Everyone knows Naruto is a crazy healer. Uzamaki body + the fox's chakra. Sasuke won end of story. He wanted to bring Sasuke back so bad that he would break every bone in his body. He failed and Sasuke sparred his life on a whim.
Get over it.
naruto has never defeated sasuke so until then sasuke is the better fighter
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Get over it.
I never said you had to agree, but the manga makes it quite clear on who's the more skillful and smarter fighter between the two. When it comes to power though Naruto's miles ahead of Sasuke as of right now.
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So they both needed help. Theyre even. But Sasuke without help>Gaara without help
Earlier than that.
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And more. Im too lazy.
I have nothing to get over . . . Sasuke won because of Plot no Jutsu, just like u accuse every fight is won due to plot no jutsu . . . Sasuke's only fight too is plot no jutsu. Deal with it. Plus Sasuke said Naruto wont be able to touch Sasuke, so Naruto won the bet, so it was his victory.
See how Fanboy blindness can cause trouble? Everyone knows Sasuke won . . . but if u put up ifs and stupid considerations it causes trouble.
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How was Sasuke winning that fight PNJ? Seriously. Ill tell you what's PNJ,Sasuke aiming his chidori through Naruto's shoulder instead of his heart.
Meowazziel
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I am no naruto or sasuke fan, but i just dont like reading untruths.
Naruto has defeated sasuke several times, directly and indirectly.
Sasuke wasnt able to defeat gaara in their fight in the forest, yet naruto defeated the complete shukaku version with gamabunta.
Sasuke felt inferieur that naruto mangaged to win.
On the hospital roof, naruto won. The damage on the watertank hit by rasengan was far greater than the chidori damage and sasuke started to feel even more inferieur because of it.
In the valley of the end, sasuke said that naruto wouldnt be able to scratch his foreheadprotector.
In their final clash, naruto could have hit sasuke first with the rasengan, but he scratched the foreheadprotector instead.
One of the main reasons that sasuke left konoha, is because he felt inferieur to naruto and he wanted power, which orochimaru could give him.
Tbh, they never had a true 1 on 1 fight.
The hospital roof got interrupted by kakashi.
The valley of the end wasnt a true 1 on 1, because naruto went for the foreheadprotector.
Lol I don't accuse fights of plot. Every fight is won with plot. This was a fair fight. Sasuke proposed a challenge but Naruto shook it off on the very next page. He didn't care about scaracthing his damn forhead. He wanted to bring him back. Which he failed.
Also its PNJ that Naruto scratched Sasuke's forehead instead of ripping Sasuke's throat out . . . . Also its PNJ that Naruto didnt summon Gamabunta and then go 1T CC.
U didnt read my last sentence did u? Read again and try to understand what i said.
Fearmonger
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Naruto was trying to claw Sasuke's face off but Sasuke jabbed him and weakened the blow so that there was only a scratch. And ofcourse Naruto wouldn't have a chance to summon Gamabunta if he got chidori'd through the heart.
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just one question whats the point in bringing sasukes dead body back ???
i think its pretty obvious if narutos rasengan land on sasuke he surely had died.
1st kabuto a specialist in medical healing himself. he started to heal himself before rasengan could even hit him still he almost died because of rasengan.
sasuke was kid compared to kabuto back then. even jiraiya said kabuto can go toe to toe with kakashi. i feel like you are being biased towards sasuke most of the time. if you just get rid of the fanboyism maybe you can be a better at arguments, just my opinion
Lol.
Naruto fan arguments. "Naruto only wanted to scratch his forhead because Sasuke challenged him"
Orrly.
The very next page.
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If all Naruto wanted to do was scratch his damn forhead that could have been done here.
Naruto's whole mission was to bring Sasuke back. (Fact) To many manga pages for this one.
I see you guys are trying to use Sasukes words as a part of Naruto's goals in this fight. Lets see what Naruto himself says.
Sasuke won. Naruto failed.
Naruto fan arguments. "Naruto only wanted to scratch his forhead because Sasuke challenged him"
Orrly.
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The very next page.
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:rofl:
If all Naruto wanted to do was scratch his damn forhead that could have been done here.
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Naruto's whole mission was to bring Sasuke back. (Fact) To many manga pages for this one.
I see you guys are trying to use Sasukes words as a part of Naruto's goals in this fight. Lets see what Naruto himself says.
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Sasuke won. Naruto failed.
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why are you getting so mad ? i am not even a naruto fan. sorry i quoted you, you dont like that fine. i was speaking the truth if you dont like to hear it fine. think whatever you want.
The Pecking Order
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i kinow naruto has alot of chakra but through out the whole of that sasuke retreval arc hes been using many clones even with the kyubii boost also the fat guy from the sound nija four was draining his chakra.This may seem pointless but i just want to let u guys know
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ok i am done talking with you.How am I mad if I'm :rofl: I was posting this before I even read your ridiculous post. Don't flatter yourself.
you dont have any manners how to talk with someone and you cant even accept anyones opinion . thanks i am out
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Hahaha its funny How Sasuke fans Says Crap always, I dont want to chnage there mind infact i cant change there mind, No one can change there mind. just like there Role model(Sasuke) they Never learns.
I Wanna Bring up Some Points here everybody knows the battle at the valley of end but Many people dont get the fact that sasuke actually couldnt have won the battle if Naruto had intensions to kill him.
Ok So lets start from the battle at the Hospital Roof :
Sasuke was obviously jealous of Naruto for getting stronger & Stronger those He was Fighting to destroy Naruto While Naruto was Fighting for his Dream to get fight against his Rival. and this is actually interesting the Moment sasuke did this Naruto Knew Sasuke is making it a personal Battle
a tiger hand sign to use fire style jutsu, sasuke wasnt there for friendly fight he was trying to get personal..... Just see Sasuke saying with his own mouth about the tiger sign
after thinking for a second sasuke is actually calling himself a bastard cause it wasnt kakashi who used tiger sign against his own comrade it was sasauke who used it on his comrade.
And Now After sasuke used Fire jutsu to destroy Naruto, Naruto still survived
But more than that Naruto knew Sasuke is trying to kill him, so you can clearly see the Expression on Naruto's face chnanged & You all know Naruto used get Cocky in old days just like Vegeta. so Naruto was Mad at sasuke so he didnt think for a second and Used Rasengan.... sasuke used Chidori too.
What happened you can see in above pic Now I want to tell you Guys the Difference betwwen Sasuke's " DAMM-IT " and Naruto's " I CANT STOP "
By " DAMM-IT " Sasuke is showing his anger or Dispointment after he saw Naruto's Rasengan is more Powerful.
and By " I CANT STOP " Naruto was showing his Regret to not been able to stop cause he knew It could have killed Sasuke.
Kakashi Tries to teach Sasuke that never try to kill your own Comrades & its Clear Kakashi lies to Sasuke just to make him feel good by letting him think that He is stronger But Sasuke dont learn the Lesson just Like how Lord Sasuke Fans never learns a Lesson.
Wow calm down Kid, I dont how strong Naruto is really, but i know you are much more weaker than him.
Now See the TRUTH & this time Kakashi isnt telling it to Naruto or Sasuke to Make them feel good, this time he is Telling the truth Sasuke was Dead IF Kakashi havent made the save.
^ Lol just look all this Words & Sasuke still dont learns anything Just Like how sasuke Fans Never learn.
Now lets see how much words are needed to calm down Naruto ?
Jiraiya said it just few words & there you go Naruto is all good again Cause he Learns when Someone Try to teach him something
See to Clear Why Sasuke won in Valley of the End is Because Naruto didnt intent to kill him at all :
See Sasuke admitting the diffrence betwwen Powers
Now Look You can See Naruto Dont want to kill sasuke at all He is even asking Sasuke How could he even think to kill his Own Comrade.
But Sadly for Sasuke he Never Learns & he is thinking that Naruto wants to kill him so he tries to kill Naruto for just cause
in the next pages Sasuke says ^ this but the Fact is He didnt understand Naruto's Motives at all, Sasuke was Fool to think Naruto is Planning to kill him. on on the Other hand Naruto was Well aware of Sasuke's suffering sohe didnt wanted to kill him/His own Comrade. That Being said Only Naruto was Able to read the mind of Sasuke that Shows even at that time only Naruuto was First class Ninja not Sasuke. cause sasuke failed to realise everything.
Sasuke was Naive kid Back then & Still is its also Confirmed by Itachi that Sasuke is still naive brat.
^ Now here is the FACt Sasuke aimed his Chidori at Naruto's body But You can clearly see Naruto aimed it at Sasuke's Forhead Protector So that Sasuke dont get killed by his Rasengan.
^ Close look Rasengan at Forhead Protector.
There was 2 Reasons Why Naruto Aim his Rasengan on Sasuke's Forhead Protector & not on his Body .
1. Naruto didnt want to kill sasuke
2.
^ Is to Prove This to Sasuke without killing him.
NOW Some Sasuke Fans Will say Bullshit & its been stated inmanga that they are Equal & all
I mean come on Give me a Break you Guys Seriouslty think Main Character is going to Equal to his Rival HAHAHAHA
Well just to Prove you guys Wrong See this
^ Many People Misunderstand this as They Both are Equal No they are not You Guys Dont See it. Yes They will Both Die not because they are equal but Cause Naruto wants to die cause he cant bear the Burden to kill his own Comrade But on the same time Naruto Cant let Sasuke Hurt Village so Naruto will Kill Sasuke but doing so He cant handle the burden to Kill his own comrade.
Also the Fact Naruto and Sasuke are not Equal, Naruto is Stronger than Sasuke but the Reason why Naruto Said they both will Die is Cause
He Always Wants to be EQUAL to Sasuke not Stronger than Him But Sadly for him He is Stronger than Sasuke.
But On the other Hand Sasuke Always Considered Naruto Below him Even though sad thing is Sasuke was Below Naruto & Still is Below Naruto.
See this
and Because of the Ego & Hate towards Village For what they done to Itachi, Sasuke Cant accept that he is Weaker than Naruto See this
When the Fist Meets They Understand Eachother, and Sasuke Learned that Naruto is Stronger than Him but Still he wont kill him Thats why you can see sasuke's Face Expression changed & he actually have tears in his eyes
If its Not Enough then see this Sp after Learning that Naruto is Stronger but still he is not Going to kill Sasuke, Sasuke gets Mad and ask Questions to Naruto why Would you do all this ? that shows even sasuke is Thinking why would he do all this
I'll Tell you why Yes Right now they Have became first class Shinobi But Sasuke is Still the Naive kid Who Never learns anything, Its Because Sasuke is Naruto's Comrade. Naruto learned from Older Shinobi's & always been taking there words seriously. as for sasuke he is too dumb to learn all this just like how his Fans Never learns that Naruto was Meant to be Stronger .
I Wanna Bring up Some Points here everybody knows the battle at the valley of end but Many people dont get the fact that sasuke actually couldnt have won the battle if Naruto had intensions to kill him.
Ok So lets start from the battle at the Hospital Roof :
Sasuke was obviously jealous of Naruto for getting stronger & Stronger those He was Fighting to destroy Naruto While Naruto was Fighting for his Dream to get fight against his Rival. and this is actually interesting the Moment sasuke did this Naruto Knew Sasuke is making it a personal Battle
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a tiger hand sign to use fire style jutsu, sasuke wasnt there for friendly fight he was trying to get personal..... Just see Sasuke saying with his own mouth about the tiger sign
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after thinking for a second sasuke is actually calling himself a bastard cause it wasnt kakashi who used tiger sign against his own comrade it was sasauke who used it on his comrade.
And Now After sasuke used Fire jutsu to destroy Naruto, Naruto still survived
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But more than that Naruto knew Sasuke is trying to kill him, so you can clearly see the Expression on Naruto's face chnanged & You all know Naruto used get Cocky in old days just like Vegeta. so Naruto was Mad at sasuke so he didnt think for a second and Used Rasengan.... sasuke used Chidori too.
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What happened you can see in above pic Now I want to tell you Guys the Difference betwwen Sasuke's " DAMM-IT " and Naruto's " I CANT STOP "
By " DAMM-IT " Sasuke is showing his anger or Dispointment after he saw Naruto's Rasengan is more Powerful.
and By " I CANT STOP " Naruto was showing his Regret to not been able to stop cause he knew It could have killed Sasuke.
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Kakashi Tries to teach Sasuke that never try to kill your own Comrades & its Clear Kakashi lies to Sasuke just to make him feel good by letting him think that He is stronger But Sasuke dont learn the Lesson just Like how Lord Sasuke Fans never learns a Lesson.
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Wow calm down Kid, I dont how strong Naruto is really, but i know you are much more weaker than him.
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Now See the TRUTH & this time Kakashi isnt telling it to Naruto or Sasuke to Make them feel good, this time he is Telling the truth Sasuke was Dead IF Kakashi havent made the save.
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^ Lol just look all this Words & Sasuke still dont learns anything Just Like how sasuke Fans Never learn.
Now lets see how much words are needed to calm down Naruto ?
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Jiraiya said it just few words & there you go Naruto is all good again Cause he Learns when Someone Try to teach him something
See to Clear Why Sasuke won in Valley of the End is Because Naruto didnt intent to kill him at all :
See Sasuke admitting the diffrence betwwen Powers
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Now Look You can See Naruto Dont want to kill sasuke at all He is even asking Sasuke How could he even think to kill his Own Comrade.
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But Sadly for Sasuke he Never Learns & he is thinking that Naruto wants to kill him so he tries to kill Naruto for just cause
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in the next pages Sasuke says ^ this but the Fact is He didnt understand Naruto's Motives at all, Sasuke was Fool to think Naruto is Planning to kill him. on on the Other hand Naruto was Well aware of Sasuke's suffering sohe didnt wanted to kill him/His own Comrade. That Being said Only Naruto was Able to read the mind of Sasuke that Shows even at that time only Naruuto was First class Ninja not Sasuke. cause sasuke failed to realise everything.
Sasuke was Naive kid Back then & Still is its also Confirmed by Itachi that Sasuke is still naive brat.
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^ Now here is the FACt Sasuke aimed his Chidori at Naruto's body But You can clearly see Naruto aimed it at Sasuke's Forhead Protector So that Sasuke dont get killed by his Rasengan.
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^ Close look Rasengan at Forhead Protector.
There was 2 Reasons Why Naruto Aim his Rasengan on Sasuke's Forhead Protector & not on his Body .
1. Naruto didnt want to kill sasuke
2.
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^ Is to Prove This to Sasuke without killing him.
NOW Some Sasuke Fans Will say Bullshit & its been stated inmanga that they are Equal & all
I mean come on Give me a Break you Guys Seriouslty think Main Character is going to Equal to his Rival HAHAHAHA
Well just to Prove you guys Wrong See this
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^ Many People Misunderstand this as They Both are Equal No they are not You Guys Dont See it. Yes They will Both Die not because they are equal but Cause Naruto wants to die cause he cant bear the Burden to kill his own Comrade But on the same time Naruto Cant let Sasuke Hurt Village so Naruto will Kill Sasuke but doing so He cant handle the burden to Kill his own comrade.
Also the Fact Naruto and Sasuke are not Equal, Naruto is Stronger than Sasuke but the Reason why Naruto Said they both will Die is Cause
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He Always Wants to be EQUAL to Sasuke not Stronger than Him But Sadly for him He is Stronger than Sasuke.
But On the other Hand Sasuke Always Considered Naruto Below him Even though sad thing is Sasuke was Below Naruto & Still is Below Naruto.
See this
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and Because of the Ego & Hate towards Village For what they done to Itachi, Sasuke Cant accept that he is Weaker than Naruto See this
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When the Fist Meets They Understand Eachother, and Sasuke Learned that Naruto is Stronger than Him but Still he wont kill him Thats why you can see sasuke's Face Expression changed & he actually have tears in his eyes
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If its Not Enough then see this Sp after Learning that Naruto is Stronger but still he is not Going to kill Sasuke, Sasuke gets Mad and ask Questions to Naruto why Would you do all this ? that shows even sasuke is Thinking why would he do all this
I'll Tell you why Yes Right now they Have became first class Shinobi But Sasuke is Still the Naive kid Who Never learns anything, Its Because Sasuke is Naruto's Comrade. Naruto learned from Older Shinobi's & always been taking there words seriously. as for sasuke he is too dumb to learn all this just like how his Fans Never learns that Naruto was Meant to be Stronger .
