Naruto is in kage level?

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1) how does sasuke underestimating make him stronger, it makes him just think he is
2) sasuke is kage level
3) naruto is beyond kage level.
Agreed and maybe Sasuke??? atm he did defeatl a few kage level ninja's
eg ( danzo, oro even tho he was in a weak state, killer bee, and possibly raikage) this was all without EMS. Also itachi hes a maybe aswell.
jiraiya,orochimaru and white fang is also in the kage level.
 

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Naruto and Sasuke are both Kage level, Sasuke is way smart, NAruto is kinda dumb but learning.... they are not kage level in intelligence yet...

They are not Madara and Hashirama level though i don't think so....

I got a few questions:

1.Do you think Sasuke can defeat Madara (MS-EMS and IF he had Kurama)

2. Would Naruto be able to fight Hashirama who defeated Madara and Kurama...?
 

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Agreed and maybe Sasuke??? atm he did defeatl a few kage level ninja's
eg ( danzo, oro even tho he was in a weak state, killer bee, and possibly raikage) this was all without EMS. Also itachi hes a maybe aswell.
wahhhht, Bee punctured sasuke and would have killed him if it wern't for karin, then he blew his chest open, then he would have died if it wasn't for juugo, then bee thought it would be a good idea to hide so he gets free time, he did not get beaten in any way, niether did the raikage,....Itachi is kage level,.

thee only reason i'm saying current madara and tobi are the only people above kage level, is because it takes multiple kage level ninjs to beat them...madara Vs 5 kage...then Tobi vs Bee, naruto kakashi and gai... which are 4 kage level ninja...kakashi is debateable but imo he's low kage..bee and naruto are each stronger than any of the current kages
 

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naruto is not kage level without kurama...
o_O since naruto is a jinchurikki..... IT would be like saying Madara isn't hokage level without sharingan. And Sasuke isn't hokage level without sharingan. Please don't bring stupid B.S into this. Its a fact that hes past the kage level. A clone of his can stand with gaara and be effective..... and he has many clones out there meaning he doesn't have full energy with him . So most of the people putting Madara and The 1st into this are dumb. I recall The1st barerly beating madara.... and with his wifes help. O_x . So madara with the wood thing, Ems, Rinngan is beyond the first. And also the dumb people sayin naruto isn't mature... ARE YOU SERIOUS?! . The guy understands more then kakashi and can actually take action. Most of you guys are being baised and thinking Naruto isn't much and just want to support your fav character. Well WAKE UP CALL PEOPLE.... hes gonna be the modern day Sage of 6 paths. (his kyyuubi mode look carefully). Also kakashi isn't a kage level. Naruto surpassed jiraya (kage level) and kakashi when he mastered the sage mode. And then when he started spreading peace and tryna stop the hate... he became a wise man...
 

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Naruto has not passed nor is he beyond kage level.

High kage level is when you can fight all 5 kages at the same time and only edo madara and tobi can do that. Nagato might also be in this tier although he would lose to all 5 kages

He is in the second tier, also known as mid kage level. This includes;
Bee
Him
Sasuke
Itachi
Minato
Hashirama

Seems like people are overestimating naruto rather than underestimating him.
Anyway he is deffo kage level, but not beyond. Not even madara and tobi are beyond kage level
 

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wahhhht, Bee punctured sasuke and would have killed him if it wern't for karin, then he blew his chest open, then he would have died if it wasn't for juugo, then bee thought it would be a good idea to hide so he gets free time, he did not get beaten in any way, niether did the raikage,....Itachi is kage level,.

thee only reason i'm saying current madara and tobi are the only people above kage level, is because it takes multiple kage level ninjs to beat them...madara Vs 5 kage...then Tobi vs Bee, naruto kakashi and gai... which are 4 kage level ninja...kakashi is debateable but imo he's low kage..bee and naruto are each stronger than any of the current kages
This is what I was thinking. The only people Sasuke truly beat were Danzou and Diedara. Itachi was dying and didn't plan to kill Sasuke. Orochimaru was handicapped, Sasuke got saved by Gaara against Raikage. Bee just used Sasuke to escape his village after basically killing him twice. Then using his Amaterasu to trick him and escape.
 

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Naruto has not passed nor is he beyond kage level.

High kage level is when you can fight all 5 kages at the same time and only edo madara and tobi can do that. Nagato might also be in this tier although he would lose to all 5 kages

He is in the second tier, also known as mid kage level. This includes;
Bee
Him
Sasuke
Itachi
Minato
Hashirama

Seems like people are overestimating naruto rather than underestimating him.
Anyway he is deffo kage level, but not beyond. Not even madara and tobi are beyond kage level
Whoa, your expectations for high Kage are pretty hard to achieve.

I doubt that Tobi could face the 5 Kage's and live to tell the tale of it without the sealed bijuus he has.
Plus, Edo Madara would be long gone if he wasn't, in fact, an Edo.

Meh, I guess that's your point. That one has the bijuus and the other is immortal. But still, I think your expectations are set way too high. :shrug:
 

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Whoa, your expectations for high Kage are pretty hard to achieve.

I doubt that Tobi could face the 5 Kage's and live to tell the tale of it without the sealed bijuus he has.
Plus, Edo Madara would be long gone if he wasn't, in fact, an Edo.

Meh, I guess that's your point. That one has the bijuus and the other is immortal. But still, I think your expectations are set way too high. :shrug:
Thats the whole point of being high level kage. You must be able to fight all 5 kage's.

Beyond kage level is only for the sage and his sons. If naruto and the others are beyond kage level, what is the sage and his sons :rolleyes:
 
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