Naruto has shown, far and away, the best chakra control in this manga.

[Booker]

I'll find the scans later, assuming I still have the energy to continue this. As for being neutral, I said as much as you can. If one doesn't have a liking to a particular character, then they're going to be less bias than a fanboy/fangirl.

But TWD, did I just understand you right? Did you just say that medical nins adapt their chaka type to others...? That Sakura can do the same as Naruto? That if I find a scan proving she's channeling her chakra through Katsuyu, it will prove she's able to do so on a massive scale (even though you just stated that she do so, but on a much smaller scale)?

It may take a while to get those scans.

Unless I'm mistaken, medical nins have to convert their chakra to give it to others. Isn't that the only way it works?

Maybe I'm mistaken.

EDIT: Yeah I was.

Medical nins use the chakra transfer technique, which only gives vague chakra to another person.

Naruto did the same technique, however his differed because it was more precise and he was able to also control and mould his chakra to match their chakra type as well.

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Well, I'm saddened that no one responded to my previous post, I thought it had some very good information in it.

Anyways here is an example of Naruto's expert chakra control abilities. And some responses to some things other people have said.

Naruto literally controls the kyuubi chakra and makes arms with it. He is able to control this chakra so precisely he is able to stack a pyramid's tip on the top of another pyramid's tip and then continue stacking, and that is also underneath several other blocks. He controlled his chakra very well to do this, yes other people who don't have bijuu level chakra can't do this, but this still shows great precision on Naruto's part (not to mention he learned to do this in an extremely short time). You can find more examples of Naruto controlling chakra throughout the war, and he also gains the ability to combine black and white chakra during the war... He learnt an advanced technique on the fly when he had to. And The TBB definitely requires advanced chakra control, and needs to be extremely precise.

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why are people so adamant on believing "precise" chakra control is the only chakra control there is, or that it stands above all other forms of chakra control? There is physical chakra control and spatial chakra control as well. There is controlling chakra that has been made with natural energy. There is the ability to pass one's chakra from one's self to another person, which I showed in my last post (Tsunade and Naruto could do, but Sakura couldn't), which is controlling your chakra and adapting it to another persons. Controlling chakra Natures is also chakra control. I don't even know if that is all the versions of chakra control there are but there definitely isn't one type.

The yin seal is definitely hard to do and of course requires precise chakra control. But I'm sure that over time it becomes something you do unconciously, just like how walking on water or walking on trees becomes an unconcious thing to do. Kakashi stands on the water, while in a genjutsu and even when he collapses he takes a knee on the water. I'm sure I could provide much more examples for such things happening unconciously. I say that it happens unconciously because Tsunade, while in a coma, was able to compose her yin seal. So it is clearly something you can do while you are sleeping which means someone can provide chakra to the seal unconsciously. Even something that requires precise chakra control can be done unconsciously, must not be too hard to do if you can do it unconsciously yeah? Perhaps shizune just lacked the talent Sakura had, but that doesn't mean that other people other than Sakura and Tsunade can't learn it. Naruto is the son of the fourth hokage, and has been shown to learn techniques incredibly fast. Even ones that need great and precise chakra control. As I showed in my last post Naruto concentrated so much chakra in one spot in his hand (about the size of the yin seal too) that he actually burned his hand. I bet he could learn it if Tsunade tried teaching him. In response to this one guy saying Tsunade and Sakura havn't bothered trying to learn those techniques, well guess what. Naruto has not tried to learn the yin seal either,

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There are how many rasengan users ever? 5? Minato, Jaraiya, Kakashi, Naruto, and Konohamaru. Tsunade seemingly thought it to be impossible for anyone besides Jaraiya and Minato to know. Kakashi copied it with his sharingan and Konohamaru was taught by Naruto. Konohamaru was raised to become a hokage, he was raised to be powerful. He has had his own personal trainer since the very beginning of the series. Konohamaru is also the grandson of the third hokage, so we know that great blood runs through his veins, and his potential is high. He very well could have really great chakra control, but we haven't really seen enough of him to determine his chakra control. All we know is that he can use the rasengan, so at the very least that should show he has above average chakra control. I won't compare his chakra control to Sakura's or Naruto's though, because we really don't know that much about Konohamaru, we know much more about Sakura and Naruto and their various feats. Konohamaru should not be taken lightly for various reasons, one reason being as he does know an ultra high grade A rank technique which is the pinnacle of spatial chakra composition (rasengan).

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It is stated that the chakra cloaks given to the army are Naruto's chakra. Converted to Naruto's chakra from the Kyuubi's chakra, but still Naruto's chakra. It would be simple to assume that with Naruto's above average chakra level, even without Kurama, he would still be able to give away chakra.

Still I think Naruto's chakra control is put to complete shame by Juubito's though.

I think thats all I have for now, hope everything made sense.

I agree with everything you said here.


To some others: The Byakygou (however you spell it) is what fuels Katsuyu, that's just basic summoning stuff. The users chakra always goes into their summon when they, well, summon them.

Remote healing is based off the user as well, again, the summon gathers strength from their summoner.

No, I don't feel like getting scans to prove this, because regardless of all that, I still know Naruto's far superior in chakra use.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Well, I'm saddened that no one responded to my previous post, I thought it had some very good information in it.

Anyways here is an example of Naruto's expert chakra control abilities. And some responses to some things other people have said.

Naruto literally controls the kyuubi chakra and makes arms with it. He is able to control this chakra so precisely he is able to stack a pyramid's tip on the top of another pyramid's tip and then continue stacking, and that is also underneath several other blocks. He controlled his chakra very well to do this, yes other people who don't have bijuu level chakra can't do this, but this still shows great precision on Naruto's part (not to mention he learned to do this in an extremely short time). You can find more examples of Naruto controlling chakra throughout the war, and he also gains the ability to combine black and white chakra during the war... He learnt an advanced technique on the fly when he had to. And The TBB definitely requires advanced chakra control, and needs to be extremely precise.

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why are people so adamant on believing "precise" chakra control is the only chakra control there is, or that it stands above all other forms of chakra control? There is physical chakra control and spatial chakra control as well. There is controlling chakra that has been made with natural energy. There is the ability to pass one's chakra from one's self to another person, which I showed in my last post (Tsunade and Naruto could do, but Sakura couldn't), which is controlling your chakra and adapting it to another persons. Controlling chakra Natures is also chakra control. I don't even know if that is all the versions of chakra control there are but there definitely isn't one type.

The yin seal is definitely hard to do and of course requires precise chakra control. But I'm sure that over time it becomes something you do unconciously, just like how walking on water or walking on trees becomes an unconcious thing to do. Kakashi stands on the water, while in a genjutsu and even when he collapses he takes a knee on the water. I'm sure I could provide much more examples for such things happening unconciously. I say that it happens unconciously because Tsunade, while in a coma, was able to compose her yin seal. So it is clearly something you can do while you are sleeping which means someone can provide chakra to the seal unconsciously. Even something that requires precise chakra control can be done unconsciously, must not be too hard to do if you can do it unconsciously yeah? Perhaps shizune just lacked the talent Sakura had, but that doesn't mean that other people other than Sakura and Tsunade can't learn it. Naruto is the son of the fourth hokage, and has been shown to learn techniques incredibly fast. Even ones that need great and precise chakra control. As I showed in my last post Naruto concentrated so much chakra in one spot in his hand (about the size of the yin seal too) that he actually burned his hand. I bet he could learn it if Tsunade tried teaching him. In response to this one guy saying Tsunade and Sakura havn't bothered trying to learn those techniques, well guess what. Naruto has not tried to learn the yin seal either,

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There are how many rasengan users ever? 5? Minato, Jaraiya, Kakashi, Naruto, and Konohamaru. Tsunade seemingly thought it to be impossible for anyone besides Jaraiya and Minato to know. Kakashi copied it with his sharingan and Konohamaru was taught by Naruto. Konohamaru was raised to become a hokage, he was raised to be powerful. He has had his own personal trainer since the very beginning of the series. Konohamaru is also the grandson of the third hokage, so we know that great blood runs through his veins, and his potential is high. He very well could have really great chakra control, but we haven't really seen enough of him to determine his chakra control. All we know is that he can use the rasengan, so at the very least that should show he has above average chakra control. I won't compare his chakra control to Sakura's or Naruto's though, because we really don't know that much about Konohamaru, we know much more about Sakura and Naruto and their various feats. Konohamaru should not be taken lightly for various reasons, one reason being as he does know an ultra high grade A rank technique which is the pinnacle of spatial chakra composition (rasengan).

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It is stated that the chakra cloaks given to the army are Naruto's chakra. Converted to Naruto's chakra from the Kyuubi's chakra, but still Naruto's chakra. It would be simple to assume that with Naruto's above average chakra level, even without Kurama, he would still be able to give away chakra.

Still I think Naruto's chakra control is put to complete shame by Juubito's though.

I think thats all I have for now, hope everything made sense.

Agree, great post. Also transforming chakra is physical recomposition chakra control, Kakashi describes how he use it to make his chakra resemble electricity while Naruto use it to change his chakra to suit each person. He does this so fast and with a large chakra amount that his chakra control has to be extremely high. Building a set amount of chakra then releasing a set of chakra is both chakra control techniques so Naruto was using 3 chakra control techniques at once all in the time it takes to slap hands.

@Bold, Come on man, if you can't understand the significance of the Konohamaru mention, then this discussion isn't worth it. You called it advanced chakra controlling, it was to blow that agument out the water. Even if it's smaller, you're claiming he's capable of superior chakra controlling. So yes, I bought him up for a reason. Sorry, you can't wiggle through this one. You're either gonna have to tell me that Konohamaru is more skilled than Tsunade and Sakura at chakra control, or drop the rasengan argument. You also neglected my point about Jiraiya. He was able to do it with one hand. You cannot possibly believe Kishi wants the readers to believe Jiraiya is superior at chakra controlling than Tsunade and Sakura. The rasengan was never particularly praised for its chakra control. You're simply judging it off it's appearance. Even though Naruto learned the odama rasengan, he STILL had trouble manipulating his chakra for the kai technique. One would think if the rasengan was really that much of a feat of chakra control, then Naruto would have no problem with genjutsu kai, something Sakura could do since part 1. In fact, Jiraiya had to teach Naruto genjutsu kai after learning the rasengan. Utilizing genjutsu kai; one needs to have excellent control of their chakra, learning how to stop it, then applying a greater amount. Again, something Naruto couldn't do after the learning the rasengan. He couldn't even do it proficiently after learning the odama rasengan. At this point, it's just refusing to accept the obvious; rasengan isn't remotely a great chakra control feat. I reiterate, Sakura could do it since part 1. This rasengan argument really needs to sleep, even with its variants (TBB, RS), we don't know if it comes anywhere close to the chakra control Tsunade and Sakura accomplished. The rasengan argument is not persuasive to those who actually think about it. Hell Rock Lee can open his chakra gates, are you going to constitute that to greater control than Sakura as well? You're basing it off appearance. To sum it up, we don't know if rasengan is a better feat of chakra controlling. Due to what I listed above, I'm inclined to believe it's far below what Sakura and Tsunade can do.

@Underlined, I'll get that to later.

@Red, Kakashi and Shizune praised Sakura for her chakra control. They made a big deal about it. No point here.

@Blue, What? First of all, the fact that Shizune praised Sakura for her precise chakra control, despite knowing of Sakura's strength (which Kakashi commented on the skill of control), says a lot. It's even more advanced than what Kakashi thought was impressive. Shizune is already aware of the chakra control Kakashi commented on, yet praised Sakura for the Yin Seal. Yes, that says a lot...

Yes he can give it out in large quantities, because he has large amount of chakra. We have no idea what's going on when Naruto matches chakra with his recipients. The rasengan destroys, the chakra scalpel cuts. Yet, Sakura can do the Mystical Palm, which actually heals. She's just not forming chakra and applying it to wounds, hoping that it heals. There's skill involved, something is going on there. I know that Naruto can match his chakra with others, that's all I know; there's some level of skill in doing it. More skilled than what Tsunade and Sakura could do? We can't say that.

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. lol she doesn't even have a visual of what she's looking at . She's somehow using the chakra to locate the poison, then she somehow removes the poison without effecting anything else. She somehow heals flesh with the mystical palm. Naruto somehow matches his chakra with others. I'm not convinced Naruto is better at chakra control...give Sakura the 9tails and a large chakra pool, and who knows what she can do with it? Give it to Tsunade, and who knows what she can do with it?

Pinnacle is used to convey her level of chakra control, it doesn't get any higher than this. She can learn more difficult techniques, yes, but she's at the pinnacle of chakra control. It doesn't mean she's perfect in it, just that she's reached that top level.

Kishi's portrayal is clear. Sakura and Tsunade are the best at chakra controlling.

You're use of Konohamaru shouldn't be taken that likely, he is the grandson of Hiruzen who had a person elite jounin trainer since he was introduced. Sakura can have great chakra control as a genin but Konohamaru can't? I'm not comparing him to them but you're using him as if he wouldn't have great chakra control which we do not know of since he was rarely shown and his rasengan is much smaller the Naruto's. You can't aspect Tsunade and Sakura to be skilled in all aspects of chakra control, their are different types of chakra control that can be used differently, for Tsunade to said only Minato and Jiraiya could use it and that it's impossible for Naruto to learn it is saying something.

The main type of chakra control that they show is precision more than anything, well also the walking on tree and water chakra control as well. Kakashi did say the rasengan was an extremely advanced chakra control. Saying Naruto needs to know two types of chakra control for his new jutsu then saying the rasengan is an extremely advanced spatial composition is him saying it's extremely advanced chakra control. He also explains how learning physical recomposition is also a difficult thing to do and wanted to make use of Naruto's clones to speed of the learning process.

Kakashi mostly praised her for the precision of her chakra control, how great it was, Shizune did the same by calling it extremely precise chakra control. That's one type of chakra control being praised, Naruto has shown advanced chakra control of different types and even combined them to form FRS which Tsunade suggested takes the wind chakra and shape manipulates it into tiny blades that attack each cell

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. It's Naruto's chakra control that made such a jutsu which even Tsunade can't heal and deemed a forbidden jutsu

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To change his chakra to match others is physical recomposition chakra control, Kakashi describes how he can use it to make his chakra resemble electricity

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. Naruto transforms his chakra to meet each person type, it's the same aspect but more advanced to do it to a person's chakra type and not just an element. Having large chakra doesn't meet he just handed out any amount, he has to balance the amount he gives out so he doesn't give out too much or too little chakra so everyone in the alliance gets the same amount plus leave himself with enough to fight with.

Kurama said Naruto was the only one to do it because he's been a jinchuuriki for many years and have Kushina's blood

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. So you can't say Tsunade and Sakura could do the same thing unless he was referring to Uzumaki bloodline which I doubt do to Kushina having special chakra was mentioned before Naruto entered the war so referring to the Uzumaki didn't seem to fit all that well since having large chakra reserve and lifeforce doesn't seem to give someone the power to share of chakra.

 

[Disquiet]

Unless I'm mistaken, medical nins have to convert their chakra to give it to others. Isn't that the only way it works?

Maybe I'm mistaken.

EDIT: Yeah I was.

Medical nins use the chakra transfer technique, which only gives vague chakra to another person.

Naruto did the same technique, however his differed because it was more precise and he was able to also control and mould his chakra to match their chakra type as well.

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Well in that same source you provided, it listed the remote healing technqiue as a variation.

I didn't want to use Wiki, but it says that remote healing is done by the process I mentioned.

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I'm also not convinced that Naruto is converting his chakra type (as you stated, it's not exactly what Minato does, he also doesn't have Kurama). In that scan, Kurama says a link to my chakra. The image shows that link. What is the link for? To connect the shinobis with Kurama's chakra. That's what that image is showing. Remember, everyone has Kurama's cloak. Look to the far right of that image, it says "Kyuubi chakra". Then to the left is "Naruto". You can see the Kyuubi's chakra pouring through Naruto. Then, you see all the white figures with Naruto's name in them, you can see the edges, they're a perfect match of the shinobi they're trying to fit. However, it all came from Kurama.

Naruto is exploiting Kurama's ability. In the wiki you linked, it even says it's Kurama's chakra, not Naruto's.

 

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Agree, great post. Also transforming chakra is physical recomposition chakra control, Kakashi describes how he use it to make his chakra resemble electricity while Naruto use it to change his chakra to suit each person. He does this so fast and with a large chakra amount that his chakra control has to be extremely high. Building a set amount of chakra then releasing a set of chakra is both chakra control techniques so Naruto was using 3 chakra control techniques at once all in the time it takes to slap hands.



You're use of Konohamaru shouldn't be taken that likely, he is the grandson of Hiruzen who had a person elite jounin trainer since he was introduced. Sakura can have great chakra control as a genin but Konohamaru can't? I'm not comparing him to them but you're using him as if he wouldn't have great chakra control which we do not know of since he was rarely shown and his rasengan is much smaller the Naruto's. You can't aspect Tsunade and Sakura to be skilled in all aspects of chakra control, their are different types of chakra control that can be used differently, for Tsunade to said only Minato and Jiraiya could use it and that it's impossible for Naruto to learn it is saying something.

The main type of chakra control that they show is precision more than anything, well also the walking on tree and water chakra control as well. Kakashi did say the rasengan was an extremely advanced chakra control. Saying Naruto needs to know two types of chakra control for his new jutsu then saying the rasengan is an extremely advanced spatial composition is him saying it's extremely advanced chakra control. He also explains how learning physical recomposition is also a difficult thing to do and wanted to make use of Naruto's clones to speed of the learning process.

Kakashi mostly praised her for the precision of her chakra control, how great it was, Shizune did the same by calling it extremely precise chakra control. That's one type of chakra control being praised, Naruto has shown advanced chakra control of different types and even combined them to form FRS which Tsunade suggested takes the wind chakra and shape manipulates it into tiny blades that attack each cell

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. It's Naruto's chakra control that made such a jutsu which even Tsunade can't heal and deemed a forbidden jutsu

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To change his chakra to match others is physical recomposition chakra control, Kakashi describes how he can use it to make his chakra resemble electricity

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. Naruto transforms his chakra to meet each person type, it's the same aspect but more advanced to do it to a person's chakra type and not just an element. Having large chakra doesn't meet he just handed out any amount, he has to balance the amount he gives out so he doesn't give out too much or too little chakra so everyone in the alliance gets the same amount plus leave himself with enough to fight with.

Kurama said Naruto was the only one to do it because he's been a jinchuuriki for many years and have Kushina's blood

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. So you can't say Tsunade and Sakura could do the same thing unless he was referring to Uzumaki bloodline which I doubt do to Kushina having special chakra was mentioned before Naruto entered the war so referring to the Uzumaki didn't seem to fit all that well since having large chakra reserve and lifeforce doesn't seem to give someone the power to share of chakra.

Everything has already been covered, I don't think there's much to say. We'll just see what Kishi has to say as I'm sure he's going to cover it in his next databook or in some compliment via a character.

I won't be responding to any of your replies anymore.^^

 

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Well in that same source you provided, it listed the remote healing technqiue as a variation.

I didn't want to use Wiki, but it says that remote healing is done by the process I mentioned.

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I'm also not convinced that Naruto is converting his chakra type (as you stated, it's not exactly what Minato does, he also doesn't have Kurama). In that scan, Kurama says a link to my chakra. The image shows that link. What is the link for? To connect the shinobis with Kurama's chakra. That's what that image is showing. Remember, everyone has Kurama's cloak. Look to the far right of that image, it says "Kyuubi chakra". Then to the left is "Naruto". You can see the Kyuubi's chakra pooring through Naruto. Then, you see all the white figured with Naruto's name in them, you can see the edges, they're a perfect match of the shinobi they're trying to fit. However, it all came from Kurama.

Naruto is exploiting Kurama's ability. In the wiki you linked, it even says it's Kurama's chakra, not Naruto's.

Are you dense?

Naruto is the one doing the changing of the chakra's entire nature. The manga made that readily apparent, and it is far above anything Sakura has shown.

That site proves nothing, she isn't molding chakra as precisely as Naruto is to even match their types.

I remember why I don't debate anymore, it's like talking to a brick wall. I'll leave it to the other members who can stomach refuting the same points over and over and over again.

Naruto's chakra control feats are better than Sakura's. End of story.

 

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Are you dense?

Naruto is the one doing the changing of the chakra's entire nature. The manga made that readily apparent, and it is far above anything Sakura has shown.

That site proves nothing, she isn't molding chakra as precisely as Naruto is to even match their types.

I remember why I don't debate anymore, it's like talking to a brick wall. I'll leave it to the other members who can stomach refuting the same points over and over and over again.

Naruto's chakra control feats are better than Sakura's. End of story.

Um no, he's changing it, but it's not his chakra he's changing. Read again our replies, so that you may remember what we're debating.


@Underlined...Seriously, I'm done here after this reply. Why even link Naruto Wiki in the first place if the site proves NOTHING?

lol wow, I actually thought much different of you from some of your replies around the base. But, I should be use to this by now. And yes I know you don't give a damn.

 

[Booker]

Um no, he's changing it, but it's not his chakra he's changing. Read again our replies, so that you may remember what we're debating.

Lel does it matter? If anything, it's even more impressive than he can mold and transfer chakra that isn't his own! (By the by I'm not saying it isn't his, Kurama clearly transferred it to Naruto.)

@Underlined...Seriously, I'm done here after this reply. Why even link Naruto Wiki in the first place if the site proves NOTHING?

I was talking about that specific page you linked.

Still not hearing an argument here, just you complaining.

lol wow, I actually thought much different of you from some of your replies around the base. But, I should be use to this by now. And yes I know you don't give a damn.

I don't give a damn.

 

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Lel does it matter? If anything, it's even more impressive than he can mold and transfer chakra that isn't his own! (By the by I'm not saying it isn't his, Kurama clearly transferred it to Naruto.)



I was talking about that specific page you linked.

Still not hearing an argument here, just you complaining.



I don't give a damn.

@Bold, Since Sakura may be able to do what he did if she had chakra that she can actually match chakra types with others, yes it matters. It's not his. And yes it's a damn good feat, but if you're just going to ignore the quote I linked you in my first response; then I don't think there's going to be any reasoning whatsoever. There's no proof that what Naruto did is much more difficult than Sakura's feats (as mentioned in my first reply).


@Underlined You're not keeping up, TWD. This is what you said:

Give me scans stating that she's delivering her chakra through Katsuyu.

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@Red, finally an agreement on something. xD Progress.

 

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@Bold, Since Sakura may be able to do what he did if she had chakra that she can actually match chakra types with others, yes it matters. It's not his. And yes it's a damn good feat, but if you're just going to ignore the quote I linked you in my first response; then I don't think there's going to be any reasoning whatsoever. There's no proof that what Naruto did is much more difficult than Sakura's feats (as mentioned in my first reply).

But she can't, because she hasn't, and has nothing to suggest she could do it on the scale Naruto did.

Again, Sakura was simply giving out vague chakra while concentrating. Naruto gave out more that was even more specific without effort.

@Underlined You're not keeping up, TWD. This is what you said:



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Re-read my posts, already admitted I was wrong.

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

I like how people bring in Naruto's most recent chakra control feat and say that is why he has better control than sakura.
Truthfully, Naruto's control over his chakra was comparable to Sakura when he got Sage Mode. - In order to use sage mode he has to perfectly balance his chakra, with a exterior chakra source. The yin seal, is basically the first part of naruto's rasengan training ( focusing chakra into his hand) -naruto made his hand burn ) extended over years of time.
Ever since I saw the rasengan planet ( multiple rasengans floating around each other) and the mini rasenshuriken it became clear that Naruto was on another level. If the tree walking, and water walking are examples of chakra control, it becomes obvious that the rasengan (combines both) is the combination of two forms of chakra control. Now, kakashi stated he changes his chakra (controls his chakra) to form electricity, obviously naruto does the same with rasenshurken, the difference is at that point he also does the tree walking form of control and water walking at the same time-. So thats three types of chakra control all mixed together. And now, Naruto can do two rasenshurkens at the same time. Truthfully, if forming 9 odama rasengans with a single handseal doesnot imply godlike chakra control I don't know what to say, because thats a small scale of what Juubito did ( forming the floating omnyouton orbs). Not only that, but Naruto did the "impossible" and made a bijudama in human form ( albeit a super small one because they are so heavy) -something never done before.
Now, you can say all of these feats are not a result of chakra control but rather a large chakra pool. The problem is that naruto always had a large pool, if its only related to having a large chakra capacity then naruto would have not taken two years to learn the odama rasengan- we know that naruto is a extremly fast learner ( kage bunshin in a few hours,rasengan in a week) even when it comes to difficult techniques.
Sakura may be better than naruto at precise chakra control which is a evolved form of tree walking , water walking. but naruto has shown better feats with spatial recomp (which is tree walking and water walking at same time, elemental control, (he later combined tree walking, water walking, and elemental control at the same time)-never or rarely been done(minato couldnot do it)
-You can argue that all of naruto's techniques do not require good chakra control, even though other people with large reserves couldnot do them (sage mode jiriays has large reservs, ) but the truth is, what naruto makes his chakra DO is more impressive than what Sakura can do with her chakra.
Even if naruto had less chakra, what he makes his chakra do (imagine what he does on smaller scale)seems more impressive ( to me) than what sakura makes her chakra do.
Lastly, even if naruto himself doesnot have as good chakra control, he can make clones that assist him in manipulating his chakra. Do you really believe sakura is so special that if she had a biju she could accomplish what Naruto did.
Do you really believe sakura could make a bijudama in human form ( as far as we know its NEVER been done before), the bijudama is the ultimate technique of the biju ( seemingly even the juubi-a chakra god) - and Naruto is now able to do the same technique, you truly believe that Sakura's yin seal is more impressive than being able to do a technique like that??? We may not no what white and black chakra is exactly (probably pure ying/yang chakra) but right after feeling it for the first time, he was able to gather the chakra in perfect ratio's- you have to concede that using chakra in perfect ratios is great chakra control( if he gathers two much of a certain chakra type the technique fails) so naruto is atleast at the level of chakra control to perfectly balance large levels of different chakra types, quickly.
I would hate to see how you would explain naruto surpassing the biju and combining the bijudama with wind chakra--

 

[Disquiet]

But she can't, because she hasn't, and has nothing to suggest she could do it on the scale Naruto did.

Again, Sakura was simply giving out vague chakra while concentrating. Naruto gave out more that was even more specific without effort.




Re-read my posts, already admitted I was wrong.

You're missing the point, but I don't think either side is going to budge, so I'll truly end it with this post. I spent too much effort on this subject, when it's probably going to be cleared up with one statement in later chapters.


You admitted you were mistaken about meds being able to change chakra types, yes. However, remote healing was an argument that stood on its own. Considering Sakura had turn her chakra into medical chakra, Naruto's ease in doing it may very well be because it's not as difficult.

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^She turns it into medical chakra, then transfer it so that it could heal them. Naruto changes and matches the chakra type, then transfer it. We don't know the difficulty level between naruto's feats and Sakura's feats. Naruto's may "sound" more difficult, but that's far from proof, especially if we don't have an understanding of how it works.

Anyways, all this explaining has exhausted me, so bye. Zzz


I edited my my post, nothing too significant though. Just expounding on Naruto's and Sakura's feats. Hope it provokes some thought.

 

[Booker]

You're missing the point, but I don't think either side is going to budge, so I'll truly end it with this post. I spent too much effort on this subject, when it's probably going to be cleared up with one statement in later chapters.


You admitted you were mistaken about meds being able to change chakra types, yes. However, remote healing was an argument that stood on its own. Considering Sakura had turn her chakra into medical chakra, Naruto's ease in doing it may very well be because it's not as difficult.

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^She turns into medical chakra, then transfer it so that it could heal them. We don't know the difficulty level between naruto's feats and Sakura's feats.

Anyways, all this explaining has exhausted me, so bye. Zzz

Lmao

Converting a tailed beasts chakra to fit into each of thousands of individual's specific chakra signatures in an instant is easier than making your own chakra into medical chakra?

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Yes, please leave before you spout more sig-worthy nonsense such as this.

 

[SharinganisOP]

^She turns it into medical chakra, then transfer it so that it could heal them. Naruto changes and matches the chakra type, then transfer it. We don't know the difficulty level between naruto's feats and Sakura's feats. Naruto's may "sound" more difficult, but that's far from proof, especially if we don't have an understanding of how it works.

My guess is that It is pretty damn difficult to do. Tsunade and Sakura both have the yin seal, yet Tsunade was able to do a chakra transfer right here while Sakura was unable to do so (even with the chakra cloak) This is seen on chapter 649:

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And yes it is the same technique, seen being used on Onoki:

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Even if she never was taught to transfer chakra, that just shows her inability to learn techniques as quick in comparison to Naruto. Naruto learned to transfer chakra while on the battlefield extremely quickly and at astonishing levels, as a Medical ninja, you would figure being able to transfer chakra would be a handy technique to know. And since she does have the yin seal right now she has plenty of chakra to transfer to shikamaru. Perhaps Sakura wasn't good enough with controlling her chakra yet to change it to another person's type and was still learning to do so, which like I said above shows her lack of ability to grasp techniques as quick as Naruto (who is shown to transfer extremely large amounts through a simple touch). This means that Transferring chakra in such a way could be harder than performing the yin seal if Sakura and Tsunade can both perform the yin seal, yet only Tsunade can transfer chakra.

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The kyuubi Naruto possess is made of yang chakra only. Yin and yang are said to be what medical ninjutsu uses. Therefore the kyuubis chakra naturally acts as medical ninjutsu that Naruto doesn't have to convert. Though I don't think converting into medical ninjutsu would be hard. I would figure it would be like using a normal move for any element that you have an affinity for. Even if with all the "Talent" that Sakura shows, she should be able to convert normal chakra into medical ninjutsu, no problem.

 

[Disquiet]

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My guess is that It is pretty damn difficult to do. Tsunade and Sakura both have the yin seal, yet Tsunade was able to do a chakra transfer right here while Sakura was unable to do so (even with the chakra cloak) This is seen on chapter 649:

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And yes it is the same technique, seen being used on Onoki:

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Even if she never was taught to transfer chakra, that just shows her inability to learn techniques as quick in comparison to Naruto. Naruto learned to transfer chakra while on the battlefield extremely quickly and at astonishing levels, as a Medical ninja, you would figure being able to transfer chakra would be a handy technique to know. And since she does have the yin seal right now she has plenty of chakra to transfer to shikamaru. Perhaps Sakura wasn't good enough with controlling her chakra yet to change it to another person's type and was still learning to do so, which like I said above shows her lack of ability to grasp techniques as quick as Naruto (who is shown to transfer extremely large amounts through a simple touch). This means that Transferring chakra in such a way could be harder than performing the yin seal if Sakura and Tsunade can both perform the yin seal, yet only Tsunade can transfer chakra.

Edit:

The kyuubi Naruto possess is made of yang chakra only. Yin and yang are said to be what medical ninjutsu uses. Therefore the kyuubis chakra naturally acts as medical ninjutsu that Naruto doesn't have to convert. Though I don't think converting into medical ninjutsu would be hard. I would figure it would be like using a normal move for any element that you have an affinity for. Even if with all the "Talent" that Sakura shows, she should be able to convert normal chakra into medical ninjutsu, no problem.

I admire the effort you put into this, but I'm just going to leave it to Kishi to explain it to everyone.

 

[Lightning Release]

Naruto can give (while matching) any shinobi's chakra. He is superior. GG.

 

[Kronnic]

People giving Naruto credit for Kurama chakra, and him willing wanting to share it with people.
Smh

Remember every ninja on the battlefield is different and Naruto had to make the perfect mixture to be compatible with each individual.. You simply can't just give Kurama chakra to anyone because it would kill them. If that is not control then what is it?

 

[AzR]

wow.. what a thread,haha... after read all the post, i'm sticking to sakura ... each one of them has their own feats of its own that can make them equals.. but sakura is the one that consistent throughout,mainly in chakra control..

feats? i dont want to elaborate bcuz most already spoke about it.. but there are some inconsistencies in naruto's part.. if the basics naruto can do, for example release genjutsu 'kai'.. or do the basic rasengan with only himself,no clones(do a rasenshuriken alone would be inpressive), then i'll bow down to naruto

there are some parts that needed to be explained more by kishi thou.. sigh

 

[Honord Sage]

Kurama has already explain Naruto has more control of Chakra than any other Human has ever had,and Kurama has lived to see chakra control in Humans from the time of the SO6P to today. Think about that.