Naruto is not IMMUNE to IT

[rinnegan human puppet]

Agreed. In this case, the probability of Naruto being resistant or immune is greater than the probability of Naruto not being resistant or immune, thanks to the Manga.




Well said, but you know them. Excuses, excuses.



Fair enough.



So the argument goes from "Only Rinnegan can counter IT" to "As long as you're not a real human, you're good".

Here's the thing, even animals were affected. If the statement of "Only Rinnegan being able to counter IT" holds, then no matter what, BZ, The Edo's and Obito should've been caught.



My god they keep coming with excuses upon excuses after being shut down multiple times.




Agreed, but you do realize you're one of them.




This has always been a thing.



XD Such fanfic. Don't quote me with such trollish posts.



I rekt the OP with my first post and no I didn't bring any character irrelevant to the discussion. Stop making things up.



And there are more proving my favs superiority.



Okay.



Maybe, but that can't be applied to the situation we're talking about.



The way he was going about it made him seem he felt no one could stand up to him.



Already did. Like I said, I rekt the point of this thread with my first post.




And you got nothing to back it up. Pity.



You couldn't be anymore wrong.
There's no proof that Naruto is or isn't immune or resistant to IT.
If we're going by what is said in the manga that only Rinnegan can counter IT, what about BZ, The Edo's and Obito?
That completely debunks the statement of Rinnegan being the only thing that can counter IT.




Bingo. But you know them, anything just to "try" to get one over Naruto.

Sad. :lol

OT : In conclusion, everyone who stated Naruto not to be immune or resistant and would get caught has miserably failed to prove it, thus remains as nothing more than desperate fanfic at best.

/Thread.

Ok nick I know you hate that sasuke has this over naruto. But just stop being biased.. just for one second.. ok?

Sasuke stated they were unable to beat madara/kaguya by themselves and that they needed each other. Correct? Thus doing everything to help/save naruto when needed and completely disregarding the rest of team 7, correct?

*madara starts IT*

*Sasuke immediately rushes to cover naruto*

*IT is on going*

*Naruto attempts to leave the cover due to sensing hinata’s danger*

*Sasuke stops naruto from leaving the cover*

*sasuke states everyone outside his susano has been caught and that if naruto leaves he will be caught as well. Due to his rinnegan being the only thing protecting team 7 from IT*

*IT ends*

*BZ restates this, sasuke’s rinnegan was what protected team 7*

Why is that so hard to admit? The manga stated it. Why does it bother you? Because of VS? Regardless every known IT user would still comfortably beat naruto, regardless of IT or not.. so why does it bother you?

 

[davidou]

Asura's power never helped with IT.

Assumption.

If it was so, Zetsu wouldve known about it.

Assumtion.

He thought the Rinne Light cant be blocked, which stands to point no power from Indras era could stop it unless Hagoromo/Hamura retaliates.

Susano's blocked the IT light, isn' t Susano'o a power from Indra?
Anything else consistent to add to the thread?

OT: I don' t think he is immune to IT, but everything is possible until proven impossible, and you didn' t prove it was impossible.Try harder.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Youre saying Sasukes claim about creating a SusanoO combining both eyes is false? Both eyes combined create nine tomoe whichs imbued to the SusanoO hence the deterration.

Madara was able to create susanoo without any eyes lol.

 

[Nick01]

Ok nick I know you hate that sasuke has this over naruto. But just stop being biased.. just for one second.. ok?

Not true, but I will respect this post of yours and respond accordingly.

Sasuke stated they were unable to beat madara/kaguya by themselves and that they needed each other. Correct?

Agreed.

Thus doing everything to help/save naruto when needed and completely disregarding the rest of team 7, correct?

Agreed.

*madara starts IT*

*Sasuke immediately rushes to cover naruto*

*IT is on going*

*Naruto attempts to leave the cover due to sensing hinata’s danger*

*Sasuke stops naruto from leaving the cover*

*sasuke states everyone outside his susano has been caught and that if naruto leaves he will be caught as well. Due to his rinnegan being the only thing protecting team 7 from IT*

*IT ends*

*BZ restates this, sasuke’s rinnegan was what protected team 7*

Yep, that happened.

Why is that so hard to admit? The manga stated it. Why does it bother you? Because of VS? Regardless every known IT user would still comfortably beat naruto, regardless of IT or not.. so why does it bother you?

I'm not denying what happened. Thing is people make assumptions such as Naruto being caught when the only thing they have going for them is the statement of "Rinnegan being the only thing to counter IT", which has been debunked. Is it stated in the Manga why BZ, The Edo's and Obito were left unaffected even though they possessed no Rinnegan??

I'm not saying Naruto is immune or that he can resist IT, because I can't really prove it. However it also can't be proved that Naruto isn't immune or he can't resist IT in some way.

 

[Shruikan]

Not true, but I will respect this post of yours and respond accordingly.



Agreed.


Agreed.



Yep, that happened.



I'm not denying what happened. Thing is people make assumptions such as Naruto being caught when the only thing they have going for them is the statement of "Rinnegan being the only thing to counter IT", which has been debunked. Is it stated in the Manga why BZ, The Edo's and Obito were left unaffected even though they possessed no Rinnegan??

I'm not saying Naruto is immune or that he can resist IT, because I can't really prove it. However it also can't be proved that Naruto isn't immune or he can't resist IT in some way.

The author's intent should be seen in scenes like this. The author had Sasuke stop Naruto from going outside. Otherwise there was no point to it.

I don't understand why you guys feel so insecure when Sasuke can resist IT but Naruto can't. It wouldn't matter in Sasuke's case anyway because all IT users would wreck him even if he manages to resist IT and be the last man standing.

 

[Warlocks]

I suggests you learn what an assumption is

and I suggests you to do the same

Naruto not being immune isn't an assumption, it's outright stated in the manga.

prove it with manga fact

and why would sasuke know how RSM work

The only counter argument from you tards is "sasuke was wrong" even though the manga doesn't actually prove him wrong considering naruto ended up camping inside and not proving his fanfic immunity like his slurpers claim.

insulting me does not make u look good or any better

yes manga prove him 100% wrong

1.rinnegan can cancel IT =wrong
2.only rinnegan can counter IT =wrong

a.obito only had six path sage chakra yet he was unaffected by IT
b.bz is only part of kaguya and he had no rinnagan

I mean with this terrible logic anyone can make a claim not backed by the manga and then say the opposite is an assumption. Just ridiculous

where is your evidence ( backed by the manga) that i am wrong:bye:

 

[Uverdore9]

Agreed. In this case, the probability of Naruto being resistant or immune is greater than the probability of Naruto not being resistant or immune, thanks to the Manga.




Well said, but you know them. Excuses, excuses.



Fair enough.



So the argument goes from "Only Rinnegan can counter IT" to "As long as you're not a real human, you're good".

Here's the thing, even animals were affected. If the statement of "Only Rinnegan being able to counter IT" holds, then no matter what, BZ, The Edo's and Obito should've been caught.



My god they keep coming with excuses upon excuses after being shut down multiple times.




Agreed, but you do realize you're one of them.




This has always been a thing.



XD Such fanfic. Don't quote me with such trollish posts.



I rekt the OP with my first post and no I didn't bring any character irrelevant to the discussion. Stop making things up.



And there are more proving my favs superiority.



Okay.



Maybe, but that can't be applied to the situation we're talking about.



The way he was going about it made him seem he felt no one could stand up to him.



Already did. Like I said, I rekt the point of this thread with my first post.




And you got nothing to back it up. Pity.



You couldn't be anymore wrong.
There's no proof that Naruto is or isn't immune or resistant to IT.
If we're going by what is said in the manga that only Rinnegan can counter IT, what about BZ, The Edo's and Obito?
That completely debunks the statement of Rinnegan being the only thing that can counter IT.




Bingo. But you know them, anything just to "try" to get one over Naruto.

Sad. :lol

OT : In conclusion, everyone who stated Naruto not to be immune or resistant and would get caught has miserably failed to prove it, thus remains as nothing more than desperate fanfic at best.

/Thread.

Bringing Sakura into this when this thread is wholly about Naruto and IT-only is not derailing/diverting because you cant give a straight answer to my OP?

There is no panel which proves superiority of naruto above sakura, whereas theres 6 panels(including boruto) in minimum to prove latter. I bet youd use the same excuses youre using here if I create a thread where judging feats on feats is priority.

Do you even know what a troll means? You state not to quote you with trollish posts yet your post is all what a troll stands for.

- Diverging from question.
- bringing other characters to somehow start a fanwar.
- Using excuses to override facts.
- Not using manga to prove your part.

Etc cera cera.

By the way if you didnt want OP of thread quoting you in first place stop posting in my thread for starters. Make your own fangroup discussion and youll enjoy a peaceful discussion where no one challenges your little beliefs.

Assumption.

Explain how its assumption. Zetsu knew about asura. If he thought his power is useful for IT he wouldnt be so surprised.

Assumtion.

Above.

Susano's blocked the IT light, isn' t Susano'o a power from Indra?
Anything else consistent to add to the thread?

Rinnegan SusanoO is not power from indra.

OT: I don' t think he is immune to IT, but everything is possible until proven impossible, and you didn' t prove it was impossible.Try harder.

Proven. But your favouritism and fanbase logic is interfering between your factual analysis, from seperating denial from facts.

Madara was able to create susanoo without any eyes lol.

What does this have anything to do with sasuke? Sasuke used susanoO with Rinnegan hence why he used word ramped up SusanoO.

 

[shadowcb]

The author's intent should be seen in scenes like this. The author had Sasuke stop Naruto from going outside. Otherwise there was no point to it.

I don't understand why you guys feel so insecure when Sasuke can resist IT but Naruto can't. It wouldn't matter in Sasuke's case anyway because all IT users would wreck him even if he manages to resist IT and be the last man standing.

You're wrong, that's wasn't the author's intent. That's what some of you fans want to believe. The reason Sasuke didn't want Naruto to exit his Susanoo was because he needed Naruto's help to defeat Madara. He couldn't risk Naruto exiting Susanoo and not being immune to IT.

What you must understand is Sasuke doesn't know enough about Naruto's power or IT for any of his claims about either to be fact. He thought the rinnegan was the only thing needed to defeat IT, he was proven wrong. That makes his statement an assumption, not fact.

 

[Yata Mirror]

I wouldn't say immunity as no-one but the Caster and the undead are really immune.
To he immune means to stand there and just tank it which neither Sasuke nor Naruto can do.
Sasuke can't tank it.. He needs his Susan'no to not get caught in it.

Now how about Naruto? Sasuke claimed Naruto would've got caught if he had gone outside and we're shown that Sasuke made that based on the assumption that IT is a Rinnegan jutsu and can be dispelled by the Rinnegan.
But how do we know Sasuke is fully right? Sasuke doesn't know the extent of Naruto's RSM abilities. He got surprised that Naruto gave Kakashi a new eye. So the truth is we can't take Sasuke's word as proof. And thus what we've been shown isn't enough to conclude Naruto can't evade it. He could shield himself in TSO

 

[Uverdore9]

Sasukes word wasnt disputed by Naruto. Show me a statement ending with exclamation mark being proven wrong.

'NARUTO IF YOU GO out, YouLL be caught IN THE GENJutsu!'

He wasnt doubtful. Kakashi knew the size of the moon without visiting moon. Hashirama knew Sakura stronger than Tsunade despite 5 year old Tsunade in his memory.

Every statement is correct in Manga.

 

[shadowcb]

Sasukes word wasnt disputed by Naruto. Show me a statement ending with exclamation mark being proven wrong.

'NARUTO IF YOU GO out, YouLL be caught IN THE GENJutsu!'

He wasnt doubtful. Kakashi knew the size of the moon without visiting moon. Hashirama knew Sakura stronger than Tsunade despite 5 year old Tsunade in his memory.

Every statement is correct in Manga.

Once again, Sasuke doesn't know enough about Naruto's power or IT for any of his claims about either to be fact. He thought the rinnegan was the only thing needed to defeat IT, he was proven wrong. That makes his statement an assumption, not fact.

It's foolish for us to believe Sasuke's statement about Naruto to be fact when he was proven wrong about how to defeat IT. That alone proves he doesn't know enough about IT for his statements to be fact. This is the first time he has ever dealt with that jutsu. He had zero knowledge about this jutsu prior to dealing with it.

 

[Animegoin]

Reading this thread from the beginning to end irks me because I got here so late. Smh

 

[Uverdore9]

Once again, Sasuke doesn't know enough about Naruto's power or IT for any of his claims about either to be fact. He thought the rinnegan was the only thing needed to defeat IT, he was proven wrong. That makes his statement an assumption, not fact.

It's foolish for us to believe Sasuke's statement about Naruto to be fact when he was proven wrong about how to defeat IT. That alone proves he doesn't know enough about IT for his statements to be fact. This is the first time he has ever dealt with that jutsu. He had zero knowledge about this jutsu prior to dealing with it.

This is your personal interpretation of what occured. Know the fact every statement is written by Kishimoto, The author of NV.

Its not Sasuke who said that; its Kishimoto. Kishimoto said Naruto cant resist IT so why should I care for anyone's opinion here? He wont resist because Kishimoto said it. You cant show me a statement which is proven wrong with exclamation mark then forget it. Naruto cant resist IT if he goes outside - Kishimoto.

 

[King Of Pop]

=Warlocks;21745527]
and I suggests you to do the same

I will

prove it with manga fact

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and why would sasuke know how RSM work

This is irrrelevant. He doesn't need to know how Rsm works. He knew enough to know that naruto needed his soosano protection and manga never proved him wrong. Manga has never stated anything about Rsm being able to counter IT so why should sasuke need to know how it works?

yes manga prove him 100% wrong

No it didn't

1.rinnegan can cancel IT =wrong
2.only rinnegan can counter IT =wrong

He never said ONLY rinnegan can cancel IT, and he used the words probably so in that specific case he was making an assumption unlike the above panel. And besides Rinnegan is needed to undo it so it's not like he was totally incorrect. Now show me where manga proved him wrong about naruto not being vulnerable to IT? show me any manga panel stating, showing or even implying that naruto is immune or has a counter? Don't bother because it doesn't exist. It only exist in the heads of his fappers who are obsessed with him being immune when nothing in the manga shows so.

a.obito only had six path sage chakra yet he was unaffected by IT
b.bz is only part of kaguya and he had no rinnagan

Irrelevant. BZ is kaguyas will and he was in control of obito's body. Is naruto kaguya's will? no, is he an Edo tensei? No, does he have a Rinnegan? No. Did the manga show him having a counter? NO. End of story

where is your evidence ( backed by the manga) that i am wrong:bye:

I have provided the statement saying naruto would be caught alongside naruto camping inside till the duration of IT. He totally relied on sasuke and not his fanfic immunity. That is evidence, at least much more than you and the others who say he is immune even though there is no statement saying such. It's clear which side has brought evidence and which one hasn't

Imagine being in love with a fictional character so much that you have to deny statements and events in the manga just so that character can be immune to a jutsu. You naruto fanboys kill me.

 

[SeveN797]

Here's the thing, even animals were affected. If the statement of "Only Rinnegan being able to counter IT" holds, then no matter what, BZ, The Edo's and Obito should've been caught.

Yup, if you're a living being you need Rinnegan.
IT worked on animals, because in general genjutsu works on them, I mean for example sharingan genjutsu works on summons does it not?
Edo's are undead
Obito would have been caught, if not for BZ and BZ is as real living being as Edo's are. He's just a separated part of Kaguya aka her will that can speak and have some shapeshifting abilities, nothing more.

 

[salamander uchiha]

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This is irrrelevant. He doesn't need to know how Rsm works. He knew enough to know that naruto needed his soosano protection and manga never proved him wrong. Manga has never stated anything about Rsm being able to counter IT so why should sasuke need to know how it works?


No it didn't



He never said ONLY rinnegan can cancel IT, and he used the words probably so in that specific case he was making an assumption unlike the above panel. And besides Rinnegan is needed to undo it so it's not like he was totally incorrect. Now show me where manga proved him wrong about naruto not being vulnerable to IT? show me any manga panel stating, showing or even implying that naruto is immune or has a counter? Don't bother because it doesn't exist. It only exist in the heads of his fappers who are obsessed with him being immune when nothing in the manga shows so.


Irrelevant. BZ is kaguyas will and he was in control of obito's body. Is naruto kaguya's will? no, is he an Edo tensei? No, does he have a Rinnegan? No. Did the manga show him having a counter? NO. End of story


I have provided the statement saying naruto would be caught alongside naruto camping inside till the duration of IT. He totally relied on sasuke and not his fanfic immunity. That is evidence, at least much more than you and the others who say he is immune even though there is no statement saying such. It's clear which side has brought evidence and which one hasn't

Imagine being in love with a fictional character so much that you have to deny statements and events in the manga just so that character can be immune to a jutsu. You naruto fanboys kill me.

Did you question their fanfic!?

Ps. Would rep you if I could.

Reading this thread from the beginning to end irks me because I got here so late. Smh

Feel free to add your input.

 

[Uverdore9]

Kishimoto is not writing two to three pages of words saying naruto'll be over with, if he faces against Infinite Tsukoyomi. Kishimoto with his mind and pen drew this scan and sent it for publishing yet look at some NB fanfics going straight out against it.

 

[davidou]

Explain how its assumption. Zetsu knew about asura. If he thought his power is useful for IT he wouldnt be so surprised.


Above.


Rinnegan SusanoO is not power from indra.



Proven. But your favouritism and fanbase logic is interfering between your factual analysis, from seperating denial from facts.

You make the assumption that if zetsu knew Asura he would know that Asura could protect against IT, but nothing proves it, many scenaris are possible, making your claim an assumption.

Above.

The fact that Sasuke rinnegan help to block the IT light was not mentionned in the manga...Another assumption.

Again an assumption, you claim it is proven although you have no proof, I'm not surprised considering that you love to claim unproved things, that doesn' t make you look smart.


It' s funny how fans can believe in something unproved like if it was proven.I feel they are crazy.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

What does this have anything to do with sasuke? Sasuke used susanoO with Rinnegan hence why he used word ramped up SusanoO.

If Madara could use it without any eyes, don't see what's the problem here if Sasuke could use it with his rinnegan.

 

[Uverdore9]

You make the assumption that if zetsu knew Asura he would know that Asura could protect against IT, but nothing proves it, many scenaris are possible, making your claim an assumption.

Above.

The fact that Sasuke rinnegan help to block the IT light was not mentionned in the manga...Another assumption.

Again an assumption, you claim it is proven although you have no proof, I'm not surprised considering that you love to claim unproved things, that doesn' t make you look smart.


It' s funny how fans can believe in something unproved like if it was proven.I feel they are crazy.

Kishimoto states Zetsu is kaguya will knows indra and asura. Dont go against manga. Its like I can deconstruct every statement said in manga into my own will.

If Madara could use it without any eyes, don't see what's the problem here if Sasuke could use it with his rinnegan.

Youre missing point. Sasuke states blatantly he used both eyes to create SusanoO. Rinnegan Tomoe infused SusanoO deterred the light.