Naruto > EMS Madara - clarification

Naruto stronger than EMS Madara?


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...Are there any smart un biased Naruto people out here? Some silly Naruto fan boy.. again.

Ok so basically it is safe to say That Madara isnt just Madara. It is the 1st Hokage+Pain+Madara vs. Naruto+Kyuubi+Sage.. Stop riding Naruto's ninja **** and be real. He is very very strong but Madara is not to be recokened with at all! And you want to flame the TBB??? Well what about those two instant meteors madara sent down on Oonoki's weak tail? He also has clones too. Plus what makes you think Madara will stand around and let himself be hit lol? Naruto wil have to work for those hits. Done. I voted I don't now by the way.

How hard is it to see that this is EMS Madara and not the current edo version it takes no effort to read the title properly. The one that was forced to use rinnengan because of a clone.
 

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EMS madara cleary has the rinnegan so why not put the real madara such as Rinnegan/EMS Madara?

That is the reason Madara>Naruto for the simple fact he has the rinngean and a sht ton of experience+large scale moves that naruto does not have.

You people go on like Madara has low chakra...do you people honestly think a man that controlled the nine tailed fox and fought hashirama at the same time has LOW CHAKRA?

His eye preception unrivaled by any uchiha to date and he was the only one to see through mokuton clones...so do you think he would have any problem finding the real naruto with his perfect susassno?You people underrate the Uchiha far to much.

I like how you say "the one that was forced to use a clone" clearly when it was 2v1 at that moment when Garra swooped him from under his susassno_Of course he was forced to use the rinnengan because of GARRAA.God naruto fans are ridiculous at times.

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How hard is it to see that this is EMS Madara and not the current edo version it takes no effort to read the title properly. The one that was forced to use rinnengan because of a clone.
jesus christ. are you sure we are reading the same manga?

-last time i checked gaara and onoki were there as well

-last time i checked madara held back

-last time i checked, he didnt use perfect susano back then or even a regular walking twin susano which would have nullified gaaras little tactic.

-last time i checked, madara had no knowledge on the people he was facing except onoki while onoki and gaara had knowledge on him from fighting ms techs before.
 

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jesus christ. are you sure we are reading the same manga?

-last time i checked gaara and onoki were there as well

-last time i checked madara held back

-last time i checked, he didnt use perfect susano back then or even a regular walking twin susano which would have nullified gaaras little tactic.

-last time i checked, madara had no knowledge on the people he was facing except onoki while onoki and gaara had knowledge on him from fighting ms techs before.

Oh yeah i forgot about onoki helping Gaara to even do what he did.
 

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How hard is it to see that this is EMS Madara and not the current edo version it takes no effort to read the title properly. The one that was forced to use rinnengan because of a clone.


yes because madara clearly isn't capable of activating perfect susanoo in a split second.

It is just like saying amaterasu can't be counterd by preta path cause kabuto chose to shinra tensei it away.

saying EMS madara would have been beaten by a rasenshuriken from a clone just because Edo madara chose a more convenient counter is laughable.
 
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jesus christ. are you sure we are reading the same manga?

-last time i checked gaara and onoki were there as well

-last time i checked madara held back

-last time i checked, he didnt use perfect susano back then or even a regular walking twin susano which would have nullified gaaras little tactic.

-last time i checked, madara had no knowledge on the people he was facing except onoki while onoki and gaara had knowledge on him from fighting ms techs before.

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I don't want to just give the meme as a reply. I know what ems Madara can do, just mentioned he went straight for rinnengan because he was going to get taken out by that combination.

But ems Madara and edo Madara are two different storeis. He can get taken out by a tbb. He said ps is comparable to a bijuu, Naruto's tbb is comparable to a combination of 5 tbb's, ps isn't tanking that.

He's got genjutsu and probabably amaterasu, but neither are working. Genjutsu is negated by being a perfect jinchuuriki and amaterasu by his speed.


yes because madara clearly isn't capable of activating perfect susanoo in a split second.

It is just like saying amaterasu can't be counterd by preta path cause kabuto chose to shinra tensei it away.

saying EMS madara would have been beaten by a rasenshuriken from a clone just because Edo madara chose a more convenient counter is laughable.

Slit second? no. He would have got taken out after by that clone if he didn't use petra path. Can he even activate susanoo whilst he's already got a susanoo out? I haven't seen a susanoo within a susanoo before.
 
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Yea, as much as i hate to go against main stream nb, naruto is winning this fight.

2 points to make.

1.) Madara is NOT controlling/suppressing/messing with kurama, at all. Naruto is past that point, read the manga.

2.) madara has pretty much made it clear that using p.s. is practically suicide with a non-edo body. Ems madara CAN'T keep up p.s. for ever, were as naruto with speeds past the raikage, and comparable to minato's s/t/ techs can avoid p.s. (with reason) forever.
 

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Lol what susanoo within a susanoo?

What are you talking about, he got taken out of his susanoo

ANd yes the activation of susanoo again and again by the uchihas has taken very little time *cough*itachi*cough*

Madara was almost sealed by the time he activated PS and yet he went from no susanoo to a susanoo bigger than the meteor in no time
 
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Lol what susanoo within a susanoo?

What are you talking about, he got taken out of his susanoo

ANd yes the activation of susanoo again and again by the uchihas has taken very little time

Madara was almost sealed by the time he activated PS and yet he went from no susanoo to a susanoo bigger than the meteor in no time

I don't think he can have two susanoo's at the same time, that's what i'm on about. When he was pulled out his susanoo was still activated.
 
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I don't think he can have two susanoo's at the same time, that's what i'm on about. When he was pulled out his susanoo was still activated. Nothing to ps in a split second isn't happening.

but it happened.

Just compare the last two pages of that chap. :cool:
 

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but it happened.

Just compare the last two pages of that chap. :cool:

You posted before my edit. I compared the two pages and agree that susanoo's activation is fast, but my main point is having two susanoo's at the same time isn't happening.

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You posted before my edit. I compared the two pages and agree that susanoo's activation is fast, but my main point is having two susanoo's at the same time isn't happening.

and .

It is just speculation
susanoo is just chakra materialized and we have seen that the users can activate just parts like like hands, even though there is nothing to support ( ribcage )

And sasuke went from ribcage to a full skeleton at the summit

And that ribcage version cannot sustain itself without the user ( madaras vanished after madara got pulled out )
so I disagree that madara couldn't have pulled out PS, he could have done it, the partial susanoo would have vanished with no madara inside it
 

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Naruto is overestimated. Did Naruto use his bunch of clones against Nagato? Did he use them against Tobi at the beginning? When did he used them in an actual fight? The clones would just drain his Chakra. And one swing of Susanoos sword would destroy them. By using his perfect tailed beast bomb, he is a perfect target for Amaterasu while forming it in his huge Chakra cloak. And if Tobi could simply dodge Narutos mini Bijudama, why not Madara? You don't have to overestimate Naruto so much.

^^Couldn't have said it any better.
 

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You are kidding right? I may be a Naruto fanboy, but god. ITS FRIGGIN' MADARA! No way in hell. I can see Naruto and Sasuke Tagteam, ;)
 

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Hell, BM Naruto should be able to counter or tank one of Madara's swings. 50% Kurama tanked 20+ proclaimed mountain hollowers and FRS, and a chakra roar might be able to counter one.

Anywho, if Naruto lands a TBB, he wins.
 

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He cant... beat... madara... if he cant.... beat.... tobi......!
 

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He can't use Ma and Pa as far as I know because we haven't seen him try to merge since he he mastered Kurama. And last but not least Naruto does not know any sealing techs.
 
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