[Predictions] Naruto Manga 454 Predictions / 453 Discussion

[Caliburn]

Reading bak from the manga about Tobi/Madra. I just came with a pretty wierd yet very plausible prediction:

It is possible that tobi/madra Donot Exist Physically. Here are the facts to support this prediction:

1- Itachi Said that Madra was a shell of his former self.

2- We have not seen madra actually use any jutsu in any battle.

3- Everything passes through Madra- Almost as if he didnt exist.

4- Madra said he wanted Nagato to use his reincarnation Jutsu for him. ( & now Nagato had betrayed him)

All these facts support that Madra, is infact u may call a living spirit( with a few extra abilities). & he needs saske (or previously needed Nagato) to SYnc with the Statue(gedo mazo) to somehow Restore Him to his former State!!!!!!!

Any Comments/ additions / criticism of this prediction is welcome and appreciated!!!!

Someone just posted the same theory in a seperate thread.

1) That's probarly just an expression meaning that he is way weaker than he used to be, I find it a bit far-fetched to say that this expression is proof that he wouldn't have a physical form.

2) yes, we haven't seen him use one, but he never had too. The only time he ever was in a battle was when he tried to hold of Naruto & co during the battle of Sasuke and Itachi. He just wanted to hold them of, if he wanted to kill them, he probarly would have used a jutsu.

3) He blocked Suigetsu's sword, so he is physical.

4) We don't know enough about this to make conclusions. If he just wanted to be resurrected, then why didn't he do it a long time ago. Nagato could revive an entire village after a long battle, it shouldn't have been that hard to revive one person when he's at full strength.

 

[rockford_396]

SERIOUS PREDICTION : may be madara wants sasuke in the same way orochimaru did... to get his body...




JOKE PREDICTION: sakura and ino wud fight each other for sasuke ... and karin wud go and kill both sakura and ino...
hinata wud feel lucky about loving naruto.. coz she too wud hav been killed if she liked sasuke...

everyone kills each other... and in the end only (ONLY MEANS ONE AND ONLY) shikamaru survives.. he sees everyones dead and says "man... wat a drag..."

 

[culinaryg]

we all know tobi lost his powers ...rpobably seald away
my bet is hes unsealing something anything to get his powers back n sasuke is the ticket to a higher level

im pretty sure if sasuke knew more he could defeat him but i bet as soon as he knows more about the eye tobi will have achieved soemthing to top sasuke

itachi knew amaterasu is the jutsu the can actually harm him that much he knows
now how does he finish him

 

[radibur]

I think u all forgot that tobi/ madara is the MIZUKAGE, so why should he want that sasuke kill all Kages, when he is one too?!

I think that it will be a great fight between the ninjas of the kages like Kankouro, temari, sai i think for danuo against team hawk and white zetsu.

I want to know what zetsus ablilities are? Is he really that strong that he can speak with tobi as equals?

 

[chopsy16]

Is that true madara asked that?
Then i have no idea..
Cos if it's true, then there should be many villain ninja seek for sharingan eyes from the body corpses when itachi wipe the uchiha..

I did mention in my post that Madara had asked that.. "I knw madara asked Sasuke if he wants to implant Itachi's eyes after he died (chp 403 pg 17).."

1. Obviously Itachi n Madara wud hav thought abt that n disposed offed the bodies in such a way so that Sharingan secret cannot be revealed...

2. If not then the leaf ninja's themselves wud dispose off the bodies.. as they don't want anyone knowin the secret of Sharingan..

3. Plus implantin sharingan eyes is not easy.. only med ninja can do that.. rem the 3rd girl ninja (dont rem her name) who was with kakashi n obito at that time did it..

4. Also for anyone else other than uchiha to use sharingan is very difficult as it requires a lot of chakra.. it has been shown anyone without Uchiha blood can hardly use it properly or to full effect.. look at wat happens to Kakashi when he uses it lil bit.. not to mention he is considered to be a genius ninja.

 

[Stealth Assasin]

Someone just posted the same theory in a seperate thread.

1) That's probarly just an expression meaning that he is way weaker than he used to be, I find it a bit far-fetched to say that this expression is proof that he wouldn't have a physical form.

2) yes, we haven't seen him use one, but he never had too. The only time he ever was in a battle was when he tried to hold of Naruto & co during the battle of Sasuke and Itachi. He just wanted to hold them of, if he wanted to kill them, he probarly would have used a jutsu.

3) He blocked Suigetsu's sword, so he is physical.

4) We don't know enough about this to make conclusions. If he just wanted to be resurrected, then why didn't he do it a long time ago. Nagato could revive an entire village after a long battle, it shouldn't have been that hard to revive one person when he's at full strength.

good point abt Suigetsu's sword... forgot abt tht......agreed tobi can be physical......

4=>>> When nagato revived the village... he said there is still time to revive those who he killed in the village.... Perhaps Madra was killed / Hurt beyond recovery a long time ago.... and inorder to revive him Nagato needed the chara of all the tailed beasts.......

buts thts all speculation offcourse.... Only Kishi knowss the acctual secrets Of Madra Uchiha!!!!!!!!!

 

[narudon]

i think :sasuke: his kind of a spy, i think one of his main purpose is to actually find out as much info as he can, on how to fight :hypertobi: these little info is going to come in handy in the long run cause, sakue is aware that :hypertobi: is the biggest inevitable threat to the ninja world.

as someone said earlier, :sasuke: realised that :hypertobi: is the biggest threat since itachi went tru so much to get info on madara as well as itachi didnt trust and like madara because of his threat to the world. he even went tru great lenghts to protect :hypertobi: from sakue, with ametoruso. So i believe saskue is slowly learning a few things about him, inorder to defeat him.

I dnt c why people underestimate :sasuke: as a character, the uchias are planners, they always think 3 steps ahead and ALways have an alterior motive. Is actions could be for the greater good. He might have said he will kill the kages, but U know as well as he kno, he cnt possible do that, even with his new skill, so he must be up to something.

 

[Stealth Assasin]

yes the fox is sneaky but naruto will learn to use its power better and begin to heal there relationship it will come down to yin and yang.

they balance each other out. trust this will come, the 4th knew how to tame the beast, he put that power within naruto to use and control.

two prisoners chained togather, will become one if they will survive,
two prisoners chanied togather, attack with more power and a single attacker
two prisoners chained togather, never can be tricked, (illusion tech. WONT WORK)
two prisoners togather, unstoppeble

the fox and naruto must learn, but naruto must use his power and be-friend the fox, help ease its pain, balance the yang

i Have been waitin for tht to happen ever since the first time Naruto encountered the fox..... Hope kishi gets to it soon!!!!!!!

 

[kaos1012]

this waz a good chapter.. besides that ***** sakura crying all the time.. its plain to c that she still loves sasuke.

ok this is completely off topic but y do people say madara's teleportation is better than minato's??
when madara teleports its called the body flicker technique, minato's is called the flying thunder god technique and it is much stronger than the body flicker.. people are saying that madara's is stronger but think about it, we have never seen minato's teleportation b4. so how can u say madara's is stronger...

juss had 2 get that off my chest but this chapter waz ighttt..

naruto will deff join the cloud nin. nd hopefully learn from killer bee.
GARRA!!!!!

 

[Narut0h0lic]

this waz a good chapter.. besides that ***** sakura crying all the time.. its plain to c that she still loves sasuke.

ok this is completely off topic but y do people say madara's teleportation is better than minato's??
when madara teleports its called the body flicker technique, minato's is called the flying thunder god technique and it is much stronger than the body flicker.. people are saying that madara's is stronger but think about it, we have never seen minato's teleportation b4. so how can u say madara's is stronger...

juss had 2 get that off my chest but this chapter waz ighttt..

naruto will deff join the cloud nin. nd hopefully learn from killer bee.
GARRA!!!!!

well not exactly, body flicker is just a translation to shunshin no jutsu, and minato shunshin no jutsu was awsome, but sasuke has a fast shunshin no jutsu too

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what madara's have is something different

and still we have no evidence whatsoever that the reason why minato was called thunder god was because his shunshin no jutsu

 

[kaos1012]

dude i wouldent be sow shure......about that if u sow exactly at last page sasuke said somethin about amaterasu using it and +another eye tecnique i bet it has somethin 2 do with SUASANOO or if not now in the batle with madara he will use it...if u dint know amaterasu is unstopable:sasuke:

amaterasu isnt "unstopable" if u remember sasuke put out amaterasu when he waz fighting itachi nd madara put it out when sasuke tried 2 use it on him.. soo it can b stoped.. juss dont kno how 2 yet lol

 

[Caliburn]

amaterasu isnt "unstopable" if u remember sasuke put out amaterasu when he waz fighting itachi nd madara put it out when sasuke tried 2 use it on him.. soo it can b stoped.. juss dont kno how 2 yet lol

Yes, you can stop Amaterasu. However it's possible that you need the Sharingan to do it, we have only seen Madara stop it. Eventhough there's no proof for this, it seems a very good possibility.

 

[culinaryg]

amaterasu isnt "unstopable" if u remember sasuke put out amaterasu when he waz fighting itachi nd madara put it out when sasuke tried 2 use it on him.. soo it can b stoped.. juss dont kno how 2 yet lol

itachi put it out himself not sasuke

 

[hazelnut703]

Havent posted for a while, but ive been doin some reading from the past chapters... got a few things I noticed and just wanted to point out.

1. Sasuke isnt the type to be controlled for Gedo Maza. He uses people to get what he wants, then kills them or leaves. Just like he used team 7, and oro.

2. Naruto is gonna training with the 8 tails host. Hes gonna learn how to control the kyuubi. Check out chapter 413, page 14. When Sasuke tries to get the 8 tails guy in an illusion, he says illusions wont work on a host who can control their beast. that way, Naruto cant get caught in an illusion by Sasuke or Tobi.

3. The gift Itachi gave Naruto. I think its to counter Amatsuri, possibly put it out. Itachi said, "hopefully you never use it" hoping Sasuke never used it on Naruto. Just like how he put a give in Sasuke to activate Amatsuri when he saw Tobis sharingan. Not even the 8 tails could counter amatsuri.

4. The whole Tobi=Madara=Danzo=Obito. I dont really know. There are a lot possibilities. Tobi could be Danzo, or his brother. He could actually be Madara, but that would be really weird. He seems to be in good condition for someone over 100, or Danzo somehow got madaras sharingan and is tobi. I get confused just thinking about it so im just gonna wait and seed what happens.

Thats all I have so far.

sasuke never used team seven if his younger self saw himself now he'd probably try to kick his ass. tobi is madara they've said it already

 

[hazelnut703]

like ive said before sasuke has a plan hes not telling anyone or he would have attacked the leaf when it was weak. he changed plans almost immediately. idk if it was on this thread but i read a post tht said sasuke had flashbacks of team seven when the curse mark was taken off does anyone kno what chapter tht happened i dont remember it

 

[Akatsuki leader]

If naruto gonna use sharingan i stop reading the manga and watching the anime,
Naruto gonna learn new technik:Everyone give me Energy! like goku. Kaioken,Rasenken

 

[mathura1484]

hey about minato and tobies teleport jutsus wasnt it kakashi who said tobies version whas better and kakashi has seen minatos in action also i wonder who will tobi recruit now im just saying this as a possibility he can still get orochimaru just has to hand over itachis eyes and im sure orochimaru will join especially after having the leaf black ops after him and it would make sence he was part of the group b4 and hes strong the only reason he lost 2 sasuke was that he was n a weakenend state also we all know sasuke is a bit selfish and he probably really wants to kill the kages but he might b spying on akatsuke im sure his goal of revenge is going to bring him and naruto face 2 face again and naruto is going to have to talk and beat some sence into him and mabe that will b the turning point also narutos main goal is uniting the villages together even pains village will help but he NEEDS the tie in with the cloud mabe becoming friends with killerbee will do the trick

 

[chopsy16]

Yes, you can stop Amaterasu. However it's possible that you need the Sharingan to do it, we have only seen Madara stop it. Eventhough there's no proof for this, it seems a very good possibility.

There was one instance when Jiraya used a sealing jutsu to seal amatersu fire Itachi had used to escape the Frog's stomach.. chp. 148 pg 09..

 

[Caliburn]

There was one instance when Jiraya used a sealing jutsu to seal amatersu fire Itachi had used to escape the Frog's stomach.. chp. 148 pg 09..

OK, but be realistic, that was only a small remainder of an Ameterasu-attack and I doubt you would have the time to seal it during a battle.

 

[chopsy16]

yea I agree.. I am not sayin it is a way.. I was only adding to the thought that how could amaterasu b overcome by ninja's who don't hav sharingan.. may b a powerful fire sealin jutsu or even kyuubi power can b used to overcome it.. jus a thought