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naruto isnt the strongest alive, because he cant handle obito. no obito is the strongest alive
 

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Genjutsu doesn't work on host who has full control of there tail beast.
The gentle fist doesn't work on him.
Does everyone agree?

sorry , but I already proved both of those points wrong with manga proof.

Genjutsu can work at least up to 3 seconds, or whenever the Bijuu snaps the Jinchuriki out of it.

The jinchuriki still needs the Bijuu to help with the genjutsu breaking.

Sasuke casted genjutsu on Killer Bee until Eighttails woke him up. It still affected him.

Itachi cast it on him until the Bijuu woke him up as well.

So it works until you snap out of it. It works, but you can nullify it.
If you're aware.

GENTLE FIST works on anyone with chakra. Edo Tensei'd targets will nullify Gentle Fist
, but living being will not. Neji tried it on Naruto and it worked. It work on Naruto's chakra.

Then the 9tails chakra was released and Naruto started using Kurama's.
That's how he defeated Neji.. Neji was tired, drained , and worn out, and Naruto used his secret weapon. Kurama.

All the Gentle Fist does, is it has to stop Kurama's chakra flow from being used.
 

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naruto isnt the strongest alive, because he cant handle obito. no obito is the strongest alive

When they first fault yes, I'll give you that. But now before he was transported. No Obito can't hold a flame. If anything they may be equals but very different.
 

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Naruto is the strongest alive. Stronger than Obito. Stronger than Sasuke.

He's OP. No one (alive) is beating him 1v1.
 

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He couldn't even touch Obito without Kakashi...
 

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sorry , but I already proved both of those points wrong with manga proof.

Genjutsu can work at least up to 3 seconds, or whenever the Bijuu snaps the Jinchuriki out of it.

The jinchuriki still needs the Bijuu to help with the genjutsu breaking.

Sasuke casted genjutsu on Killer Bee until Eighttails woke him up. It still affected him.

Itachi cast it on him until the Bijuu woke him up as well.

So it works until you snap out of it. It works, but you can nullify it.
If you're aware.

GENTLE FIST works on anyone with chakra. Edo Tensei'd targets will nullify Gentle Fist
, but living being will not. Neji tried it on Naruto and it worked. It work on Naruto's chakra.

Then the 9tails chakra was released and Naruto started using Kurama's.
That's how he defeated Neji.. Neji was tired, drained , and worn out, and Naruto used his secret weapon. Kurama.

All the Gentle Fist does, is it has to stop Kurama's chakra flow from being used.

Yes..sasuke used it on the 8 tails. But sasuke still lost. And had to get healed by one of his team member.
Itachi did use it on Naruto..but it was as you said got nullified by Sakura and granny Chiyo. He wasn't in charged of the nine tail then.

Yes..The gentle fist worked on naruto until the nine tail gave him chakra and he bested Neji. Neji couldn't do anything since all of naruto chakra points was blocked.
 

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Naruto is the strongest alive. Stronger than Obito. Stronger than Sasuke.

He's OP. No one (alive) is beating him 1v1.

THANK YOU!!! ??

No one alive can beat him. And Obito is half dead anyways. He is getting assistance from the white zesu.
 

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Naruto isn't the strongest alive since he is not smart enough to be .

He can get information from people , but even when he knows his opponents jutsu, he still falls for it.

example: when he fought edo nagato..(although that might have been a joke) :sweat: who knows

the competition he has though is Kabuto(DSM/EDO TENSEI) and Obito(KAMUI/RINNEGAN paths Jinchuriki)

EMS Sasuke can summon Hawks and Snakes, Orochimaru EDO TENSEI.

Naruto is still top tier ofcourse though. :win: so with no definite winner, Naruto could be the strongest.

He should be possibly, but he isn't. Its tricky & complicated.

weeeeeeeee :bouncy:
 

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THANK YOU!!! ????????????

No one alive can beat him. And Obito is half dead anyways. He is getting assistance from the white zesu.

Naruto couldn't even touch a half dead Obito without Kakashi. Even in BM. Please, don't ignore this lol.
 

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Yes..sasuke used it on the 8 tails. But sasuke still lost. And had to get healed by one of his team member.
Itachi did use it on Naruto..but it was as you said got nullified by Sakura and granny Chiyo. He wasn't in charged of the nine tail then.

Yes..The gentle fist worked on naruto until the nine tail gave him chakra and he bested Neji. Neji couldn't do anything since all of naruto chakra points was blocked.

sorry , I meant Itachi casting genjutsu on Killer Bee during the war. The Eight tails woke Killer Bee up in that one too.

It was working on KillerBee although he had encountered Sasuke's genjutsu before.
Itachi is on a whole other level with Genjutsu than Sasuke.

Gentle Fist can also make your chakra release faster than you would like it to.
It can literally clog your chakra up.. If Neji had more stamina, he could have done something more, but he was aching and caught off guard by Naruto in the end.
 
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He can be stronger than Sakura when he has sage strength. He can shield all shinobi from attacks better than Tsunade. He evolve the rasengan, something that his father or jariya and kakashi couldn't do. Genjutsu doesn't work on host who has full control of there tail beast. The gentle fist doesn't work on him. He is the fastest shinobi alive.

Does everyone agree?

yes you are right... i agree with you ...
 

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Naruto couldn't even touch a half dead Obito without Kakashi. Even in BM. Please, don't ignore this lol.

Okay in the beginning sure..but now with his chakra control no. Plus he has a stolen rennigan, again a half dead body. So he is at a disadvantage. But..after figuring out Obito techniques, he would of got served. Kakashi jumped in because he was concern for his friend.

Plus naruto already took down some some past host, 1-7 tail beast and Obito couldn't still capture him. Plus mandara jumped in as well. So they couldn't fight one on one. I guess we wot never know.
 

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sorry , I meant Itachi casting genjutsu on Killer Bee during the war. The Eight tails woke Killer Bee up in that one too.

It was working on KillerBee although he had encountered Sasuke's genjutsu before.
Itachi is on a whole other level with Genjutsu than Sasuke.

Gentle Fist can also make your chakra release faster than you would like it to.
It can literally clog your chakra up.. If Neji had more stamina, he could have done something more, but he was aching and caught off guard by Naruto in the end.

In the end naruto..would have the tails chakra or the sage chakra. And it's more than anyone with a byakugan can handle.
 

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Naruto isn't the strongest alive since he is not smart enough to be .

He can get information from people , but even when he knows his opponents jutsu, he still falls for it.

example: when he fought edo nagato..(although that might have been a joke) :sweat: who knows

the competition he has though is Kabuto(DSM/EDO TENSEI) and Obito(KAMUI/RINNEGAN paths Jinchuriki)

EMS Sasuke can summon Hawks and Snakes, Orochimaru EDO TENSEI.

Naruto is still top tier ofcourse though. :win: so with no definite winner, Naruto could be the strongest.

He should be possibly, but he isn't. Its tricky & complicated.

weeeeeeeee :bouncy:

Very true..
 

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Nope disagree.

Do pros and con to prove your point. I'm sure Naruto would be stronger at the end.

Naruto can't even touch Obito let alone defeat him. Naruto had the help of 3 other shinobi and still couldn't touch Obito till Kakashi exploited his weakness. Any clones that come at him get one shotted by a swing of the Gunbai like they did in Canon and Naruto either ends up getting his soul taken or he gets warped.
 
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