Naruto has Yin-yang / CoAT confirmed.

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Although some of the information in the databook is questionable, this explanation seems to match what has occurred in the manga

Yes. U_U

Good thread..

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Thanks for sharing.
No problem. ;)

Yeah the databooks are just jumbled fan service
pay them no mind
Yeah there are a lot of discrepancies regarding nature releases, but the descriptions are all almost correct.

So the states were just Hiden and not release?

Because we've seen Madara, Obito, and naruto use yin yang release countless times.

No, those who have senjutsu of the six paths, and Kaguya(who apparently doesn't have senjutsu of the six paths since she doesn't have nine orbs floating around her, and has truth seeking orb(kekkei Moura) as a technique); all have perfect yin yang release. That hiden is a heading for the next para.

Naruto should've used the sword of nanononanaonaonboku.
He can but lacks experience, just like Sasuke's rinnegan techniques.

In other words, Madara can use it as well?
Yeah. :)
That also means he has Onmyoudon as well.

Yeah....the kanji of omyoudon is yin-yang and those who have the nine orbs floating behind them have inherent Omyoudon.
But just having gudoudamas doesn't mean that u have omyoudon, u need to blossom the six paths senjutsu(like how Obito was able to use them after blossoming the six paths senjutsu).


so was his healing from the sun seal or does he still have it?

Seal was for CT, it has nothing to do with CoAT.

Yeah its not mentioned on obitos bio that he has yin yang, but yet the manga proves he did. The DB has become a lot less credible. Even Sakura has it.
Yeah, there are a few errors in the Nature releases, but they may be sorted out when viz releases the english version.

Databook is a walking contradiction. Naruto's Nature Transformation is listed not have a Yin power, but he could use Yin-Yang; it's contradiction. And not only that, Gudduama do not carry essence of In'Youton, but it's the Onmyoudon is what does:

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Nothing is confirmed. Naruto doesn't have Yin-Yang and cannot erase Ninjutsu.​

No, its confirmed that u need to blossom rikudou senjutsu for yin-yang or omyoudon. U_U
 
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:| Wow, I guess some people are going to be in denial about some stuff in the databook. Looking at your comment, you seem to be really mad about something. To deny something the author has written himself would be really idiotic don't you think?



Here's another one :| Do you people even understand that going against the DB would be going against the author himself.



I agree with you overall, and yes, they're in denial, but there are some things I've seen like the databook(and yes, it was made by the author) that contradicts the story telling. Take Fate/stay night for instance. It had something like a databook. There was something labeled as an "anti-world" attack but was said to have a maximum target cap of several hundred people or some bullcrap like that. Characters in it were given higher agility stats then those faster than them in the visual novel's story.


What sets the databook apart from that? Well, there's an error to be sure (Naruto missing yin release). However, this could be a mislabel, and the author actually states he has the perfect usage of both, so that trumps it.
 

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:| Wow, I guess some people are going to be in denial about some stuff in the databook. Looking at your comment, you seem to be really mad about something. To deny something the author has written himself would be really idiotic don't you think?



Here's another one :| Do you people even understand that going against the DB would be going against the author himself.
when he uses the databook to clearly contradict himself ? yes i'll disregard it
its messy and unreliable so no i don't put much stock in it
if kishi put ino > madara in the databook would you be behind it ?
yeah didn't think so
 

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It's confirmed that he has all the elements so i believe he can.
Seems legit.
Yes. U_U

Yeah....the kanji of omyoudon is yin-yang and those who have the nine orbs floating behind them have inherent Omyoudon.
But just having gudoudamas doesn't mean that u have omyoudon, u need to blossom the six paths senjutsu(like how Obito was able to use them after blossoming the six paths senjutsu).
That's pretty much the case, as Juubito did not have it until he took full control of the Ten-Tails.
 

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I agree with you overall, and yes, they're in denial, but there are some things I've seen like the databook(and yes, it was made by the author) that contradicts the story telling. Take Fate/stay night for instance. It had something like a databook. There was something labeled as an "anti-world" attack but was said to have a maximum target cap of several hundred people or some bullcrap like that. Characters in it were given higher agility stats then those faster than them in the visual novel's story.


What sets the databook apart from that? Well, there's an error to be sure (Naruto missing yin release). However, this could be a mislabel, and the author actually states he has the perfect usage of both, so that trumps it.

Agreed. Its stated in DB that Naruto has yin yang release. Kishi just forgot to put it in his bio.
 

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Giving life is a yang catogory, he place the yang seal on kakashi's eyes.

So it has to be strictly yang...

But naruto being able to create Truthseeking orbs is entirely a yin yang category alone.
but that stiil doesn't make sense
yang doesn't create
it instills life
and naruto clearly created a new eye for kakashi
 

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According to the databook Minato has yin release and also yang release.

The databook also says Sasuke has yin-yang release.

Just because the databook gives a character an element that doesn't mean that they know how to use it. Naruto's natural affinity is wind; yet he didn't know how to use it until later in part 2.

You must train to use an element. He probably has the potential to learn it; but that doesn't suggest he can use it now.

OT: I don't take the databooks seriously. Its mostly hype. According to the databook Raikiri can cut through anything which implies it cuts through omyoton and yata. Lol
 

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Databook is a walking contradiction. Naruto's Nature Transformation is listed not have a Yin power, but he could use Yin-Yang; it's contradiction. And not only that, Gudduama do not carry essence of In'Youton, but it's the Onmyoudon is what does:

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Nothing is confirmed. Naruto doesn't have Yin-Yang and cannot erase Ninjutsu.​

Ninjutsu negation is a skill that requires specific concentration. Obito's main body is still susceptible to ninjutsu but the TSB can erase them, i.e. "negate" them.
 

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I wonder why mindless juubito wasn't able to erase hiruzen. maybe it got neutralized. :rolleyes:
Anyways thanks for the info!
 

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Ninjutsu negation is a skill that requires specific concentration. Obito's main body is still susceptible to ninjutsu but the TSB can erase them, i.e. "negate" them.

No...

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I wonder why mindless juubito wasn't able to erase hiruzen. maybe it got neutralized. :rolleyes:
Anyways thanks for the info!

I have already explained that.
He didn't had senjutsu of six paths that time. Read it again.....when the user blossoms senjutsu of six paths, and has a circle of orbs floating behind his back, then only he becomes capable of using yin-yang or omyoudon. U_U
 

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According to the databook Minato has yin release and also yang release.

The databook also says Sasuke has yin-yang release.

Just because the databook gives a character an element that doesn't mean that they know how to use it. Naruto's natural affinity is wind; yet he didn't know how to use it until later in part 2.

You must train to use an element. He probably has the potential to learn it; but that doesn't suggest he can use it now.

OT: I don't take the databooks seriously. Its mostly hype. According to the databook Raikiri can cut through anything which implies it cuts through omyoton and yata. Lol

Sasuke doesn't have yang in the DB but he has everything else.
 

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More info on CT:

"Chibaku Tensei / Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" has a single entry, and lists "Nagato / Naruto and Sasuke, Hagoromo and Hamura" as its users. It's a kekkei genkai sealing jutsu.

Six Paths Chibaku Tensei is invoked when two users simultaneously touch their target with the "Yin" and "Yang" seals. It rips a giant chunk of earth up and turns it into a heavenly body, becoming the Prison of Six Paths (六道の獄 Rokudō no Goku) that can capture all things (万物捕, "banbutsuto"). It's a sealing jutsu that can be used by individuals who awaken Six Paths Senjutsu. "Chibaku Tensei" is the version that can be used by a single individual, while "Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" is a more powerful version that requires two individuals simultaneously combining the power of Yin and Yang. It turns the sealing target into a gravity core in the sky, which attracts chunks of earth that bury them alive. This forms a heavenly body in the sky that can act as a prison for even a tailed beast. The section in the bottom left describes how the moon was the result of Six Paths Chibaku Tensei, and that so much chakra was contained within that it turned into a gigantic sattelite. It also describes it as a giant sealing stone (封印石 "Fuinseki"), which implies that Kishimoto took some inspiration from those giant "sealing stones" you sometimes see -- the big boulders with the kanji inscribed on them, usually with the ceremonial ropes adoring them.
 

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I have already explained that.
He didn't had senjutsu of six paths that time. Read it again.....when the user blossoms senjutsu of six paths, and has a circle of orbs floating behind his back, then only he becomes capable of using yin-yang or omyoudon. U_U
Nah, Hiruzen neutralized that shit. :rolleyes:
 

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Incorrect. What MR is saying is correct. Naruto has Gudo Dama, not Omnyoudon. Gudo Dama doesn't negate ninjutsu, Naruto doesn't have that ability, otherwise Sasuke's arrow would've turned to nothingness rather than detonated upon contact. Naruto doesn't have Yin Yang release similarly to how Sasuke doesn't. It's clear as day that Kishi made Sasuke=Yin and Naruto=Yang. Otherwise we'd have two Hagromo's here.
 

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Incorrect. What MR is saying is correct. Naruto has Gudo Dama, not Omnyoudon. Gudo Dama doesn't negate ninjutsu, Naruto doesn't have that ability, otherwise Sasuke's arrow would've turned to nothingness rather than detonated upon contact. Naruto doesn't have Yin Yang release similarly to how Sasuke doesn't. It's clear as day that Kishi made Sasuke=Yin and Naruto=Yang. Otherwise we'd have two Hagromo's here.

Except the DB says he has perfect use of the yin yang release :coffee:
 

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Incorrect. What MR is saying is correct. Naruto has Gudo Dama, not Omnyoudon. Gudo Dama doesn't negate ninjutsu, Naruto doesn't have that ability, otherwise Sasuke's arrow would've turned to nothingness rather than detonated upon contact. Naruto doesn't have Yin Yang release similarly to how Sasuke doesn't. It's clear as day that Kishi made Sasuke=Yin and Naruto=Yang. Otherwise we'd have two Hagromo's here.

Sasuke's has hagoromo's chakra/ or rikudou senjutsu chakra too(not mode)......Confirmed in the databook. U_U
That is why he was able to cut Madara in half. U are just getting confused. Gudoudama!= Omyoudon. But Senjutsu of six paths mode= gudoudama+ Omyoudon(or Yin-yang kanji combined.....thats how it is written) + CoAt. Its a rikudou senjutsu ability just like rinnegan abilities. The japanese translators can make u understand this better. Omyoudon's kanji is formed by combining yin and yang kanji and the same kanji was used in Naruto's case too.
I don't get why you all are getting butthurt about it, when it is kinda useless against senjutsu users and rikudou chakra users. :rolleyes:
 
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Sasuke's has hagoromo's chakra/ or rikudou senjutsu chakra too(not mode)......Confirmed in the databook. U_U
That is why he was able to cut Madara in half. U are just getting confused. Gudoudama!= Omyoudon. But Senjutsu of six paths mode= gudoudama+ Omyoudon(or Yin-yang kanji combined.....thats how it is written) + CoAt. Its a rikudou senjustsu sbility just like rinnegan abilities. The japanese translators can make u understand this better. Omyoudon's kanji is formed by combining yin and yang kanji and the same kanji was used in Naruto's case too.
I don't get why you all are getting butthurt about it, when it is kinda useless against senjutsu users and rikudou chakra users. :rolleyes:

Yes, it's known that Sasuke has Senjutsu since black Chidori. Senjutsu=/=Yin-Yang.
COAT ins't usable by anyone bar Hagromo imo. Again, DB said Naruto only has Yang. The rest is irrelevant, since the manga supports him only having Yang. You can't choose an unclear part of the DB and deny the clear part of the DB and manga. It doesn't work like that buddy.
Not even getting butthurt, just don't see why fallacious notions should be given room to be perpetuated.
 

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Yes, it's known that Sasuke has Senjutsu since black Chidori. Senjutsu=/=Yin-Yang.
COAT ins't usable by anyone bar Hagromo imo. Again, DB said Naruto only has Yang. The rest is irrelevant, since the manga supports him only having Yang. You can't choose an unclear part of the DB and deny the clear part of the DB and manga. It doesn't work like that buddy.
Not even getting butthurt, just don't see why fallacious notions should be given room to be perpetuated.

You can always trust in the manga

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