Naruto is not IMMUNE to IT

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21744846" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21744846">Mori Jin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Where did you get that fanfic from? Which chapter states this? Or databook? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Simple logic about life</div>
 

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Sasuke's dimensional travel is nothing like Kaguya's and given enough chakra even Obtio's MS could teleport the user to Kaguya's dimensions. Not to mention Sasuke is severely drained after using it.
Obito's Kamui is similar to Amenominaka - Obito words.

Sasuke can traverse Kaguya dimensions without much chakra; proving its the closest jutsu to Ameniminaka.
 

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Obito's Kamui is similar to Amenominaka - Obito words.

Sasuke can traverse Kaguya dimensions without much chakra; proving its the closest jutsu to Ameniminaka.
One could say all doujutsu based T/S techniques are similar but I agree to Obito's words.

Sasuke gets weakened and drained after traversing to Kaguya's dimension so no.
 

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One could say all doujutsu based T/S techniques are similar but I agree to Obito's words.

Sasuke gets weakened and drained after traversing to Kaguya's dimension so no.
Whichs because Kaguya posesses Juubi which contain the most enormous chakra quantity.

Ftg cannot access Obito kamui because sealed space.

Likewise kamui's parental origin is this jutsu whichs why kamui resonated with her portal - Obito words.


Sasukes jutsu is almost the same; difference being amount of chakra.
 

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Black Zetsu is not a Rinnegan user, nor was Obito at that time or the Edo Hokages. That excuse of only the Rinnegan working, is not going to cut it. Either use actual facts, or stop using Sasuke assumptions (which was proven wrong) as some kind of fact.
Black Zetsu doesn't require a Rinnegan because he is inherently immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi. This is due to the fact that Kaguya is immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi and Black Zetsu is an extension of her will. The technique that Black Zetsu uses to control Obito is referred to as , and the dynamics of this techniques affords the host the same immunity that Black Zetsu has. The wikia isn't always a reliable source of information, as some things are subject to alteration upon a users discretion, but most if not all of its content maintains base validity, and is edited and corrected mostly by the Admin, a Naruto expert. As long as Obito is the host of Black Zetsu, he is immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi because Black Zetsu is.
 

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Whichs because Kaguya posesses Juubi which contain the most enormous chakra quantity.

Ftg cannot access Obito kamui because sealed space.

Likewise kamui's parental origin is this jutsu whichs why kamui resonated with her portal - Obito words.


Sasukes jutsu is almost the same; difference being amount of chakra.
Its not.
 

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Simple logic about life
So fanfic lol. Concession Accepted

Black Zetsu doesn't require a Rinnegan because he is inherently immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi. This is due to the fact that Kaguya is immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi and Black Zetsu is an extension of her will. The technique that Black Zetsu uses to control Obito is referred to as , and the dynamics of this techniques affords the host the same immunity that Black Zetsu has. The wikia isn't always a reliable source of information, as some things are subject to alteration upon a users discretion, but most if not all of its content maintains base validity, and is edited and corrected mostly by the Admin, a Naruto expert. As long as Obito is the host of Black Zetsu, he is immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi because Black Zetsu is.
Prove he doesn't require A Rinnegan? Don't just make up statements. Naruto doesn't require A Rinnegan either.
 
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Prove he doesn't require A Rinnegan? Don't just make up statements. Naruto doesn't require A Rinnegan either.
I'm not making up any statements. Black Zetsu is immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi for the same exact reason that Kaguya is. Because he is a part of Kaguya, and extension of her will. Obito is only immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi because he is being manipulated by Black Zetsu's canon technique, , which subjects him to the same immunities as Black Zetsu. If Black Zetsu were to remove himself from Obito's body, Obito would definitely be affected by the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

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I'm not making up any statements. Black Zetsu is immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi for the same exact reason that Kaguya is. Because he is a part of Kaguya, and extension of her will. Obito is only immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi because he is being manipulated by Black Zetsu's canon technique, , which subjects him to the same immunities as Black Zetsu. If Black Zetsu were to remove himself from Obito's body, Obito would definitely be affected by the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

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Yes it is a baseless statement. You can't claim only Rinnegan users can counter it and then claim black Zetsu did it because of Kaguya. Yet claim Naruto can't without any evidence whatsoever. Either only rinnegan can counter it or Rikudo users in general can. Really using the wikia as some kind of proof? Anyone with an account can edit that.

Name 1 Rikudo user, that has ever been caught in Infinite Tsukyomi, just 1.
 

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Yes it is a baseless statement. You can't claim only Rinnegan users can counter it and then claim black Zetsu did it because of Kaguya. Yet claim Naruto can't without any evidence whatsoever. Either only rinnegan can counter it or Rikudo users in general can. Really using the wikia as some kind of proof? Anyone with an account can edit that.

Name 1 Rikudo user, that has ever been caught in Infinite Tsukyomi, just 1.
I actually never said that ONLY Rinnegan users can counter it, nor did I say that Naruto couldn't counter it :coffee: and yes, I used wikia, because like I said before, the wikia isn't always a reliable source of information, as some things are subject to alteration upon a users discretion, but most if not all of its content maintains base validity, and is edited and corrected mostly by the Admin, a Naruto expert.
 
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I actually never said that ONLY Rinnegan users can counter it, nor did I say that Naruto couldn't counter it :coffee: and yes, I used wikia, because like I said before, the wikia isn't always a reliable source of information, as some things are subject to alteration upon a users discretion, but most if not all of its content maintains base validity, and is edited and corrected mostly by the Admin, a Naruto expert.

@Bold: What's your point on then? Either he will be effected by it or not. If you think he does prove it. Can't be asked with this repetitive back and forth.
 

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@Bold: What's your point on then? Either he will be effected by it or not. If you think he does prove it. Can't be asked with this repetitive back and forth.
If you haven't gathered my point in my last few posts, and if think you're going to take the high road by complaining about this "repetitive back and forth" then I'm done with this debate. Whether you see my point or not is irrelevant because everyone else has. Goodbye
 
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If you haven't gathered my point in my last few posts, and if think you're going to take the high road by complaining about this "repetitive back and forth" then I'm not with debate. Whether you see my point or not is irrelevant because everyone else has. Goodbye
Nothing then, wasn't expecting much. Baseless assumptions with nothing to back it up smh. I'll take it as a concession.
 

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Naruto is not IMMUNE to IT = assumptions

Naruto is IMMUNE to IT = assumptions
I agree very sound reasoning tool allow me to employ it.

Sakura having rokudo chakra = assumption.

Sakura not having rokudo chakra = assumption.

The proof is Sakura being able to resist, react and move to attack while under the effects of rokudo rods that only Rokudo users can touch.
 

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Canon logic at it's finest.

Anybody can do anything in absence of anything negating their ability to do so.
Agreed. In this case, the probability of Naruto being resistant or immune is greater than the probability of Naruto not being resistant or immune, thanks to the Manga.


A Rikudo enhanced cloak of chakra (Susano'o) protected Sasuke from Infinite Tsukyomi. Naruto's cloak of chakra and Bijuu mode is also Rikudo enhanced, hell his one also has the added benefits of having Rikudo Sage Mode; which Sasuke doesn't have.

Now to all these butthurt fanboys here, claiming that Naruto can't counter it; and that only a Rinnegan user can. How then did Obito a non-Rinnegan user (at that time) not get caught? The only thing he had at that time was Rikudo chakra, like Naruto and Sasuke. How did Black Zetsu not get caught in it? He didn't have the Rinnegan either. He (by default) also had Rikudo chakra because, he was a piece of Kaguya. How did the Edo Hokages not get caught, without them having either the Rinnegan or Rikudo chakra? When the only thing that can supposedly counter it, is the Rinnegan? Why did Kaguya not use it against Naruto, when she/black Zetsu knew he "cant" counter it? It would have ended the fight easily?

Long story short. Rikudo users can counter it. Those in denial, go and prove he can't.
Well said, but you know them. Excuses, excuses.

I don't care about debates with IT being used against Naruto, or who is the author of this thread.
Fair enough.

Sasuke made that statement and it holds, because later on no one argued or proved him wrong about it.

BZ isn't real human, neither are Edo's and Obito wasn't affected only because BZ completely took over his body.
So the argument goes from "Only Rinnegan can counter IT" to "As long as you're not a real human, you're good".

Here's the thing, even animals were affected. If the statement of "Only Rinnegan being able to counter IT" holds, then no matter what, BZ, The Edo's and Obito should've been caught.

But according to you uchiha fanboys only a Rinnegan user can counter it. Black Zetsu might be a piece of Kaguya, but he doesn't have a Rinnegan, neither did Obito or the Edo Hokages. So how did 6 non-Rinnegan users counter a technique that can (according to you) only be countered by a Rinnegan?
My god they keep coming with excuses upon excuses after being shut down multiple times. :lmao:


It's unfortunate but fanboying has blinded people to the actual facts.
Agreed, but you do realize you're one of them.


Sasuke faps clearly disagrees with manga facts
This has always been a thing.

Deflecting? Your fanfic suggests Naruto>>>Sakura, whilst manga suggests Sakura>>>>Naruto, who should I believe I wonder?
XD Such fanfic. Don't quote me with such trollish posts.

If you had a straight answer to OP you wouldnt have brought a character irrelevant to this discussion, proving you dont have one,
I rekt the OP with my first post and no I didn't bring any character irrelevant to the discussion. Stop making things up.

especially when thier are more than 6 panels proving superiority over your fave.
And there are more proving my favs superiority.

Strongest doesnt mean unbeatable.
Okay.

An ant could be weaker than elephant does that mean this elephant cant be defeated with a poisonous bite strong enough?
Maybe, but that can't be applied to the situation we're talking about.

Sasuke never said hes absolutely invincible which is immunity to defeat.
The way he was going about it made him seem he felt no one could stand up to him.

Posted Proof in OP. Go read.
Already did. Like I said, I rekt the point of this thread with my first post.


Naruto was. Sasuke wasnt. Tomoe Rinnegan is a never before seen ocular Power. Asuras power existed back then naruto got said power copy pasted.
And you got nothing to back it up. Pity.

Every fanbase has that one ridiculous thing they try to pass off. For hardcore naruto fans this is it. Lol.. I mean it is blatantly shown and stated in the manga.
You couldn't be anymore wrong.
There's no proof that Naruto is or isn't immune or resistant to IT.
If we're going by what is said in the manga that only Rinnegan can counter IT, what about BZ, The Edo's and Obito?
That completely debunks the statement of Rinnegan being the only thing that can counter IT.


Naruto is not IMMUNE to IT = assumptions

Naruto is IMMUNE to IT = assumptions
Bingo. But you know them, anything just to "try" to get one over Naruto.

Sad. :lol

OT : In conclusion, everyone who stated Naruto not to be immune or resistant and would get caught has miserably failed to prove it, thus remains as nothing more than desperate fanfic at best. :sigar:

/Thread.
 

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Naruto is not IMMUNE to IT = assumptions

Naruto is IMMUNE to IT = assumptions
I suggests you learn what an assumption is. Naruto not being immune isn't an assumption, it's outright stated in the manga. The only counter argument from you tards is "sasuke was wrong" even though the manga doesn't actually prove him wrong considering naruto ended up camping inside and not proving his fanfic immunity like his slurpers claim. I mean with this terrible logic anyone can make a claim not backed by the manga and then say the opposite is an assumption. Just ridiculous

I agree very sound reasoning tool allow me to employ it.

Sakura having rokudo chakra = assumption.

Sakura not having rokudo chakra = assumption.

The proof is Sakura being able to resist, react and move to attack while under the effects of rokudo rods that only Rokudo users can touch.
Right.

More like sakura/tsunade can use rasengan=assumption
sakura/tsunade cannot use rasengan=assumption

Afterall they have high level cc which is essential in learning jutsu so they can use rasengan and nothing suggests otherwise :lol. Hilarious really
 

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I suggests you learn what an assumption is. Naruto not being immune isn't an assumption, it's outright stated in the manga. The only counter argument from you tards is "sasuke was wrong" even though the manga doesn't actually prove him wrong considering naruto ended up camping inside and not proving his fanfic immunity like his slurpers claim. I mean with this terrible logic anyone can make a claim not backed by the manga and then say the opposite is an assumption. Just ridiculous


Right.

More like sakura/tsunade can use rasengan=assumption
sakura/tsunade cannot use rasengan=assumption

Afterall they have high level cc which is essential in learning jutsu so they can use rasengan and nothing suggests otherwise :lol. Hilarious really
backward logic only becomes acceptable when fanboys use it lol
 
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