"Naruto is nothing without Kurama"argument is honestly stupid
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With sage mode he is already kage level so i dont get how is that considered "nothing".
Even in base adult naruto is above the 5 kages.
Even in base adult naruto is above the 5 kages.
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Naruto never beat Kurama by himself. Kushina used the last of chakra inside him to hold down Kurama and let her son win.
Kurama is the prime reason why he won almost all his fights :lol
Kurama is the prime reason why he won almost all his fights :lol
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I dont remember seeing anybody helping him beat kiba, kabuto, kakuzu nor pain, on kakuzu part he was indeed saved by kakashi and yamato but they never helped him at beating him and on the pain fight you gotta remember that the reason why he lost was because he lost his sage mode dual to kurama not wanting him to rely on sage power as he admitted himself at chap 645, So its not his fault that he had to rely on it to scape but still he ended up defeating all the pains without someone else help.
But in the meanwhile i am still laughing at how you ignore the fact that part 2 sasuke has never truly won a fight without relying on someone's else ability :lol
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Don't forget this.
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And this interview about Gaara.
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That was never confirmed from what I remember. It was just given to him by Hagoromo like how Sasuke got Rennnigan. That said, much like how Rennigan wouldn't disappear if one loses Rikudo Chakra (Madara's case), Naruto wouldn't lose RSM even if it required Bijuu Chakra to initially unlock.
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Naruto manifested RSM after acquiring all Chakra's of 9 Biju. That just makes him Pseudo-Jinchūriki of the Jubi. Hagoromo never gave Naruto RSM, he simply made them physically manifest inside Naruto.
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Well, my point still stands. Even if Naruto lose all the Bijuus Chakras, he would still have RSM, since all they did was trigger the form, they're not used to maintain it.
No, he can't. You don't have proof of that. Neither Madara or Obito manifested RSM after the Jubi was taken out. RSM is manifested only by either becoming Jubi's Jinchuriki or possessing 9 Biju's Chakra or Tenseigan or direct relative to Kaguya. Without Biju's Chakra, he can't manifest RSM. Stop making fanfics.
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He has Six Path Senjustu from gaining the Yang half of Hagoromo's chakra. Kurama and the other Bijuu just enhances it with chakra mode.
On the other hand, it's kinda hypocritical when you guys try to do the same thing about Sasuke's Sharingan, which is a bloodline limit :lol
You can't compare eyes with a separate living being:lol
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On the other hand, it's kinda hypocritical when you guys try to do the same thing about Sasuke's Sharingan, which is a bloodline limit :lol
You can't compare eyes with a separate living being:lol
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There is plenty of proof. Six Paths chakra can be acquired from Hagoromo, by combining the chakra of Hagoromo's sons — Indra and Asura — to form the Rinnegan, or by becoming the jinchūriki of the Ten-Tails. Naruto and Sasuke received their six paths yang and yin power directly from Hagoromo. Naruto had the chakra of the tailed beasts within him that they gave him, not the actual tailed beasts. That chakra had absolutely nothing to do with being able to use RSM.
Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo) is a form which empowers the user's abilities to a far greater extent by utilising the Six Paths Sage Chakra. It is a divine state gifted by Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki to those who have an iron faith and the guts to never give up. -4th databook
Proof in manga: Hagoromo says he is giving the power to Sasuke, and this proves he gave it to them both.
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That should be plenty of evidence for you. It's canon that he received the power from Hagoromo. Clear as day.
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Naruto may fight with Kurama since he is inside him, but Naruto, were he to theoretically live without Kurama, would still have access to his powers, just as Kishimoto confirmed with Gaara and showed with the Gold and Silver brothers.
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You were right the first time. The chakra of the tailed beasts has nothing to do with him gaining RSM.
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The strongest characters in the series all have advantages that boost their power. Sharingan, Senju genes, Byakugan, any kekkei genkai. Naruto is an Uzumaki. His chakra reserves and stamina without Kurama are still amazing. Naruto can still use RSM without Kurama, and even without RSM he is still most likely stronger than the other Kage. Even if Kurama carried him through much of the show, at this point his power without Kurama is still of the highest level.