Naruto even without the kyubi would still be kage level

[senxy]

Naruto without Kurama and without sage mode is not even jōnin level in my opinion... ok maybe...maaaaaybe jōnin, Kage no way. With SM, no kyuubi ... I would say... equivalent to S rank. Naruto beat Pain in the end because of Kurama... I don't think he could have done that without kyuubi's help. Kakashi kicks the shit out of Naruto (Naruto with no SM and Kyuubi(assisting him in anyway possible)), he's just too smart and experienced for him...and Kakashi, despite his lack of showing it, is Kage level...

 

[BodyFlicker]

naruto doesnt need kyuubi to be a hokage ƸӜƷ

what a great answer if naruto does not have kyubi he became full sage and that chakra which he use suppress kyubi and whatlarge he can do...............

 

[BodyFlicker]

Naruto:
perfect Sage mode(beat jiraiya)
Kage Bunshin(kin jutsu)
amazing chakra(like a boss)
rasengan
wind style rasengan
rasen shuriken (beat minato)
summoning of toads(food cart destroyer)
toad jutsu combination
great tai jutsu with or without bunshin (remember him fighting sasuke, pain, orochimaru?)
child of the prophecy
saviour of the world
no. 1 unpredictable ninja(strategy in a funny way)

something tells me he can be kage level:y

p.s. like the fourth, he has perfected his ultimate s rank jutsu....SEXY JUTSU!

u are right but rasenshuriken can beat minato:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: its fully false mister!!!

 

[Yondaime Namikaze]

no kyuubi and naruto wouldnt have survived long enough for this question to be asked , any way yea he is but

there is a difference is creating something and someone teaching you something

 

[bender]

base naruto- jonin
sm naruto- kage
km or bm naruto- madara, nagato, tobi, kabuto lvl

 

[onecruz]

Im about to clarify to all the naruto haters why naruto even without the kyubi is kage level or higher.

Naruto learned the rassengan in 3 days something that took Minato who was a once in a decade genius according to Jiraya that means naruto's potiental surpasses even a once in a decade genius

as said here.

Kakashi who is kage level starts wondering if BASE Naruto surpassed him.

He surpassed Minato in terms of the rassengan by learning to change the chakra nature of it and learning the rasenshuriken something that a genius like Minato was trying to do his whole life.

I know some people say that naruto is pathetic because he needs a shadow clones to do the rassengan but most ninjas cant do the rassengan it would take even talented ninjas probadly decades to do it with or without clones the only reason Kakashi did it was because of his sharington and even then it probadly took him several years to copy it perfectly.

Naruto who was trainning to learn sage mode in a very short period of time surpassed jiraya in the technique learning a perfect sage mode.

SM Naruto put up a great fight aganist Pain i know he had intel on him and it took him to go up until the 8 tails to beat him but for him in sage mode to put up a fight aganist a rinnegan user he must be kage level with or without intel.

I hope i got though to you Naruto haters.

i agree with the TS.

naruto is kage level and a hero of konoha.
other than that, sasuke branded a high criminal.
funny, they're still genins hehehe :sy:

peace <3

 

[Houssem]

Minato didnt learn the rasengan, he created it outa'nothing.
Still agree that without kyubi naruto is a badass.

 

[Uchihagodzzz]

No one is really strong without their "special" abilities...Naruto without SM/Kyuubi is like saying Sasuke without his eyes/Uchiha blood-fireball
Like saying Kakashi without his Sharingan
Like saying Pain without the rinnengan
Like saying Tobi without Space-time travel
Like saying the Sannin without their summons
Like saying Taijutsu users can't use taijutsu.

Quit hating on a character because he has a "special" ability. Every ninja has one. And without it, they would suck.

 

[Solo]

Didn't Naruto beat the 3rd Hokage with Sexy Jutsu?

 

[2nd hokage]

to all the haters lets remember that narutos chakra is blue the nine tails red and when together gold what color is the rasengan blue so its not nine tails chakra. Also the nine tails boost narutos healing not speed but naruto can use that chakra with his own to boost power. naruto is stronger than his father and mother b/c he has both there strong points. and a kage in the leaf is not the strongest but the most devoted to his village hence naruto is kage worthy.

 

[Naruto9001]

No one is really strong without their "special" abilities...Naruto without SM/Kyuubi is like saying Sasuke without his eyes/Uchiha blood-fireball
Like saying Kakashi without his Sharingan
Like saying Pain without the rinnengan
Like saying Tobi without Space-time travel
Like saying the Sannin without their summons
Like saying Taijutsu users can't use taijutsu.

Quit hating on a character because he has a "special" ability. Every ninja has one. And without it, they would suck.

Finally a intelligent post i agree with all of this.

 

[Exaar]

Naruto without the Kyuubi is Low Kage, Or Mid Kage at Best with SM. Without SM he is at Best a Jounin.

Kakashi Is Low Tier Kage himself, kakashi > Base Naruto, "surpassing" Someone Doesn't mean you can beat them.
base Naruto has Only "surpassed" Kakashi and Minato in terms of Taking Rasengan to the next Level, Nothing more.

Also Creating A Jutsu from Nothing is Alot harder than Learning Existing Jutsu's, Thats why Naruto Learnt it Quicker than Minato.

Kakashi > Base Naruto
Kakashi < Sm Naruto

Minato >>>>>> Base naruto
Minato > Sm naruto.

 

[bender]

naruto sm can beat: tsunade, miszukage, and uhhh possibly ooniko

 

[The Necromancer]

Base naruto with SM is better than jiraiya (arguably) who is kage level himself.

 

[Logan923]

Saying Naruto learned the technique faster than Minato is pointless. Do you know why? Because Minato invented the rasengan, so i'm sure he had to work out the bugs all by himself.

As for Naruto learning the RasenShuriken, this was impressive and it did make Kakashi feel like it was time to pass the tourch. But if you notice, Naruto has the fox eyes whenever he does that jutsu, except that his eyes are still blue.

Naruto did beat Jiraya in learning the Sage mode technique, im not gonna argue there, im not gonna say he surpassed jiraya though. Even though Jiraya was killed by pain, Nagato said himself that if he didn't have his 'Six paths of Pain' secret, he would have probably lost.

Naruto would not beat the Kages without his Nine Tails Chakra. The Raikage would have taken him out easily had he not had Kyuubi mode, and Naruto certainly would not stand a chance in hell at beating sasuke if Kurama was not there to aid him.

Saying Naruto is a boss without Kyuubi, is somewhat true, but lets not get crazy.

 

[Satoshi]

Naruto without kyuubi has his shadow clones, transformation technique, rasengan, rasenshuraken, toad summon and sage mode .
He also has a naturally high chakra reserve due to being an uzumaki.
So I'd say he is at least s rank or low kage .
But I do believe he has a problem with his speed ( let's just wait and see if kishi will let him learn FTG *sigh*l )

 

[EonForce42]

He's definitely Kage level w/ Sage Mode. The real question would be how strong is he without all the power-ups?

Real question is where would the Main Characters be with all there special power-ups.

 

[Kakashii]

Naruto's enormous chakra comes from him being a uzumaki. Uzumakis have 100x more chakra than regular ninjas.

where did u get that number from?
base naruto has the same amount of chakra that hiruzen might had in his prime...

 

[bender]

jmans sage mode seems better to me then naruto's and @logan923 since u handicapped naruto lets handicap sasuke, who wins sasuke(no sharingan) vs naruto(no kurama)

 

[PAIN162]

well said