naruto has never defeated sasuke so until then sasuke is the better fighter

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And what, Sasuke can? By the way, fight against Tobi is heading for a completely different direction now Kakashi's understood how to beat him.



I agree.
but even with all the power naruto guy and kakashi have they r still having trouble with tobi , who is just 1 person , and it's because the sharigan sees every thing , and sasuke defeated naruto in a fight before , Konohamaruand madara never fought before so that was u making and irrelevant comparison , by the way Konohamarudid take out one of pain 's path fyi
 

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Sasuke got totally pawned by Kakashi in Part 1 Bell test . . . Kakashi was never beaten by Sasuke . . . So Kakashi is better . . . Also Sasuke ran away from Gaara in part 1 and was saved by Gaara in Part 2, so Gaara too is better than Sasuke.

See how how stupid u can sound when u dont use your brain? I tried to follow your style of thinking and now i m ashamed of my stupidity.
don't feel stupid at all, you just used your brain for what's call a thought process, and it seems to be a logical one, you might not be use to logical thinking so that strange feeling you felt when you were thinking is your neuro transmitters working , you have basically increase your cognitive dimension, you basically have powered up, your grades should be better from now on and your conversations more intellectual , now on to the point you made early , based on logical thinking kakashi can still defeat sasuke , why , because he have done it before and it hasn't been proving otherwise , kakashi sharigan can teleport sasuke 's head away and kill him, gaara to is better than sasuke based on logical thinking , why you ask, because he have done it before and hasn't been proving otherwise, gaara sealed away a bunch of edo's and has and amazing defense that can easily be converted into an offence , in the famous words of dr. shaq "can you dig it ":p
 
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i wanna ask a question to naruto fans,why r u giving all the credits to just naruto in his current fights?at least give some credit to kyuubi as well since he is giving all the chakra,healing naruto and spamming all the jutsus,i just don't understand,like i hear some people saying naruto alone took 5 bijuus blah blah blah even though we know it's kyuubi,i just wanna say acknowledge kyuubi a bit as well.he might not be a human but it's a living thing so at least instead of saying naruto fights against someone,say naruto+kyuubi vs ? or kyuubi jinchuriki vs ?,just my thoughts.what do you think?
 

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i wanna ask a question to naruto fans,why r u giving all the credits to just naruto in his current fights?at least give some credit to kyuubi as well since he is giving all the chakra,healing naruto and spamming all the jutsus,i just don't understand,like i hear some people saying naruto alone took 5 bijuus blah blah blah even though we know it's kyuubi,i just wanna say acknowledge kyuubi a bit as well.he might not be a human but it's a living thing so at least instead of saying naruto fights against someone,say naruto+kyuubi vs ? or kyuubi jinchuriki vs ?,just my thoughts.what do you think?
i completely aggree
 

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I have nothing to get over . . . Sasuke won because of Plot no Jutsu, just like u accuse every fight is won due to plot no jutsu . . . Sasuke's only fight too is plot no jutsu. Deal with it. Plus Sasuke said Naruto wont be able to touch Sasuke, so Naruto won the bet, so it was his victory.


See how Fanboy blindness can cause trouble? Everyone knows Sasuke won . . . but if u put up ifs and stupid considerations it causes trouble.
Anorien16, Naruto lost the match and you know it. Scratching his headband has nothing to do with a victory. It just means he proved Sasuke wrong and that he did managed to win in just breaking Sasuke's statement. He didn't win in anyway, because he failed to bring him to the village and Sakura. Plot-no-jutsu is used all the time just like with Sasuke vs Itachi & Naruto vs Pain.
 

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you guys got to be freaking kidding me... in the valley of the end naruto went for the dang forehead protector. why on earth would he kill sauske lmao? he said he would break all his bones and drag his ass back he didnt say "even if i have to kill you" wtf is wrong with you people? kishi would of never said the scratch thing if it wasnt for a reason.. he brought it up in both fights with sauske and he ended the last one with him actually scratching his forehead protector. i mean damn people come on..
 

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i wanna ask a question to naruto fans,why r u giving all the credits to just naruto in his current fights?at least give some credit to kyuubi as well since he is giving all the chakra,healing naruto and spamming all the jutsus,i just don't understand,like i hear some people saying naruto alone took 5 bijuus blah blah blah even though we know it's kyuubi,i just wanna say acknowledge kyuubi a bit as well.he might not be a human but it's a living thing so at least instead of saying naruto fights against someone,say naruto+kyuubi vs ? or kyuubi jinchuriki vs ?,just my thoughts.what do you think?
you take kurama from naruto then you also take the sharingan,itachis eyes, and formerly the curse seal from sasuke. who do think would win sm naruto or base sasuke who cant even perform chidori without sharingan?thought so
 

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you take kurama from naruto then you also take the sharingan,itachis eyes, and formerly the curse seal from sasuke. who do think would win sm naruto or base sasuke who cant even perform chidori without sharingan?thought so
Naruto was given Kurama and had to beg for his chakra. Sasuke was born with sharingan,awakened it himsel and trained it to it's maturity. EMS was taken,not given and Curse Mark was earned.
 

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Pretty much.

Now, I thought the whole point was that Sasuke was the better fighter and Naruto was powerful but unskilled. DOn't get me wrong, if Naruto work on his taijutsu (which he did during Sage training) he woud get the upper hand on Sasuke.

We just have to wait till the next battle.
 

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Naruto was given Kurama and had to beg for his chakra. Sasuke was born with sharingan,awakened it himsel and trained it to it's maturity. EMS was taken,not given and Curse Mark was earned.
I think most of his powers earned. The least one was EMS, but Naruto was given the nine-tails.
 

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Naruto was trying to claw Sasuke's face off but Sasuke jabbed him and weakened the blow so that there was only a scratch. And ofcourse Naruto wouldn't have a chance to summon Gamabunta if he got chidori'd through the heart.
Oh really? Both attacks were made exactly at the same moment . . . Naruto grabbed Sasuke's head band and Sasuke hit Naruto between the chest and throat . . . Its PNJ that Naruto didnt grab Sasuke's throat and try to rip it . . . Also Naruto didnt get chidori through the heart, there was a Rasengan VS Chidori clash and a some fight scenes first so there were plenty of oppertunity there and also if Naruto cld do a S-Rank jutsu by a single hand in 1T CC, a summoning jutsu is easier to perform . . . Its a pure PNJ.

Anorien16, Naruto lost the match and you know it. Scratching his headband has nothing to do with a victory. It just means he proved Sasuke wrong and that he did managed to win in just breaking Sasuke's statement. He didn't win in anyway, because he failed to bring him to the village and Sakura. Plot-no-jutsu is used all the time just like with Sasuke vs Itachi & Naruto vs Pain.
Of corse i know it, I m not a idiot or a biased dolt, see my last sentence up there . . . try to understand what i want to say: Fanboyism can twist the truth.

Naruto was given Kurama and had to beg for his chakra. Sasuke was born with sharingan,awakened it himsel and trained it to it's maturity. EMS was taken,not given and Curse Mark was earned.
Oh wonderful show of bias, here u yourself say: "The cursed seal was forced upon him,yes,but one doesn't just receive the cursed seal. One must prove themselves to Orochimaru. In the chunnin exams when Sasuke and Orochimaru were fighting,Sasuke was fighting well enough for Orochimaru to believe he was tough enough to handle the cursed seal. Orochimaru wasn't just handing it out randomly. If that was the case then Naruto and Sakura would have received one too(and we all know what a waste of time the latter would be). So Sasuke earned the cursed seal by showcasing his power and/or potential."

But dont realise: The duty of containing Kurama's power too was forced upon him when he was a newborn and that reulted him being hated by his entire village . . . . as for being a jinkchuriki one has to have great power to contain him anyway, most adults went on a rampage but a new born Naruto handled him just fine . . . i agree that CC victories was not earned in ur opinion but KM is quite much earned as Naruto had to train at the falls and beat Kurama to get it, so it is no where near given . . . . also how many people in Narutoverse earned the trust and love of a Biju? Only two i know of . . . that too is a credit that u people deny to give.
 
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you take kurama from naruto then you also take the sharingan,itachis eyes, and formerly the curse seal from sasuke. who do think would win sm naruto or base sasuke who cant even perform chidori without sharingan?thought so
just like he(Tetsu uchiha) said,sasuke earned all of his powers unlike naruto and sharingan is a sign of the uchihas(the elites),ok fine if u want to take something from heritage,let's also take away naruto's strong force of life he inherited from uzumaki clan,what would he be?from his lack of intelligence i doubt he would even be a ninja.haha and by the way naruto being able to do sage mode,rasengan,rasenshuriken,stupid clones etc all of those is because of kyuubi's powers,if not show me proof.:D:D:D:D
 
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just like he(Tetsu uchiha) said,sasuke earned all of his powers unlike naruto and sharingan is a sign of the uchihas(the elites),ok fine if u want to take something from heritage,let's also take away naruto's strong force of life he inherited from uzumaki clan,what would he be?from his lack of intelligence i doubt he would even be a ninja.haha and by the way naruto being able to do sage mode,rasengan,rasenshuriken,stupid clones etc all of those is because of kyuubi's powers,if not show me proof.:D:D:D:D
Life force usage . . . good for holding Biju down, surviving extraction and living long . . . . nope it wont affect Naruto's ninja powers. But i wasnt aware that using Rasengan, Sage Mode required Kurama, then Jirya must have Kurama's twin inside him no..... sorry i missed that in manga. As for stupidity who came up with the plan to free Kakashi from Zabuza?
 

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just like he(Tetsu uchiha) said,sasuke earned all of his powers unlike naruto and sharingan is a sign of the uchihas(the elites),ok fine if u want to take something from heritage,let's also take away naruto's strong force of life he inherited from uzumaki clan,what would he be?from his lack of intelligence i doubt he would even be a ninja.haha and by the way naruto being able to do sage mode,rasengan,rasenshuriken,stupid clones etc all of those is because of kyuubi's powers,if not show me proof.:D:D:D:D
Nice username for a male.... Naruto could still use Kage Bushins, Rasengan, Rasenshuriken and Sage Mode without Kurama, don't be a tosspot and think OOOOO SASUKE RULES HE CAN'T LOOSE HE HAS SHARINGAN AND IS SEXY OOOOOOOO. Sasukes powers are just as much given to him as Narutos if you think Narutos powers are given to him. Sasuke was bought up in a ninja family so of course he would advance in skills at a young age. Naruto on the other hand was hated and neglected all his childhood so he had to teach himself any skills he got.
 
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