Naruto =failure

[SasukeEMS111]

...Alright - he relies on the Kyuubi. Now why aren't you bashing Gaara or Killer Bee, too? It was the same deal there.

Anything he's taught - hello, a shinobi has to learn things. Just like everyone.

Talk no jutsu? You think he just goes into a fight knowing he'll persuade them to chill out or back down? Don't think so. It's part of Naruto's charm as the main character.

Using his chakra boost recklessly? He's Naruto - of course.

...I'm a SasuNaru fan (don't anyone bash me), but the kiss was an accident. And he idolized Sasuke as kids; I can promise you he doesn't now. At least not in the same way. He doesn't need to.

Less entertaining battles? Look at Sasuke - he uses mostly Chidori and the Sharigan. The Rasengan and the Shadow Clone Jutsu are both the base of Naruto's skills.

Naruto's not meant to be very smart. He's a goof ball.

And the saving stuff? Everyone needs a hand sometimes. Durr.

-crosses arms-

Nicely said

 

[Myth]

All things considered Naruto beat Kakuzu without the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox's power. Plus, a large number of the characters Naruto faces have their own 'unique' skills. Sasuke's got his Sharingan (and variants), Nagato had the Rinnegan, Kakuzu effectively had five lives from the hearts he harvested prior to fighting Naruto. Seeing as Naruto seemingly lacks any Kekkei Genkai of his own, it makes sense that he'd have the Fox's power to even things out for him.

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

You fail

 

[Mr PLATINUM]

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the link keeps taking me to sasuke bleeding all over himself after bee's lariet. U_U

 

[naruto kyuubi]

I am nt a fanboy bt tell me wise guy who doesnt need help or guiding in any field.without kyuubi naruto could master the hand seals.and sage mode the learning was easy was it?even jman couldnt learn it all.plus thanx to kyuubi he cant go into the amphibian sage mode.he spams rasengan and shadow clones hell he should.sharingan or byakugan or even rinnengan is used continuosly bt thats nt spamming as its kkg.now tell me what ur talent in acquiring it except being born that too is nt ur work by the way.now rasengan a jutsu developed by the 4th can be said to be naruto's blood line gift as is kyuubi these were the gifts of his parents.now when sauske gets ems no one screams anythng bt come on thats itachi's gift as well.he gets curse seal uses it to defeat deidara no one says anythng.nw did he invent the curse seal? Orochimaru did.naruto completed a jutsu that neither minato nor kakashi could do.he developed frs.naruto masterd km thanx to bee alright.then tell me did sauske learn chidori himself even nagato had to be taught so was minato or itachi.bt what brings me to the point is in the process of learning true credit lies with the student nt with the teacher.both naruto and sauske are great admit it

 

[lubricati0n]

he was given the ninetail by his father
- with out the ninetail he will die instantly but it healing ability save him

He was taught SM by the toad

He was taught KM by killerbee and also tail beast boom

He was tail resangan from jiraya which he now spamming it

He spam the ultimate jutsu TNJ=Talk no jutsu against his opponents in order to win (eg pein/nagato)

He KM and also SM give him a chakra booster but he use them recklessly even mei bodyguard said so when he was fighting the black zetsu

Naruto want to be like sasuke base on power and personality and he even kiss him.Since the kiss he got stupid and want sasuke back to konoha for more bromance

Naruto make battle less entertainting because he use shadow clone (if that not work ) ---> resengan (if that not work) ---->sm but use kyubi to save him.
Naruto technically did not use inttelligant against edo raikage because the sensor link his mind to killerbee to get info to beat him
Naruto was save by itachi from nagato twice when his soul was extreacted and also when nagato use moon gravitational like jutsu
Naruto also was save by the half bakyugan guy when the raikage was going to attack ( he put naruto in a rubber ball to save him )

Time to to the same for your weakling emo Sasuke.

1) He was born into the Uchiha clan, if this didn't happen 1 tailed Kyuubi cloak would have insta-killed him.

2) He was given the curse mark by Oro.

3) He was given MS and EMS. Sasuke then spams Amaterasu and Susano'o.

4) He copied Chidori from Kakashi in which he spammed.

5) He cried like a baby to justify his pathetic reasoning for trying to destroy Konoha.

6) His free power-ups give him OP techniques that he didn't even train for.

7) Don't lie, they are both sexually attracted to each other.

Sasuke makes battles boring because he uses (Amaterasu-->Susano'o-->Chidori-->Amaterasu-->Chidori, he is then saved by Tobi, Zetsu, Karin, Juugo, Suigetsu quite a few times)

Sorry, but your Lord Sasuke is one depressing man.

 

[BigTDogg220]

The thread creator refers to Sasuke as Lord Sasuke, there is no point in debating with someone who has made a fictional character his master.

 

[Sasanooslayer]

The thing is naruto spams resen because he is good at it and can create different variations if we watched a crap load of itachi or sasuke or whoever else fights they would use similar moves a lot as well. Simply because that's their battle plan, if you want to be unrealistic and say they always go in having no ****en clue how they will fight, then that's your problem. Also don't turn this into a "naruto didn't earn anything" discussion ninetails was a abnormal thing, and he battled it his whole life to keep his sanity, and not turn out like preshippiden gaara. I can't say the same for sasuke learning sharingan. Resen was intense training and was completely legit, also remember just about ever lightning style ability sasuke has is based off chidori. SM is very hard to learn and he did have a unfair advantage with giant chakra storage, but it's still very hard dangerous intense training not everyone can pass *as shown by rows and rows of those who could not master sage chakra at the toad village* km is result of having nine tails and it once again was beating the nine tails *not a ****en easy feat even with help* and intense training. While for sasuke it's been cry 2 tombs, get bitten then cry curse mark *as oro only wanted him for his sharingan* cry 3 tomb sharingan and level 2 curse mark. Win a rigged fight against a sickly guy ms, spam ms gets ems. The onlythings I give him credit for is his lightning fire and summoning skills otherwise its just result of being uchiha *excluding chidori and all it's variations like chidori stream as you need sharingan to see while using it and kakashi would not have tought him a Justus he can't fully use

 

[Neezy]

Yeah but you must understand naruto is the main character meaniing that he will become the strongest.. he is very strong at the moment and recieved sage mode and his rasen shuriken he perfected as you mentioned and even recieved the key to unlock the nine tales(hectic!!!!!!).

Sasuke on the other hand is considered the sencond important character so he will also become the second most strongest.. with Mangekyō Sharingan awakened, Amaterasu, Susanoo, Tsukuyomi he is powerfull.

This will be the best fight in the entire naruto and naruto shippuden series..Umazaki Naruto vs Uchiha Sasuke

Wait nope come to think of it I dont think naruto will become stronger than sasuke and vice versa so they will be the same level throughout the series from now on.. when they fight like naruto said, I quote "Sasuke you know if i die so will you". They both will die if they eventually fight.

 

[rasenshintan]

He is half failure because he always loses to sasuke if they jumped sasuke they could of got him back jariya made rasengan look cool naruto uses it too much naruto is my fave character buthe is slippin up oh and without the ninetails naruto would suck

 

[mshee]

your the dumbest narutobase member now ..
well sasuke exactely this same way ...
kakashi taught sasuke chidori , so he made alot of variations of it , itachi gave sasuke his ms and tobi gave sasuke his ems .
lets not forget orochimaru gave him alot of power too .

hell yeah!!!!!-+

 

[Lt Fresh]

Naruto isnt a failure at all. Like you said he was taught all of those things. Every ninja was taught something, thats how techs are passed on. The only thing naruto was given was the Tailed Beast. From there he was taught and practiced on how to control it. If anything Naruto is a real ninja.

Sasuke was never really taught anything instead he got lucky from people taking an intreset in him wanting him to become stronger for their own benefit. Thus they gave him power so that they can gain power

 

[Height No Jutsu]

...Alright - he relies on the Kyuubi. Now why aren't you bashing Gaara or Killer Bee, too? It was the same deal there.

Anything he's taught - hello, a shinobi has to learn things. Just like everyone.

Talk no jutsu? You think he just goes into a fight knowing he'll persuade them to chill out or back down? Don't think so. It's part of Naruto's charm as the main character.

Using his chakra boost recklessly? He's Naruto - of course.

...I'm a SasuNaru fan (don't anyone bash me), but the kiss was an accident. And he idolized Sasuke as kids; I can promise you he doesn't now. At least not in the same way. He doesn't need to.

Less entertaining battles? Look at Sasuke - he uses mostly Chidori and the Sharigan. The Rasengan and the Shadow Clone Jutsu are both the base of Naruto's skills.

Naruto's not meant to be very smart. He's a goof ball.

And the saving stuff? Everyone needs a hand sometimes. Durr.

-crosses arms-

Man ur 1 heck of a kind . TRUE !!!

 

[Height No Jutsu]

Naruto is a looser. He has such a dumb mind, he cannot even understand some meaningful talk on chakra nature or any lecture. He didn't have a bit of analyzing ability. Pure fool, always runs first without using a little brain and always ends in trouble. He didn't have a little chakra control, he is only strong because kuubi is always to give him chakra.

He is also a super fool to chase a same fool friend sasuke who is total fool, and naruto is bigger fool to expect him to come back and be his friend.

NO HE ISN'T LETS SEE HE HAD NO PARENTS TO TEACH HIM ANYTHING AND THATS N.A.R.O.T.U. MAN GET IN UR MIND PEOPLE :flaw::flaw:

 

[Rayz3n]

If it wasn't for the cursed mark Naruto would have kicked his ass way until he'd reached the moon way back at the End Valley...

 

[Lunir]

If it wasn't for the cursed mark Naruto would have kicked his ass way until he'd reached the moon way back at the End Valley...

If it wasn't for the fox naruto would be dead....whats your point?

Said it before will say it again, both Naruto and Sasuke have been given power by their respective families (Minato/Kushina and Itachi) both had help from the Sanin (oro and jman) both spam variations of a tech passed down to them (Rasengan and Chidori) both have Ultimates handed to them (Susano from Itachi and EMS from his eyes, KM from his mothers help and fathers sacrifice in sealing it not to mention the reseal done by Minato's spirit) both are two side of the same coin, neither would be where they are on their own, and both have shown amazing skill adaptation and perseverance.

 

[naruto1246]

sasuke will have obtain ms without itachi help because how itachi did get ms if he did not kill shusi and how did kakashi did also obtain ms?

sasuke is an sharigan user eventually he will copy alot of jutsu from his opponent and will obtain similar skill or better skills ( technically he did not need kakashi or orichimaru)

if kakashi learn lightning jutsu by some method sasuke will do the same

all I got from this is that if sasuke didnt have the sharingan he'd be like sakura before shippuden weak

 

[Lunir]

all I got from this is that if sasuke didnt have the sharingan he'd be like sakura before shippuden weak

Wasn't he top of his class and able to master an element (fire release goukakyu) before he was able to wield the sharingan and before he was even a genin.

 

[Naruto Uzumaki Namikaze]

:hey:,
I want to say that Naruto isn´t a failure :flaw:.
It doesn´t mean Naruto is weak, because someone has teached him jutsus (Rasengan or Kuchyose or.....)or the matter that he has the Nine-tail in him, it doesn´t mean that Naruto is weak he is pretty damn strong and I think it was his erfort, his hard training and that so many people believe in him and that he has the strenght to never give up, these things alone must be enought to change your opinion about naruto. But before I forget, like you all can see it is really hard to control the tailed-beasts but Naruto have mastered it half the way so maybe you should thing about this again and I really really really don´t like Sasuke but he is strong, (he had learned the jutsus from Orochimaru and the others) so he couldn´t gain his strengh on his own but I think it´s good that he is strong because, if he were weak then Naruto hadn´t an strong oponent as him :y.

So I L.I.K.E. Naruto verry much and I think you guy´s too, if not you weren´t in NB, so let us belief wease: in Naruto thogether.

 

[Lunir]

:hey:,
I want to say that Naruto isn´t a failure :flaw:.
It doesn´t mean Naruto is weak, because someone has teached him jutsus (Rasengan or Kuchyose or.....)or the matter that he has the Nine-tail in him, it doesn´t mean that Naruto is weak he is pretty damn strong and I think it was his erfort, his hard training and that so many people believe in him and that he has the strenght to never give up, these things alone must be enought to change your opinion about naruto. But before I forget, like you all can see it is really hard to control the tailed-beasts but Naruto have mastered it half the way so maybe you should thing about this again and I really really really don´t like Sasuke but he is strong, (he had learned the jutsus from Orochimaru and the others) so he couldn´t gain his strengh on his own but I think it´s good that he is strong because, if he were weak then Naruto hadn´t an strong oponent as him :y.

So I L.I.K.E. Naruto verry much and I think you guy´s too, if not you weren´t in NB, so let us belief wease: in Naruto thogether.

Agreed, Naruto was given help along the way and given the Kyubi at birth. Though slow to start and often somewhat dim witted he has taken what he was given and pushed past the expectations of his piers. He has one or two major character flaws, he constantly tries to do things on his own and he is some what slow to analysis most of the time (though some exceptions like how to take down the 3rd raikage after conversing with the 8 tails), despite these "failures" he has proven himself a well capable shinobi.

This is also said for Sasuke however. He was born with the sharingan, he was helped to awaken the MS and taught Chidori, but it was thanks to his own skill and ambition that he was able to push himself to these ends, he was able to cast away his best friend and his new family (team 7) in order to seek more strength you can't say that was easy to do. But he too has some major character flaws, he is easy to anger and consumed by revenge but despite this he is immensely strong although misguided.