[Predictions] Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

[meercy]

I respect both your opinions thanks for the reply. I want to say this...Naruto has a goal, Sasuke has an agenda (That's all).

Now about Sasuke fighting stronger ninjas. The only ninjas Sasuke faced that naruto hasn't faced was the 8tails (In reality that's it...thats it!!). What other superior ninja has Sasuke faced that Naruto hasn't faced. And when has Sasuke EVER save naruto? From what I remember...That was the reason Sasuke left, because he was hating on Naruto for always saving his ass.

Naruto faced Orochimaru, Itachi, and Deidra. These are the Ninjas Sasuke faced sinced he left the Leaf. Only one he faced that Naruto hasn't was the 8tails. And look what happened in that fight! And there's something I want to point out, Naruto faced all those ninja when they were healthy and not sick and he survived. Sasuke CHOSE to face them while they were weak and he had to fight for his life! Am I wrong on these. These are not my opinions....This is what happened in the manga.

Naruto has a goal...And sasuke had a agenda...Totally agree....

Sasuke pretty muched saved naruto from haku....Even tho that was a team fight....
yea we know naruto still got at haku...But haku really killed himself...
Sasuke left cause he had to get strong to face itachi....

And if his power is equal to naruto then there was no need to stay...
He had to change his siutation.....But him and naruto flat out scrapped taijutsu...
And sasuke got the best of him....And when i say that....i dont mean he had him on the ground beatin him to pulp to he couldnt breathe....He jus a better fighter....

Naruto didnt win against oro, itachi(which was a clone), or deiadara eithier.(which i think they hyped diedara to much seemin that naruto was after him and neji, lee, guy & ten ten)
Oro was in a weakend state....Itachi was too but he had been that way for a while...
Itachi could have been sick since kakashi asked him how blind are u really....

I didnt expect sasuke to handle the 8tails...Why..Cause he has control of his bijuu...
But in the same since...Sasuke is the same person who entered narutos mind and supressed his fox chakra....

 

[meercy]

Not true, naruto has missions because he's into it, just as much as sasuke was into geting revenge on itachi, and even when he was underpowered, he fought and won, unlike sasuke

they still have diff goals....

 

[xerious]

And don't forget the Sharingan that Naruto has (That Itachi gave him). Add that to the list. The only ninjas in this series that can compete with him now are "PEIN" and "Madara" and Itachi's dead but he would've definitly been on that list.

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[xerious]

But in the same since...Sasuke is the same person who entered narutos mind and supressed his fox chakra....

No he just used a genjutsu, he didnt suppresed anything at all

 

[meercy]

No he just used a genjutsu, he didnt suppresed anything at all

why naruto didnt use it then ? perhaps he didnt have time ?
so agreed if naruto tries to use fox chakra sasuke can jus use genjutsu right ?

 

[NotoriousWarrior]

why naruto didnt use it then ? perhaps he didnt have time ?
so agreed if naruto tries to use fox chakra sasuke can jus use genjutsu right ?

well, i think that the power Itachi gave naruto is most likely something to counter sharingan meaning that sasuke can't use genjutsu on him. its probably the same as what happened between sasuke and madara when he say his sharingan and madara got caught on black flames.

so its probably the same for naruto. the second he sees sasukes sharingan or madaras, naruto might get eye color change (that would be his 4th mode normal, kyuubi and sage mode. next mode could be counter sharingan mode or sharingan mode, lol).

 

[master shinobi]

Hi its my first post on this forum... i must say i read a few pages of this topic and i must say u guys have some good theories and predictions for the manga
the diversion the frogs did to disconnect the rinnegan was awesome XD i think that it is the weakness of pains bodies... But I still have a feeling that we haven't seen the real pain and the full extend of the rinnegans power,so nagato is the real pain and his just controlling the bodies like puppets with the chakra transmitters on the bodies. The rinnegans power has something to do with combing and using the 5 elements to create a 6th element as jiraya says in a previous chapter in the manga.
As for tobi there is no chance he can be obito since half of obitos body was crushed by the rocks and the only parts remaining were is right side thats why they didnt pull him out (im to lazy to look this up lol but im pretty sure thats how it was). ppl its a fact tobi is madara and the mizukage they already confirmed it in the manga. Which means that rain and mist are allied against konoha and after the 8-tailed incident i think we will see more like a ninja war between mist and rain against konoha and cloud.
My prediction for the next chapter is that the real fight is about to start since the other pain bodies was buying god realm time to recover his chakra after that powerful jutsu he used to destroy konoha. I think naruto will surprise us by either using the ninetailed fox chakra or learning to use sage mode while moving but either way he is going to have a hard time next chapter and get kicked around for a bit until he figuers out a way to beat pain.
Next chapter will be awesome im hoping for 1 vs 1 battle between naruto and god realm without power ups, but i doubt that will happen.
Thanks for reading!

 

[sinBLACK]

I hear what you're saying but here's the thing. When Sasuke fought Haku on the bridge....HE LOST!! It was then that the seal broke and Naruto unleashed some of the 9tail power. Sasuke was down for the count when that happened. So how do figure Sasuke saved Naruto.

Sasuke didn't leave because he was at the same level as Naruto. REMEMBER...he was reflecting the past on how ever major battle they got into Naruto would have to step up and defeat their foe. Sasuke left after he got beat down by that Ninja with the lightening sword. And guess who ended up beating that guy...yup Naruto did!!

You're right about Naruto not beating orochimaru (But then again i never said he did). All I'm saying is he fought these foes and he's still alive. They were unable to kill him. Sasuke faced up against the WEAKEST of the atusaki! Deidra what the weakest (I don't even think it was realalistic that he beat Gaara!) and he had to fight for his LIFE.

I agree when people say that the power Itachi gave Naruto was the same thing he gave Sasuke (A Sharingan counter), but if it is...it renders the sharingon useless against him. So if that's the case, then what can Sasuke do to him?! Sasukes main thing is his sharingan. His sword and chiadori are average at best. He has nothing that would defend against Naruto "Fox Mode" , "Sage Mode" or is new "Rasen Shuriken". Plus Naruto now uses his clones effectively.

I mean...Can ANYONE come up with a valid argument on how Sasuke could beat Naruto?!

 

[sinBLACK]

Nice post. He probably will surprise us with using the Sage mode while moving. But I think his ultimate technique will be to have complete control over the demon fox. Naruto can control it up to 3 tails....Just imagine if he could control it and himself up to the full nine! Orochimaru couldn't handle him with the power of 4 tails...IMAGINE 9!! Imagine 9 tails and what that would do to his jutsus, it would increase them by 1000.

That's what he needs to be training to do, controlling his Kuybi. After all, he does have the most powerful one of the 9.

 

[master shinobi]

Thanks, that would be cool and all but i doubt it. lol if he were able to control it up to 9-tails that would mean that naruto is unbeatable and has accomplished his goal to become the greatest ninja ever. XD who would be able to handle him with sage mode and full 9-tailed mode at the same time, it kills the story.

 

[meercy]

well, i think that the power Itachi gave naruto is most likely something to counter sharingan meaning that sasuke can't use genjutsu on him. its probably the same as what happened between sasuke and madara when he say his sharingan and madara got caught on black flames.

so its probably the same for naruto. the second he sees sasukes sharingan or madaras, naruto might get eye color change (that would be his 4th mode normal, kyuubi and sage mode. next mode could be counter sharingan mode or sharingan mode, lol).

well i mean that could be tru....
we never know wat itachi can do....

Hi its my first post on this forum... i must say i read a few pages of this topic and i must say u guys have some good theories and predictions for the manga
the diversion the frogs did to disconnect the rinnegan was awesome XD i think that it is the weakness of pains bodies... But I still have a feeling that we haven't seen the real pain and the full extend of the rinnegans power,so nagato is the real pain and his just controlling the bodies like puppets with the chakra transmitters on the bodies. The rinnegans power has something to do with combing and using the 5 elements to create a 6th element as jiraya says in a previous chapter in the manga.
As for tobi there is no chance he can be obito since half of obitos body was crushed by the rocks and the only parts remaining were is right side thats why they didnt pull him out (im to lazy to look this up lol but im pretty sure thats how it was). ppl its a fact tobi is madara and the mizukage they already confirmed it in the manga. Which means that rain and mist are allied against konoha and after the 8-tailed incident i think we will see more like a ninja war between mist and rain against konoha and cloud.
My prediction for the next chapter is that the real fight is about to start since the other pain bodies was buying god realm time to recover his chakra after that powerful jutsu he used to destroy konoha. I think naruto will surprise us by either using the ninetailed fox chakra or learning to use sage mode while moving but either way he is going to have a hard time next chapter and get kicked around for a bit until he figuers out a way to beat pain.
Next chapter will be awesome im hoping for 1 vs 1 battle between naruto and god realm without power ups, but i doubt that will happen.
Thanks for reading!

welcome...
agreed for the thought of pein to a certain degree...

I hear what you're saying but here's the thing. When Sasuke fought Haku on the bridge....HE LOST!! It was then that the seal broke and Naruto unleashed some of the 9tail power. Sasuke was down for the count when that happened. So how do figure Sasuke saved Naruto.

Sasuke didn't leave because he was at the same level as Naruto. REMEMBER...he was reflecting the past on how ever major battle they got into Naruto would have to step up and defeat their foe. Sasuke left after he got beat down by that Ninja with the lightening sword. And guess who ended up beating that guy...yup Naruto did!!

You're right about Naruto not beating orochimaru (But then again i never said he did). All I'm saying is he fought these foes and he's still alive. They were unable to kill him. Sasuke faced up against the WEAKEST of the atusaki! Deidra what the weakest (I don't even think it was realalistic that he beat Gaara!) and he had to fight for his LIFE.

I agree when people say that the power Itachi gave Naruto was the same thing he gave Sasuke (A Sharingan counter), but if it is...it renders the sharingon useless against him. So if that's the case, then what can Sasuke do to him?! Sasukes main thing is his sharingan. His sword and chiadori are average at best. He has nothing that would defend against Naruto "Fox Mode" , "Sage Mode" or is new "Rasen Shuriken". Plus Naruto now uses his clones effectively.

I mean...Can ANYONE come up with a valid argument on how Sasuke could beat Naruto?!

I didnt say he saved naruto and thats the end...
When naruto jumped in the way and he could have easily been hit by haku...
It was sum type of ice needles or summin forgot wat it actually was called....
But sasuke jump in the way of the attack....That was a save...Jus like when garra was about to attack sasuke in the forest the last time...Naruto kick his face...Thats a save...

No i said or meant, which eva one it was i wrote....
Thats sasuke left because he wasnt strong enuff ( but mainly because his power moves were unmatched ) Sasuke is saying to his self....Im a skilled fighter and i know i can go toe to toe wit naruto....But why does his rasengan seem to be stronger than my chidori....Everytime i use my move i am being showed up....Theres no way i can face itachi this way....We have seen naurto and sasuke fight twice atleast....I can not honestly say naruto showed him up...The least u could do wit there battle is a tie....

And deidara was the weakest....but they wanted him to look strong....lol..
He cant beat garra sasuke or naruto if u ask me....Nor lee, or neji...
But they had him wit superior speed and envadin skillz...
I mean even in naruto fightin deidara...They had deidara do a weak clone at the last 2nd from dyin...lol...They also made it seem as if kakashi was unmatched as well...lol...

Lets say sasuke couldnt use sharringan on naruto cuz of itachi...
Ok so naruto has fox chakra...Sasuke maynot be able to win...
Sage Mode...It takes time to do....Even if he uses his clones...
If sasuke targets the real naruto then wat ?
Cause naruto at reg mode is not faster than sasuke...
And i dont think sasuke would let naruto hit him wit RS....

 

[sinBLACK]

This is the point I've been trying make. Naruto's Potential far exceeds Sasukes. Sasuke is only an average Uchiha (I'm sorry everybody but's the truth). Sasuke's only advantage was that had a brother who was one of the most power Uchihas in the history of the clan pushing and guiding him (Even if it WAS indirectly). Sasuke was average, Itachi was pretty much the best!!

Sasuke could never live up to his brothers potential. He's still not even there. I think he still couldn't beat kakashi. I think he's at that level. He really hasn't learned any new major techniques. Sasukes major Flaw.......Is his arogance, and that's what makes him weak. Look at Itachi, he was totally cool and calm....He was a bad ass (Like I said, the best). And then take a look at Sasuke, he rushed into so many right thinking his Sharingan was going to do all the work for him and ends up getting beat down.

Now Naruto on the other hand has F**KING HEART!! And that's his true strength. I agree that they'll probably never have him master the demon up to nine tails cause then he WOULD be 100% unbeatable, but it's the fact that he can achieve that. We all know he has the potential to do that.

 

[sinBLACK]

I apologize, you're right, I forgot about that last minute save by Sasuke. True True. I also agree that Sasuke is a hell of alot faster than Naruto. It's a classic case of speed/agility vs Strengh/power. But here's my point (And you said it yourself), Naurto in "Normal Mode" couldn't keep up with Sasuke.

We all know how worked up Naruto gets when it comes down to Sasuke. If they were to meet, Naruto would loss his cool and Change in the 9tails. And we all witnessed how quick he becomes there. His speed is the same as Sasukes.

 

[meercy]

I apologize, you're right, I forgot about that last minute save by Sasuke. True True. I also agree that Sasuke is a hell of alot faster than Naruto. It's a classic case of speed/agility vs Strengh/power. But here's my point (And you said it yourself), Naurto in "Normal Mode" couldn't keep up with Sasuke.

We all know how worked up Naruto gets when it comes down to Sasuke. If they were to meet, Naruto would loss his cool and Change in the 9tails. And we all witnessed how quick he becomes there. His speed is the same as Sasukes.

Umm i think itachi told sasuke best....Wit power comes cockiness....
I think thats wat happened...Hung out wit the most arrogant person ever...
Oro...lol...And he got him stronger than ever....
I think sasuke has a front he cant take off....Hes always been that way wit naruto...

Yea thats wat i been saying the whole time (even tho its jus now seeable)..lol..
Sasuke = Speed/Agility & not so bad moves to add...
Naruto = Heart/Strength(i would go with) and powerful moves...

I mean its a lot of scenarios about their match...
But if u look at it like...Sasuke Vs Fox....Sasuke looses....
Sasuke Vs. Sage Mode...He may loose (cause i dunno if he got new tricks or wat)

A shinobi never stops progressing...So thier both becomin stronger...
Like i thought i had seen all of sasuke moves untill he fought itachi...
Then he brings out karin....& he had the seals on his hands....(for weapons)
Now naruto may have more tricks up his sleeves as well...
So im not takin nothing from him...

 

[Narutoftw]

sASUKE DOESNT RELY ON HIS SHARRINGAN....He went into the fight wit killerbee wit out it...he has never relied on it..Everytime he has fought..He has went into the fight wit out it..Even wit itachi....he never relies on it..Untill its time...This is why sasuke is a skilled shinobi...He is like kakashi....And the last time sasuke came out the battle on top is when him and naruto fought at the valley of the end....Take that for example....He trampled naruto wit out sharringan....

i like how basically everything here is wrong XD

he defeated some sort of clone of killerbee with Amaterasu (a sharingan technique)

as soon as he met itachi they had a genjutsu battle and defeated tsukuyomi with his SHARINGAN

and when he fought naruto in the valley of end he used sharingan to evade attacks which were too fast for him before the 3rd tomoe thing came out..

and then he relied on the cursed seal.

sasuke fails.

fucked up the quote ololol

 

[narutosama]

What if while hell realm tries to revive the other pein bodies naruto teleports using the 4ths technique and suprises him and kills em off

that would be an eyeopener

 

[a thousand years of death]

You cant honestly believe that about naruto ? But 1st let me say....
Since none of them do summonings we can cancell narutos lil summonings out to make it in all fairness....Now back to it....

Naruto cant whoop - Neji, Lee, Kiba (unless he can out smart him and both of them are reckless) Sakura ( i dont care wat ppl think....If kishi let sakura fight naruto how she did sasori he cant win)

Naruto Can whoop - Ten Ten, Ino, Chouji (hopefully)

Naruto Possability - Shino (solely because we dont know his full power) & Shikimaru (2 smart)

Lee is way to fast for naruto....Neji hands down....lol....Im not gone really explain this cause like i said b4...We know naruto will be a great shinobi but right now his fighting skill is not up to par with otha shinobis as a whole....Naruto doesnt have one move thats quick or effective enuff to hit or almost hit neji or lee....Or sakura....lol...One punch narutos out...Even kakshi said if the wind of it hits him hes down....



sASUKE DOESNT RELY ON HIS SHARRINGAN....He went into the fight wit killerbee wit out it...he has never relied on it..Everytime he has fought..He has went into the fight wit out it..Even wit itachi....he never relies on it..Untill its time...This is why sasuke is a skilled shinobi...He is like kakashi....And the last time sasuke came out the battle on top is when him and naruto fought at the valley of the end....Take that for example....He trampled naruto wit out sharringan....

I have seen neji fight wit out his as well....But seeing that he uses his skill quite often then its nothin for him to use it on the regular....Cause it doesnt really tire him out as of wat i have seen..

And its fair if naruto gets a power up to be match correctly...
But seriously....Naruto cant whoop any shinobi flat out....lol...
Even if he used rasengan...oodama rasengan...RS....(he cant use FRS cause he gotta be in sage mode to throw it....) alot of clones.....Lee, Neji, Sakura, & the list goes on...Are too fast to get hit by such a upclose range move.....Its like chidori....If ur not skilled enuf and undetected when usin it...Its easily dodgeable...

lolololololol. how stupid was that post.

naruto cant beat sakura! lololol. what if sakura's fist ran into a rasengan? or wind release rasengan? or a rasenshuriken?

naruto has already beaten kiba fair and square. well naruto's chakra was messed up by that five element seal. and kiba had those food pills.

naruto also beat neji. neji used his birth right power and so did naruto.
both had to work hard to use it and both had to work hard to master it. but i think naruto had to work harder for it tbh.

rock lee vs naruto would be a good fight. but i think naruto would win in the end. actually it would prob end in a stalemate. seeing that both wont give in.

shino and shikamaru would also be a good fight to watch. both are very smart. im sure shikamaru would find a way but id put my money on naruto. and shino is too hard to call and id rather keep my money on myself and enjoy the fight.

all of those (except neji) would have been without the sage chakra or fox chakra. if naruto would have any of them naruto would win almost instantly for the same reason shikamaru's dad said. naruto is on a whole other level.




btw sasuke does rely on the sharingan in my opinion for the same reason sageofmyobokuzan said. he has not won a fight without it. and yh he didnt use it to start of with against killa bee and look what happened. killa bee launched his assault sasuke uses sharingan. doesnt matter sasuke lost. would have died if kirin didnt have a full heal ability

 

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[meercy]

....i like how basically everything here is wrong XD

he defeated some sort of clone of killerbee with Amaterasu (a sharingan technique)

as soon as he met itachi they had a genjutsu battle and defeated tsukuyomi with his SHARINGAN

and when he fought naruto in the valley of end he used sharingan to evade attacks which were too fast for him before the 3rd tomoe thing came out..

and then he relied on the cursed seal.

sasuke fails.

U took that post the wrong way....
Obviously u commenting off of wat i say different from how i typed it...

i didnt even realize at 1st he had it on when he meet itachi...
I have corrected that such statement....

Sasuke played wit naruto a lil bit...
Then told him thers no more interference...
I will show the real power of the sharringan...
Naruto said watch closely wit ur sharringan the real way of the ninja..(i jus looked at it)

Sasuke attacked naruto and he couldnt keep up...lol...
Naruto couldnt keep up till he went in kyubbi...
Then sasuke got his 3rd tomoe and seen his movements....

 

[meercy]

lolololololol. how stupid was that post.

naruto cant beat sakura! lololol. what if sakura's fist ran into a rasengan? or wind release rasengan? or a rasenshuriken?

btw sasuke does rely on the sharingan in my opinion for the same reason sageofmyobokuzan said. he has not won a fight without it. and yh he didnt use it to start of with against killa bee and look what happened. killa bee launched his assault sasuke uses sharingan. doesnt matter sasuke lost. would have died if kirin didnt have a full heal ability

How do u know wat sakura will do ?
Only ppl run into battle is naruto...

Sasuke is spose to use his sharringan....But theres times he doesnt...
As far as we seen itachi fight he always had hi sharringan on too...
He has not won a fight with out it...

It doesnt matter wat killer bee did...lol..
The fact is he didnt have sharringan on...that was the point to be made...lol..