naruto is the most versitile ninja ever

[izinagi54]

Burr? When we talk about his taijutsu, we don't care about his movement speed.. that falls under speed category in databooks.. not taijutsu..

Naruto can't even beat kakashi in a taijtusu battle, no shadow clones etc..
He can't ...

And kakashi is only a 4 or 4.5 in taijutsu..


@your lee coment, what are you talking about? what fight? Lee wasn't in konoha during the pein fight.. and even then , Naruto told everyone to stay away

ok good point but naruto is not weak in taijutsu and besides i hardly doubt kakashi can beat him in it now. he even stated that naruto surpassed him thats from the freakin show itself

 

[Ninpou]

without sharingan sasuke is weak but hell lets just go ahead and take away stuff naruto is earned.

sasuke with sharingan is like a turtle without its shell it will eventualy die

He is faster than Naruto in base form, nothing to do with the sharingan.

 

[izinagi54]

Being able to out number your enemy because of power does not make you versatile.

numbers > then quality

it works in naruto and it works in real life don't believe me. go ask what happened to hitlers 3rd reich.

besides naruto is your one man counter machine.

meteor or chibaku tensie = bijuu dama
preta path= taijutsu or frog kata
deva or asura path= nine tailed cloak
human path and outter path= speed

versitility comes in many forms

just because you don't have the 5 elements or rinnegan or the worlds greatest jutsu makes you not versitile

naruto is pretty much a counter to a army
a counter to the rinnegan
a counter to many other things

 

[Owarij]

ok good point but naruto is not weak in taijutsu and besides i hardly doubt kakashi can beat him in it now. he even stated that naruto surpassed him thats from the freakin show itself

If he has said naruto surpassed him, He means in overall power, That naruto can defeat him in a fight.. that in no way means naruto is better than him in ninjutsu, taijutsu or genjutsu...

naruto is pretty much a counter to a army
a counter to the rinnegan
a counter to many other things

That's not versatility.. Read my post on the definition.. versatility is being compotent in many different areas.. The reason naruto's databook is so low , despite learning sage mode etc, is BECAUSE he isn't compotent in major areas such as genjutsu, seals etc.. All of this lowers his score...

He can be as strong as he wants, and maybe he can solo an army..
But when it comes to versatiliy
Someone like hiruzen who has 5's in genjutsu, ninjutsu, taijutsu all around , is someone who is versatile

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

i think jiraiyas arsenal is more versatile , but naruto is the only TOTAL OP seemingly UNDEFEATABLE e.g.(madara , sasuke , hashirama , naruto ,tobi) to be that versatile

 

[izinagi54]

If he has said naruto surpassed him, He means in overall power, That naruto can defeat him in a fight.. that in no way means naruto is better than him in ninjutsu, taijutsu or genjutsu...

im pretty sure he is close in taijutsu

i mean your gonna call him out on using shadow clone in taijutsu call out sasuke who seems to spam susanoo or amatasaru in close combat

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

If he has said naruto surpassed him, He means in overall power, That naruto can defeat him in a fight.. that in no way means naruto is better than him in ninjutsu, taijutsu or genjutsu...

so how is kakashi supposed to keep up with KM or BM in a taijutsu fight , and anyways , kakashi struggled vs deva path with speed alone , but SM( which btw is far slower than KM and BM) was fast enough to atleast keep up ,m and narutos regenerative powers means any of kakashis taijutsu attacks are useless , and naruto with 1 finger would pierce a hole in kakashi

 

[Owarij]

im pretty sure he is close in taijutsu

i mean your gonna call him out on using shadow clone in taijutsu call out sasuke who seems to spam susanoo or amatasaru in close combat

Shadow clone is ninjutsu, and susanno is ninjutsu... I'm not talking about nintaijutsu here... which is what they both do..
I'm talking about hand to hand combat, Naruto cannot best gai, he cannot best kakashi..

so how is kakashi supposed to keep up with KM or BM in a taijutsu fight , and anyways , kakashi struggled vs deva path with speed alone , but SM( which btw is far slower than KM and BM) was fast enough to atleast keep up ,m and narutos regenerative powers means any of kakashis taijutsu attacks are useless , and naruto with 1 finger would pierce a hole in kakashi

Must I say it again? speed doesn't fall under the category of taijutsu...
It actually has its own category for rating in databooks..
Naruto is fast as hell, he can run at you and rasengan you in seconds... That says nothing about his true skill/ability in a true taijutsu fight..

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Shadow clone is ninjutsu, and susanno is ninjutsu... I'm not talking about nintaijutsu here... which is what they both do..
I'm talking about hand to hand combat, Naruto cannot best gai, he cannot best kakashi..

Must I say it again? speed doesn't fall under the category of taijutsu...
It actually has its own category for rating in databooks..
Naruto is fast as hell, he can run at you and rasengan you in seconds... That says nothing about his ability in a true taijutsu fight..

does KM count as ninjutsu? does SM count as ninjutsu? dont think so

 

[Ninpou]

numbers > then quality

it works in naruto and it works in real life don't believe me. go ask what happened to hitlers 3rd reich.

besides naruto is your one man counter machine.

meteor or chibaku tensie = bijuu dama
preta path= taijutsu or frog kata
deva or asura path= nine tailed cloak
human path and outter path= speed

versitility comes in many forms

just because you don't have the 5 elements or rinnegan or the worlds greatest jutsu makes you not versitile

naruto is pretty much a counter to a army
a counter to the rinnegan
a counter to many other things

One example dosent make it a valid arguement, Quality is definatly greater quantity.
Chibaku tensei and the meteor will over power the tbb

your forgetting all the paths are in one body so if Naruto trys to counter one he leaves him self open to the others.

 

[Owarij]

does KM count as ninjutsu? does SM count as ninjutsu? dont think so

Km counts as ninjutsu, It's a chakra cloak, just like bee's chakra cloak

Sage mode probably falls into its own category

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Km counts as ninjutsu, It's a chakra cloak, just like bee's chakra cloak

Sage mode probably falls into its own category

naruto would lose in a pure taijutsu battle , if you restrict every single jutsu he has.... but hes not far off.... and a chakra cloak is chakra , not ninjutsu , chakra is used in genjutsu and taijutsu aswell and as a physical entity it is not genjutsu , but it is not a jutsu because it uses no hand signs(many jutsus dont but still) and also( unlike with rasengan............), he does not even mold his chakra , i think this alone shows KM is not gen or nin jutsu

senjutsu probably has its own catagory

 

[Ninpou]

im done haters gonna hate by the way this is gonna end up in the hot list

so i guess a human can't have oppion anymore

You posted this so you could discuss it with people, dont post if you dont like other peoples opinoins. Haters gonna hate? Please stop with that rubbish.

 

[izinagi54]

You posted this so you could discuss it with people, dont post if you dont like other peoples opinoins. Haters gonna hate? Please stop with that rubbish.

byt the way since when was quality greater then qauntity

lets see 10,000 shadow clones vs was shinra tensei

i think 10,000 shadow clones would take heavy casulities but they would ultimatley win

now want a real world example

1070 tiger tanks produced now thats a lot resources they lost the war

52.000 sherman tanks produced they won the war

 

[-Vegeta-]

Lmao Naruto's far far far from being the most versatile ninja ever. He's nothing but rasengan and shadow clones.

Shinobi more versatile than him.

Itachi
Sasuke
Madara
Hiruzen
Nagato
Kisame
Oonoki
Muu
Jiraiya
Kakashi

There's more as well.

 

[Killer Vision]

He's getting there needs to use his brain a bit more..

naruto is an intelligent shinobi. This is clearly shown when he defeated 6 paths of pain...but this trait of his is often times overshadowed by his goofiness.

(a Qoute from Databook)
Although Naruto's intelligence is greatly downplayed for most of the series, his skills in deception and strategy are actually extremely high. According to Kakashi, this is all thanks to his cunning and imagination as a former prankster, which allows him to fool perceptive and dangerous jōnin-level shinobi like Zabuza Momochi in Part I and even defeat S-rank ninja such as Kakuzu and Pain in Part II.

naruto would lose in a pure taijutsu battle , if you restrict every single jutsu he has.... but hes not far off.... and a chakra cloak is chakra , not ninjutsu , chakra is used in genjutsu and taijutsu aswell and as a physical entity it is not genjutsu , but it is not a jutsu because it uses no hand signs(many jutsus dont but still) and also( unlike with rasengan............), he does not even mold his chakra , i think this alone shows KM is not gen or nin jutsu

senjutsu probably has its own catagory

Its hard to Defeat him in taijutsu because he now posses the Frog kata which enhances the user's speed, strength, stamina and durability. This allows a sage to do incredible feats which include leaping great distances, shattering sharp materials with their hands, as well as lifting objects several times their size. Remember how he demolish the Preta Path with 1 blow?

 

[Oronagato]

naruto is nothing close to the most versatile

although he is powerful, he lacks far ranged jutsus, lacks fuinjutsu, lacks genjutsu, lacks defensve jutsus, plus he lacks elemental jutsus

the most versatile are Hashirama, Madara, Sasuke, Hiruzen, Onoki, etc. naruto is one of the most powerful maybe but nothing close to the most versatile

 

[Ryuu..]

No genjutsu whatsoever. How can you even reach such a conclusion?

 

[Anorien16]

I would vote Kakashi for being most versatile among the living, 1000 different copied jutsu is not mere achievement.

 

[Beetle]

Minato or Tobi is the most versatile .. simply because S/T ninjutsu is the most versatile jutsu there is.