro thought he was going to kill him self. I think when itachi became the youngest jonin madara was training him. Now my other theory itachi tells madara about the mission he has to do kill his famly. madara tells him he will help because he wants revenge on the uchita who turned their back on him and fallowed the 1st no more war. To help prove this if madara is tobi. tobi wants war why because he loves war he was the man during the great wars.

as tobi said no one leaves atkatsu. so how did oro he didn't it was planned for sasuke to go to him to train for revenge. itachi worked him into going to Oro. this would stop oro going after itachi by giving him his perfect vessel. also a test for sasuke to stop itachi kill oro. also when itachi tells sasuke about madara being his master he said madara is a shell of the ninja he used to be. so my guess is itachi looked up to him and fallowed him but seen he was now weak or he seen his true plans and was over his head so he trys to get his bro to stop him "thats why amatusra" black fire was given to him. madara being weak may support the danzo is madara thing but i dont think so. i think madara is tobi for long life and dimention warps it cost him one of his bros eyes maybe thats the eye danzo has one but think he stole it from the slaying. the reason i think to dimention warp cost him an eye because kakashi can do it but needs more training to warp his hole body like tobi.
 
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If naruto threatend him then the raikage would be furious and kill sasuke for real,
didnt u see while the raikage was walking away he looke back at naruto.
maybe it softened him up abit
or atleast now hell have sum kind of respect for naruto,
Kishi woulnt make naruto beg to him jus for the sake of it
his begging started the relationship btwn himself and the raikage
so now the raikage knows he never lets his friends down and wants peace.
How would crying miserably to one of the most powerful people In their universe earn respect?
If you put yourself into the position of the kage all you would see is some foreign underling who is trying to save the person who possibly killed your only brother, and i certainly wouldn't grant his wish or let him earn any of my respect by crying.
Hopefully someone who has risen into power in the ages of Danzo isn't a pathetic idealist. this frame of mind is only allowed to surface in Naruto's generation.
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How would crying miserably to one of the most powerful people In their universe earn respect?
If you put yourself into the position of the kage all you would see is some foreign underling who is trying to save the person who possibly killed your only brother, and i certainly wouldn't grant his wish or let him earn any of my respect by crying.
Hopefully someone who has risen into power in the ages of Danzo isn't a pathetic idealist. this frame of mind is only allowed to surface in Naruto's generation.
XDfail
OH SHI LATE REPLY TO AN EARLY POST!! :(
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I dislike all this idea that Sauske will return and have a happy family in konoha.
Even if this happens this will make the show lose all touch of relatablity, which if I remember rightly was one of the main ideas set down for the show emotionally.
Yes I think he probably will be turned from the darkside, but i think it would tied up nicely if he died happily, instead of facing naruto-like discrimination back home. I mean you're hardly likely to be welcomed with open arms after you joined Orochimaru, Akatsuki, and then tried to assassinate the Hokage.
 

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OH SHI LATE REPLY TO AN EARLY POST!! :(
MOAR RANT
I dislike all this idea that Sauske will return and have a happy family in konoha.
Even if this happens this will make the show lose all touch of relatablity, which if I remember rightly was one of the main ideas set down for the show emotionally.
Yes I think he probably will be turned from the darkside, but i think it would tied up nicely if he died happily, instead of facing naruto-like discrimination back home. I mean you're hardly likely to be welcomed with open arms after you joined Orochimaru, Akatsuki, and then tried to assassinate the Hokage.
well said, sasuke deserves that for being an idiot
 

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Look at this


SJ = Shonen Jump
MK = Masashi Kishimoto

SJ: There's many rumours regarding Madara being the absolute final villain. Is this true?

MK: Madara being the final villain is yet to be seen and I can't let that information out just yet. But he will play a big part as a villain, that's for sure.

SJ: Now that it's officially known that Yondaime is Naruto's father, will you show more of Minato?

MK: Yes, definitly. I actually wanted to reveal more about Yondaime earlier, but other characters were in development and some fights still had to be dealt with.

SJ: While we're at it... could you please tell us if Minato was the strongest shinobi that ever lived?

MK: Hmmm, it's a tricky question. As far as dead shinobis goes, then yes, he's the strongest. I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him. As far as living shinobis goes... well, without going into many details I'd have to say no. There's a couple of shinobis whose stronger than him.

SJ: Now that Itachi seems to be dead, what is Kisame going to do now?

MK: Kisame has always come off as a sidevillain whose only purpose is to travel along Itachi. But to my surprise, Kisame has gone from an unpopular character to someone whose more popular than Deidara after the Gai-fight. I won't say too much, but Kisame is a character that wont die anytime soon. I will definitly develop on his character more and possibly make him...

SJ: Make him what?

MK: It's a surprise.

I think Kisame is the actual leader of Akatsuki...nyways here's another interview i found

1. Akatsuki Leader's(not confirmed if its Pein / Madara) strength can't be matched even with 3 Sannins of the leaf.

2. There is another character in Akatsuki, and unexpected member will bring a chaos

3. One of the Akatsuki's member becomes friend/ally with Naruto

4. Naruto's seal will be released by the end of 08, or beginning of the 09. At least 4 tails will be released, be prepared it could
be shocking scene

5. Toad dies(he laughs)

6. 3 of Naruto's important people will die or get seriously injured

7. Sasuke's skills cannot be matched against Naruto's new skills.

8. Sasuke v. Itachi is great scale, and later Naruto's information about family and bloodline will show up

9. Sai, he will cause something huge(laughs)

10. 4th's secret and bloodline will be shown

11. 2 huge characters of Konoha will die.


12. There is a female member in Akatsuki

13. Akatsuki will invade Konoha with its mysterious beasts, and Shiranui Genma will provide great help to Konoha

Followings are the Kishi's words @ 2008 Jump Festa

1. Uchiha's secret will be revealed and 2 of the remaining will die

2. Akatsuki's leader kills 6 people

3. Sasuke and Itachi's fight will cause chaos; Uchiha, Uchiha Madara's secrets are revealed and all the skills of the MS will be revealed. The fight will end with death of one.

4. Naruto will collide with Pain; Kakashi's team will collide with Tobi. There will be big turnaround on Tobi v. Kakashi's team.
Naruto v. Pain will be fights of the "beasts". Be prepared, during this fight there will be deaths from Naruto's team.

5. 3 new members will join the Akatsuki. They will be stronger than Deidara, Hidan, and Kakuzu. One of them is the brother/sister of the Hokage

6. Naruto's new skills and the result of the training will reveal when he fight against Pain.

7. After all these fights, there will be a great war

8. There will be death on Tobi v. Naruto team and one of them becomes unable to fight.

9. Jinchuuriki of the 8 tailed will be revealed. This Jinchuuriki kills one of the Akatsuki's members and invades Konoha
by him/herself. During this fight one dies, and one will lose his/her eyesight
Thanks 4 readin...
 

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the u r talking about very least.......posibility

1.bcuz hokage knows everything about ninjas in their village(on a mission ,off mission)..and besides wasnt it hokage who issued the of execution of their clan he must have made sure that all clan is in village(not to danzo)

even if we assume slightest possibility

2.remember when sasuke wakes up in hosp he hears he was only one rescued(literally all dead bodies were retrived)

above all else it was madara who helped itachi in execution of uchiha
w w w . o n e m a n g a. c om/Nar ut o/3 99/1 6/ (sorry I couldn't get the picture to show up.)

This proves that the hokage did not want to discriminate against the Uchiha's, he was the only one to oppose them being watched over. The only reason it didn't happen was because the vote was 1 to 3 (three elders).

I'm guessing the 3rd didn't want all the Uchiha's massacred so maybe when it came time to killing them all, the 3rd just told the three elders that all the Uchiha's were accounted for in the village and it was time to strike. Even though he knew there were other's that were absent from the village that day?

Just a theory I worked up :)
 

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Hey gus i have read other predictions too but this one also got some nice points!!
I did not write this:D

The hokage meeting is in progress. Raikage is sitting with an angered expression while the rest of the hokages are yelling at each other. Garaa finally stands up and slams his fist on the table.
Garaa: "That is not nearly good enough. You all obviously fail to realize just how powerful akatsuki is!"
Mifune: "Easy Kazekage Garaa. I know you do not like this plan but it will have to do for now."
Raikage: "I agree for once with Garaa. Gathering information on akatsuki is unnecessary now. The time to act is now."
Mizukage: "You are still more interested in revenge Raikage. Has the capture of your brother taught you nothing?"
Raikage: "It has taught me that inaction will get us no where. The best course of action is to attack them now."
Danzo: "And what do you suggest we attack? Many of the members of akatsuki are from different villages with no alliagence to anyone so they could be anywhere right now."
Garaa: "But doing nothing could be even more dangerous. What happened to your village raikage pales in comparison to the destruction that happened when akatsuki attacked my village in search of me."
Raikage: "If you survived than I guess that means akatsuki may not have chosen to use as deadly a force as they did when they attempted to kidnap my brother."
Garaa: "I am only alive now thanks to one person. The same person you all overlook right now, Naruto Uzimaki."
Raikage: "I met this naruto uzimaki not long ago. The brat is not worth the effort you suggest to protect him. His capture and loss is an acceptible casualty."
Garaa: "That is what akatsuki wants most. As long as you overlook the value of the bijuu and the jinchuriki the more likely akatsuki will be able to attack with impunity. That is why they attacked my village. They were after my bijuu!"
Danzo: "I concur with Garaa assessment. That is why I will be assigning anbu black ops to watch naruto and keep him under guard until akatsuki is obliterated. Will that be suitable garaa?"
Garaa: "..."
Garaa is shown to be a little conflicted.

Kakashi, Yamoto, and Naruto are camping for the night in the woods. The forest is not covered in snow any more and they are now in normal attire. Naruto is sad and looking at the camp fire.
Kakashi: "It was a nice try naruto. Sadly though some people do not have the compassion that you have."
Naruto: "I guess Nagato was right about some things in the ninja world. You cant always stop the cycle of hate so easily."
Kakashi: "Naruto. Don't let this minor setback let you down. Im sure we will find some other way to convince Raikage to call off the bounty on sasuke."
Naruto: "I just wish I could know what was going on inside the hokage meeting. Any ideas yamoto?"
Yamoto: "I cant get one of my wood clones inside but maybe you can use the frogs to gather information on what is going on during the meeting if you have one that is small enough to not attract too much attention."
Naruto: "Thats a good idea. Some of the frogs are small enough that no one would take too much notice as long as it was undetectable."
Naruto performs summoning jutsu but is disappointed to find its gamakichi he summoned.
Gamakichi: "Naruto! Long time no see buddy! Listen. Pa frog needs to talk with you about something important. Can you summon him to us?"
Naruto: "Ok. I haven't seen him in a while. Im glad that he was able to survive that attack by pain. I thought for sure that pain had killed him."
Naruto performs summoning jutsu and Pa Frog appears.
Fukusaku: "Hey Naruto. It is nice to see you again. Congrats again on defeating Pain. Jiraiya would be proud of you."
Naruto: "Thank you Fukusaku. Gamakichi tells me that you wanted to see me about something important."
Fukusaku: "Jiraiya before he died was searching for information about akatsuki specificly their headquarters, members, and past actions? Did pain tell you anything useful?"
Naruto: "I didn't get any information from pain on those subjects however another source has told me that pain was not the real leader of akatsuki. He was more of pawn in the hands of someone else. The same person who forced the kyubi to attack konoha."
Fukusaku: "Did you find out who it is? Who gave you this information?"
Kakashi: "Let me save you the trouble naruto. I know whom is responcible for the attack but I have long hoped it wasn't him."
Fukusaku: "Who was responcible for the attack on konoha and is the leader of akatsuki?"
Kakashi: "Madara Uchiha and the source of the information was the sealed chakra of the fourth hokage in naruto."
Pa Frog is shocked at what he has just heard.
Fukusaku: "If what you say is true than I think it is very important that you naruto must return to myobuzokan to finish your sage training."
Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamoto are all surprised as they stare at pa frog.
Naruto: "My training is incomplete?"

Sasuke and team hawk are watching the samurai from the rooftops. Karin is trying to keep up when accidentally a clump of snow falls and sasuke just barely manages to stop the guard from yelling an alarm. Suigetsu tries to supress a laugh while karin acts embarrassed. They slowly move along
from roof to roof when karin suddenly notices some of the samurais have dogs with them now. Karin grabs sasuke and points down at the dogs. Sasuke signals for a retreat. They then stop at a roof top with no samurai nearby.
Karin: "That was a close one. I don't think they picked up our scent."
Suigetsu: "Nice work karin. We almost got caught just because you didn't look for the guards to have tracking dogs with them."
Juugo: "The dogs obviously must have just been brought out to help in tracking. I did not detect them until just before we were above them."
Sasuke: "It is no use for us to try to get any closer. We can't stop the dogs from tracking without getting their attention nor can we get any closer without them detecting us."
Karin: "We know that danzo is heading back to konoha soon. Can't we just ambush him once he leaves the iron country?"
Sasuke: "We need to know what route they intend to use as well as any possible escape routes they may have."
Zetsu: "I think I know of a way we can do that if you are up for some interrogation."
Sasuke: "...."

Team samui is in the woods heading away from the iron country. Suddenly Samui sees something in the distance on a branch up ahead. Instinctively she grips her sword. Omoi points and yells in anger as he sees that its sasuke uchiha. Samui suddenly grimaces as she gets a bad feeling.
Omoi: "Is that?! Sasuke!"
Karui: "Forget that brat! This one is mine!"
Samui: "Karui be careful! Something is very wrong here!"
Sasuke smiles and then vanishes. A slash occurs across each member of team samui which sends them crashing to the ground. Samui is looking up and sees Sasuke taking Karui away. Samui looks over to see omoi laying on the ground with his head slumped over. Blood is puddling on the ground.
Samui: "Damn it!"

The hokage meeting is concluding. Mifune is assisting a servant in bringing in some food for the hokages. Garaa and Raikage are still upset. Mizukage is looking at a book. Suddenly a guard rushes in causing the food to come crashing over to the ground. Mifune is mad at the guard and stares at him enraged.
Mifune: "You better have a good explaination for this interuption or you will be facing kennel duty for the next year!"
Guard: "Two gravely wounded ninjas were discovered near the border of the iron country. Its team samui of the cloud village."
Raikage: "What?! What happened to them!? How bad are their injuries."
Guard: "One of them is near fatally wounded while the other is being stitched up right now. They are lucky the patrol found them."
Garaa: "You see now how akatsuki works. Their tactics reflect their brutality."
Raikage: "Have they said who attacked them? Why are you suggesting only two were found. Is one missing?"
Guard: "It was Sasuke Uchiha who attacked them and unfortunately according to one of the survivors on of them was kidnapped."
Danzo: "I guess we are now all in agreement. Sasuke Uchiha effective immediately is to be hunted down and killed on sight."
Raikage is now fuming with rage and storms out of the room while garaa is now frowning with concern.

Karui is inside her own mind in tsukyama genjutsu with sasuke. Sasuke has her arms stuck on a cross with blades stuck in her body pinning her to the cross. Sasuke is holding a sword at her face. Karui is absolutely horrified.
Sasuke: "Now tell me everything you know about the meeting of the hokage or you will die again."

What do u think..........:p
 

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At this point, the main question is... now that there's a chance that Danzo is an Uchiha, why would he go along with a plan to extinguish his entire clan? There is also a chance that Danzo aquired the sharingan in the same manner that kakashi did.
 
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