[Predictions] Naruto Manga 454 Predictions / 453 Discussion

[Naruto Power]

I think some of the predictions are off a bit heres what I think.

- Naruto will train under the 8tail. but not how to control the beast. why the seals are different. the 4th seal will give naruto the power to control the power by letting out what he wants on a dail. Naruto will sword train with the 8tails who is one of the best if not the best. the reason i say this is in the opening theme in some of the shows naruto and sasuke are back to back and put out each others swords. Naruto doesn't use a sword so why would it be in the opening theme. also when the 8tails released the beast it weakened him and ate alot of his charka." 8tails asked why did you bring me out so early and use most of your chakra."

- Sasuke agreed with madara because if he didn't madara said he would kill him there. sasuke trys to attack the same way naruto, the 4th did and goes threw him. later sasuke shows hes tring to come up with a plan to kill tobi when talking with team hawk. the plan is how the hell do you land a hit and the only hit you land will need to be a death blow thats why he tried with the chakra hand chirido "wrong spelling"

- tobi is eather madara or his bro. i think madara why because the transplanted eye can teleport. as shown with kakashi. born eye = amasura (black fire) is top move. transplanted eye = teleport as top move.

-also if naruto was stronger when facing itachi he could of got out of the tech by using a chakra burst as j-man said. but if you have a beast in you you can just chakra power threw it. i dont think naruto will get a sharigan but the gift will put sasuke in a jutsu with a message from itachi. or the real gift is amasura (black fire). why because its a move that will come out on sasuke when naruto chooses to kill sasuke to save the village. then itachi gift would be to fix his mistake by messing with his bros life and taking it for the sake of alot of innocent lifes. think sasukes going to kill everyone naruto like no than BAM black fires buring sasuke up he would be like how naruto " your bro gave me think tech to save the village from you". then sasuke realizes hes lived his life badly and not the way itachi visioned and dies. or is badly burn and lives in peace in the village thanks to naruto.

-i want to see what sasuke does at the meeting i think he will just go for danzo. gaara may try to stop him because gaara got his ass kicked before by him. but what do you expect when your a ninja who doesn't move.

-also gaara may save sasuke the way naruto saved him. to say thanks for saving me naruto. but to do so he will have to kill the plant guy. thats the only way that sasuke could leave madaras group for now. but madara would find him because "its with in his power". but gaara will be the only one walking away. if danzo walks sasuke is a ***** period. not even good enough to be a *****.

-as for madaras group collecting beast it on hold or done because pain was the only one linked to it.

- the moon eye plan had something to do with pain out of the picture. why because the sage of the six path created the moon which i think cost him his life to bring peace. nagato was to use his to kill madara and bring peace. he said hes had enough with being cautious. so I think his plans are going to show him and his gang destroying the ninja world maybe start ww3. with the eye of peace the moon over looking it. ww3 could be started by going to the meeting.

and what the hells going on plot mode with no :naruto::naruto:

 

[Narut0h0lic]

sasuke is becoming even more pathetic, only killing killing, first killing his brother, then killing konoha, now killing the 5 kages, then killing madara why don't he kill himself

 

[raymond349]

yea I agree.. I am not sayin it is a way.. I was only adding to the thought that how could amaterasu b overcome by ninja's who don't hav sharingan.. may b a powerful fire sealin jutsu or even kyuubi power can b used to overcome it.. jus a thought

I was thinking that some powerful water jutsu can extinguish it, probably an advanced jutsu unique to one of the water natured villages such as hidden waterful, mist, rain. Certain people also have certain abilities that give them an advantage to amaterasu.

1: The Hero Water (Hidden Waterful): It's from the naruto movie so it might not exist in the actual plot. But it might have affect on special fires like amaterasu.

2: Advaned water Jutsu: Madara was known to be once (or still is) the Mizukage of the Hidden Mist, a village known to specialist water jutsus. I think Madara's reason to becoming Mizukage is to learn the secret water jutsu to counter against itachi's amaterasu.

3: Garaa: Is sasuke attacks the 5 Kages, Garaa would be probably immune to amaterasu. His chakra reinforced sand armor cannot be penetrated, and sand is not a fuel for fire so amaterasu might not be usable on sand. And even if it is, garaa can simple cast of his amaterasu alighted sand armor and replace it with a new armor of sand, and he can do this unlimited amount of time as he can create sand from his environment.

4: Kakashi Mangekyo Sharingan: Although he might not be able to extinguish it, He can cast amaterasu into another dimension.

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

and why did zetsu split? Didn't get that part...

ok i dont know about this.....i think zetsu split becuz one part is going to find the meeting place with the others and the other part: 1:is going to do somethnig with tobi...2: Wants to always be by tobi's side or 3: Becuz he is about to help tobi do sumething....

 

[culinaryg]

I was thinking that some powerful water jutsu can extinguish it, probably an advanced jutsu unique to one of the water natured villages such as hidden waterful, mist, rain. Certain people also have certain abilities that give them an advantage to amaterasu.


4: Kakashi Mangekyo Sharingan: Although he might not be able to extinguish it, He can cast amaterasu into another dimension.

if amaterasu starts on his neck or behind his head n most of his back hes screwed or even if its on his hand he might end up sending his hand somewhere but he still lives

 

[Sharingan25]

I was thinking that some powerful water jutsu can extinguish it, probably an advanced jutsu unique to one of the water natured villages such as hidden waterful, mist, rain. Certain people also have certain abilities that give them an advantage to amaterasu.

1: The Hero Water (Hidden Waterful): It's from the naruto movie so it might not exist in the actual plot. But it might have affect on special fires like amaterasu.

2: Advaned water Jutsu: Madara was known to be once (or still is) the Mizukage of the Hidden Mist, a village known to specialist water jutsus. I think Madara's reason to becoming Mizukage is to learn the secret water jutsu to counter against itachi's amaterasu.

3: Garaa: Is sasuke attacks the 5 Kages, Garaa would be probably immune to amaterasu. His chakra reinforced sand armor cannot be penetrated, and sand is not a fuel for fire so amaterasu might not be usable on sand. And even if it is, garaa can simple cast of his amaterasu alighted sand armor and replace it with a new armor of sand, and he can do this unlimited amount of time as he can create sand from his environment.

4: Kakashi Mangekyo Sharingan: Although he might not be able to extinguish it, He can cast amaterasu into another dimension.

well ur #2 sounds possible because he did take out the amaterasu that itachi gave 2 sasuke, but ur theory wit gaaras sand is impossible. If sasuke can go through his ultimate defense orb and his sand armor with a chidori(from part 1), wat makes u think dat the strongest attack amaterasu which can go through anything and destroy untill the targets been turned 2 a crisp cant go through gaara and his sand shield. Even if earth is stronger than fire, a very strong attack of the weaker element will always beat the weak attack from the stronger element. plus gaara loses alot of chakra as his sand armor is damaged. and im not attacking gaara hes da man . Plus i think madara is either sealed somehow and dat if he is dead and is living as a spirit wit a "physical form" nagato didnt bring him 2 life because he either didnt trust him at da point.
oh ya ppl been making lotta good points bout how when tobi teleported it resembled kakashis mgs attack. Well seeing how much of a genius kakashi is, he was observing tobi while they were fighting and could possibly be trying to figure out his powers, i mean where did he go 2 after naruto and sakura left him? the jonin vote hasnt even started.
srry im a noob poster im not used 2 dis lol
btw ****** sux NARUTO AND ITACHI PWNZ

 

[Sharingan25]

ok i dont know about this.....i think zetsu split becuz one part is going to find the meeting place with the others and the other part: 1:is going to do somethnig with tobi...2: Wants to always be by tobi's side or 3: Becuz he is about to help tobi do sumething....

OMFG LETS START SOMETHING NEW!! Zetsu is a kage .

 

[ElCapitan]

OMFG LETS START SOMETHING NEW!! Zetsu is a kage .

would be kinda cool if zetsu turned out to be The Tsuchikage xD

 

[Hikakuu Yondaimesama]

Someone just posted the same theory in a seperate thread.

1) That's probarly just an expression meaning that he is way weaker than he used to be, I find it a bit far-fetched to say that this expression is proof that he wouldn't have a physical form.

2) yes, we haven't seen him use one, but he never had too. The only time he ever was in a battle was when he tried to hold of Naruto & co during the battle of Sasuke and Itachi. He just wanted to hold them of, if he wanted to kill them, he probarly would have used a jutsu.

3) He blocked Suigetsu's sword, so he is physical.

4) We don't know enough about this to make conclusions. If he just wanted to be resurrected, then why didn't he do it a long time ago. Nagato could revive an entire village after a long battle, it shouldn't have been that hard to revive one person when he's at full strength.

Maybe they need that many Chakra that they need the power of all Nine tailed bijuu's together to revive him? :O Or it means Pein has that much chakra? Omg

 

[Hikakuu Yondaimesama]

OK, but be realistic, that was only a small remainder of an Ameterasu-attack and I doubt you would have the time to seal it during a battle.

Example: Kakashi's dog summoning it took him quiet a while.

 

[hayam]

I did mention in my post that Madara had asked that.. "I knw madara asked Sasuke if he wants to implant Itachi's eyes after he died (chp 403 pg 17).."

1. Obviously Itachi n Madara wud hav thought abt that n disposed offed the bodies in such a way so that Sharingan secret cannot be revealed...

2. If not then the leaf ninja's themselves wud dispose off the bodies.. as they don't want anyone knowin the secret of Sharingan..

3. Plus implantin sharingan eyes is not easy.. only med ninja can do that.. rem the 3rd girl ninja (dont rem her name) who was with kakashi n obito at that time did it..

4. Also for anyone else other than uchiha to use sharingan is very difficult as it requires a lot of chakra.. it has been shown anyone without Uchiha blood can hardly use it properly or to full effect.. look at wat happens to Kakashi when he uses it lil bit.. not to mention he is considered to be a genius ninja.

Yeah u're right. But i still have a tought that the moon eye's plan has sometin to do with his sharingan. I like the theory who said that madara right now isn't the the true form of himself(he is exist for real, but that's not his real body), and somehow he needs sasuke to achieve his resurrection after nagato dies and couldn't use his rinne tensei.

Anyway, i'm start to thinkin that sasuke might has his own plan right now. I sense something suspicious about the way he look for the moment. It's like his face is saying: "Let's satisfy tobi by saying we will kill all the kages. Let's tobi think i'm just a toy/tool to kill, who only seek for revenge. I wanna see what's his real plan by ordering me to go to the kages meeting. I wanna know what's his real plan with me, and all the story about uchiha clan. What's he really up to?". So i'm correcting my opinion b4 who said that sasuke is just a toy. I think he also has a hidden agenda.

 

[Caliburn]

Example: Kakashi's dog summoning it took him quiet a while.

That doesn't even make sense >.<'...

 

[Stealth Assasin]

Yeah u're right. But i still have a tought that the moon eye's plan has sometin to do with his sharingan. I like the theory who said that madara right now isn't the the true form of himself(he is exist for real, but that's not his real body), and somehow he needs sasuke to achieve his resurrection after nagato dies and couldn't use his rinne tensei.

Anyway, i'm start to thinkin that sasuke might has his own plan right now. I sense something suspicious about the way he look for the moment. It's like his face is saying: "Let's satisfy tobi by saying we will kill all the kages. Let's tobi think i'm just a toy/tool to kill, who only seek for revenge. I wanna see what's his real plan by ordering me to go to the kages meeting. I wanna know what's his real plan with me, and all the story about uchiha clan. What's he really up to?". So i'm correcting my opinion b4 who said that sasuke is just a toy. I think he also has a hidden agenda.

Even though i dont like the guy..... but i think ur rite....saske is buyin time by saying tht....cause there is no way in hell tht he can take on the best 5 shinobi in the world on his own.

On a side note.... I think sai will inform Danzo about Narutos plan on going with the lightin ninja..... & tht will infuriate danzo.... and maybe sakura or sum1 else will spot sai's betrayal....

 

[Stealth Assasin]

I think some of the predictions are off a bit heres what I think.

- Naruto will train under the 8tail. but not how to control the beast. why the seals are different. the 4th seal will give naruto the power to control the power by letting out what he wants on a dail. Naruto will sword train with the 8tails who is one of the best if not the best. the reason i say this is in the opening theme in some of the shows naruto and sasuke are back to back and put out each others swords. Naruto doesn't use a sword so why would it be in the opening theme. also when the 8tails released the beast it weakened him and ate alot of his charka." 8tails asked why did you bring me out so early and use most of your chakra."

- Sasuke agreed with madara because if he didn't madara said he would kill him there. sasuke trys to attack the same way naruto, the 4th did and goes threw him. later sasuke shows hes tring to come up with a plan to kill tobi when talking with team hawk. the plan is how the hell do you land a hit and the only hit you land will need to be a death blow thats why he tried with the chakra hand chirido "wrong spelling"

- tobi is eather madara or his bro. i think madara why because the transplanted eye can teleport. as shown with kakashi. born eye = amasura (black fire) is top move. transplanted eye = teleport as top move.

-also if naruto was stronger when facing itachi he could of got out of the tech by using a chakra burst as j-man said. but if you have a beast in you you can just chakra power threw it. i dont think naruto will get a sharigan but the gift will put sasuke in a jutsu with a message from itachi. or the real gift is amasura (black fire). why because its a move that will come out on sasuke when naruto chooses to kill sasuke to save the village. then itachi gift would be to fix his mistake by messing with his bros life and taking it for the sake of alot of innocent lifes. think sasukes going to kill everyone naruto like no than BAM black fires buring sasuke up he would be like how naruto " your bro gave me think tech to save the village from you". then sasuke realizes hes lived his life badly and not the way itachi visioned and dies. or is badly burn and lives in peace in the village thanks to naruto.

-i want to see what sasuke does at the meeting i think he will just go for danzo. gaara may try to stop him because gaara got his ass kicked before by him. but what do you expect when your a ninja who doesn't move.

-also gaara may save sasuke the way naruto saved him. to say thanks for saving me naruto. but to do so he will have to kill the plant guy. thats the only way that sasuke could leave madaras group for now. but madara would find him because "its with in his power". but gaara will be the only one walking away. if danzo walks sasuke is a ***** period. not even good enough to be a *****.

-as for madaras group collecting beast it on hold or done because pain was the only one linked to it.

- the moon eye plan had something to do with pain out of the picture. why because the sage of the six path created the moon which i think cost him his life to bring peace. nagato was to use his to kill madara and bring peace. he said hes had enough with being cautious. so I think his plans are going to show him and his gang destroying the ninja world maybe start ww3. with the eye of peace the moon over looking it. ww3 could be started by going to the meeting.

and what the hells going on plot mode with no :naruto::naruto:

lol..... Only refering to the last line of your post..... yea man.... Im curious too..... Kishi just left the whole Naruto Hinata thingy in the middle!!!!!

 

[Dean-Winchester]

K i don't know wats ginna hppen tobi is pissingm eoff wihtthis secreets just wanna see the new kabuto

But ithink we may see the kages fightin & we may see them talk about the tailed beasts
since the NEW artbook is ocming on the same day as the maga

& the art bok will reveal a lot of info and secrets

 

[kyubikiran]

somebody said, why tobi/madara teleportation jutsu is stronger than minato jutsu, well the answer is minato himself said that tobi saw through everything he did, if any person can read another person attack before he attacks, it makes them stronger than the other person

and moreover if tobi saw through his flying thunder god technique, tobi is stronger than minato, one more thing kakashi (he is the one who spend quite a bit of time with minato) himself said that madara teleportation is way advanced than minato.

 

[Sharingan25]

Yeah u're right. But i still have a tought that the moon eye's plan has sometin to do with his sharingan. I like the theory who said that madara right now isn't the the true form of himself(he is exist for real, but that's not his real body), and somehow he needs sasuke to achieve his resurrection after nagato dies and couldn't use his rinne tensei.

Anyway, i'm start to thinkin that sasuke might has his own plan right now. I sense something suspicious about the way he look for the moment. It's like his face is saying: "Let's satisfy tobi by saying we will kill all the kages. Let's tobi think i'm just a toy/tool to kill, who only seek for revenge. I wanna see what's his real plan by ordering me to go to the kages meeting. I wanna know what's his real plan with me, and all the story about uchiha clan. What's he really up to?". So i'm correcting my opinion b4 who said that sasuke is just a toy. I think he also has a hidden agenda.

totally agree, i mean sasuke is gay but i mean hes not a dumbass, just like when he was wit orochimaru he just wanted 2 get stronger by acting like his toy but truly wasnt one at all. so if tobi does help him get stronger sasugay wont help him at the end cause all he cares about now is Itachi and itachi didnt want tobi near sasugay, so yeah... betrayal again. Before was to kill his brother, possibly l8r will be power to kill those who destroyed itachis life, if he fails himself. Tobi will be forced 2 use da moons eye plan wateva it is cause plan A wit nagato failed and now plan b wit sasugay is gonna be even bigger fail. And im betting zetsu is like some kickass powerful guy, we havent ever seen him in combat either. Reasons being Madara speaks to him as an equal such as "we cannot control him". oh ya plus since hes like a plant guy, does he have skills such as the first hokage?

 

[culinaryg]

wow tobi has watched almost every recent fight meaning he knows sasukes moves including lightning thunder etc naruto kyuubi etc n hes going to know every kage moves that will be used against sasuke



amaterasu vs gaara = cant gaara just use his 2nd skin(sand skin) n the amaterasu will just burn his sand skin 1st then he can just slither away

but he cant fight against the tsukoyomi since his beast is gone

 

[chopsy16]

Yeah u're right. But i still have a tought that the moon eye's plan has sometin to do with his sharingan. I like the theory who said that madara right now isn't the the true form of himself(he is exist for real, but that's not his real body), and somehow he needs sasuke to achieve his resurrection after nagato dies and couldn't use his rinne tensei.

Anyway, i'm start to thinkin that sasuke might has his own plan right now. I sense something suspicious about the way he look for the moment. It's like his face is saying: "Let's satisfy tobi by saying we will kill all the kages. Let's tobi think i'm just a toy/tool to kill, who only seek for revenge. I wanna see what's his real plan by ordering me to go to the kages meeting. I wanna know what's his real plan with me, and all the story about uchiha clan. What's he really up to?". So i'm correcting my opinion b4 who said that sasuke is just a toy. I think he also has a hidden agenda.

Yea.. its a good theory abt Madara... well I think the theory was that he might not be in his physical form (so thts y things can go through him) with diminished powers.. but some1 else made a good point abt Madara blockin Seguitsu's sword with 1 hand.. so that kinna threw it away.. but if u mean he is in his physical form but not as strong as b4.. n wants to use sasuke to ressurrect himself.. then yea that cud b poss..

I personally feel there is nothin wrong with Madara's powers.. the reason attacks can go through him is caz he is using a space/time jutsu at vry advanced level (it cud b one of EMS powers).. where he can teleport any part of his body wich is under attack (as sakura/kakashi concluded).. it cud b the mixed implementation of Kakashi's MS power + Yondaime's teleportation jutsu.. where he might be able to teleport his body/body parts to different dimension or space.. also Yondaime when talkin to Naruto was sayin that Tobi saw through everythin he did.. n if u don't use any special power theres no way of defeating him... so if anythin were to happen to Madara's powers 4th wudn't be sayin that..

I Agree with sasuke not playin into the hands of Madara and having his own plans too.. thts how sasuke operated with Oro so he cud do same to Madara

 

[chopsy16]

I was thinking that some powerful water jutsu can extinguish it, probably an advanced jutsu unique to one of the water natured villages such as hidden waterful, mist, rain. Certain people also have certain abilities that give them an advantage to amaterasu.

1: The Hero Water (Hidden Waterful): It's from the naruto movie so it might not exist in the actual plot. But it might have affect on special fires like amaterasu.

2: Advaned water Jutsu: Madara was known to be once (or still is) the Mizukage of the Hidden Mist, a village known to specialist water jutsus. I think Madara's reason to becoming Mizukage is to learn the secret water jutsu to counter against itachi's amaterasu.

3: Garaa: Is sasuke attacks the 5 Kages, Garaa would be probably immune to amaterasu. His chakra reinforced sand armor cannot be penetrated, and sand is not a fuel for fire so amaterasu might not be usable on sand. And even if it is, garaa can simple cast of his amaterasu alighted sand armor and replace it with a new armor of sand, and he can do this unlimited amount of time as he can create sand from his environment.

4: Kakashi Mangekyo Sharingan: Although he might not be able to extinguish it, He can cast amaterasu into another dimension.

1. Yea but as u said it was in movie and not related to Manga theories

2. Madara doesn't need any water jutsu to counter Itachi's amaterasu.. he can use his own sharingan to counter it.. as he did when sasuke's eyes attacked him.. plus I don't think amaterasu is diff in diff ppl (sharingan users).. its same tech..

3. yea Gara cud use his sand to block it.. but amaterasu is not that easy to detect.. whn sasukes eyes attacked Madara.. it instantly started on his shoulders.. 2nd when Itachi used it on sasuke.. it kinna flew at sasuke at extremely high speed but Sasuke used replacement technique to dodge it.. (somethin copied from Oro.. (ch 390 pg 16)).. so yea Gara or anyone else cud actually use somthin like that..

4. thts a good point.. it cud b poss.. but if it is casted on someone's body and that too on Kakashi's own body.. then its hard..