Naruto > EMS Madara - clarification

Naruto stronger than EMS Madara?


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youngdolce

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Edo madara should and could win. The kyuubi is his biatch. But because of plot, naruto would win, i guess.
 

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Naruto would win this medium difficulty, how anyone could think otherwise is beyond me. I think Naruto vs Current Madara would be a closer fight.
 

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This is NOT EDO Madara, this is ems Madara with his normal chakra and no rennigan since he didn't unlock it until he was almost dead(basically)
I would say both have a shot, but it's a matter of who gets the upper hand first....
 

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ems madara<naruto
current endo>=naruto
naruto has bm which is better than ems.
only ps can stand up 2 bm(madara said it)
+ he has sm
naruto combines bm with sm game over
and back then madara didn't have wood style, rinnegan, or endo.
 
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yes EMS madara will lose to Naruto in Bijuu mode. An EMS madara would not have the power to fight naruto at that stage. Naruto has speed that comes close to s/t techs destructive techs like TBB. An army of clones from regular to Kyuubi mode. Hell Naruto almost wrecked madara with sage mode. The only thing that saved him were the rinnengan techs. Now im not saying with sage mode naruto would win but he could give an EMS madara a run for his money. Now with Bijuu mode it becomes no contest.

People confuse EMS madara with edo madara. The only reason he can do the things he has done is
1. He has Unlimited chakara as an edo
2.He is immortal as an edo
3. He stole the wood techs of 1st hokage
4. Rinnegan

take those away he is just a lil stronger than sasuke and at this point we all know naruto can tank sasuke and anybody who doesn't think so is either a troll or doesn't understand the limits of EMS.

Those who think Madara can just take the kurama from naruto and control him please use your logic. If that were possible tobi who can do the exact same thing with a 3 tomoe sharingan had to extract the kyuubi from out of kushina to control it. Or you can think about it like this if it were possible to just take kurama why would tobi fight Naruto like this and waste massive amounts of chakara and time.

Now take a look of known EMS techs Vs Naruto in Bijuu mode
1. Amatersu < Bijuu mode speed
2. Tuskoyumi < Perfect Jinn
3. Sussano PM < Bijuu mode TBB
4. EMS Madara finite energy < Naruto BM Naruto's + Kurama's (practically infinite)

Okay sorry for the rambling and spelling mistakes i dnt commit much on NB since im pretty new but some of this stuff is just ridiculous. People either don't understand the power of EMS and Bijuu mode naruto or are just Madara **** riders.
 
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Just hope that people are not under the impression that EMS Madara could beat current Naruto, who would overwhelm him with KM clones, SM clones and BM. I saw some people saying otherwise a few days ago. Even Perfect Susanoo is not enough for Madara to overcome Naruto, who can destroy him with a perfect TBB, or even destroy him before Susanoo comes out with Rasen-Shurikens and mini TBB (with his speed). He could also have Ma and Pa use frog song; Naruto has too much for Madara.

Rinnegan :flaw:
 

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naruto is the better choice and the winner. people are just over powering madara and someone said tsunade cant defeat madara so how can naruto?? pls open ur eyes even tenten can defeat tsunade....... ems madara stands no chance but edo madara could be a match but we all know naruto has a super winning jutsu plot so he can defeat even so6p with it............
 

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No, just no. Madara low diff.

What???? Are you mental??? Well it's either that or tour reading a different manga. Naruto has been fighting since like forever. And he still has a bunch of stamina and chakra. He has kage level clones. He can start of fightning in sagemode for 5 min then when it runs out, he can fight in km for like as long as he wants and don't forget he still has BM and for more than five min cause in the last chapter he turned into BM mode again. Naruo will rape the shit out of ems madara
 

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Madara awakened his Rinnegan before he "died", so Naruto gets stomped, all his super flashy mega jutsus get absorbed, even his cloak will get absorbed since that is a manifestation of chakra. Madara can Tsukuyomi Naruto for a split second(regardless of the Kyuubi waking him up) then burn him with Amaterasu in an instant. Don't underestimate the Uchiha with that Main character bullshit.
 

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Madara awakened his Rinnegan before he "died", so Naruto gets stomped, all his super flashy mega jutsus get absorbed, even his cloak will get absorbed since that is a manifestation of chakra. Madara can Tsukuyomi Naruto for a split second(regardless of the Kyuubi waking him up) then burn him with Amaterasu in an instant. Don't underestimate the Uchiha with that Main character bullshit.

Even though he awoke the Rinnegan before he died, does not negate the fact that the thread and topic is based around EMS Madara. I've also yet to see any Amaterasu be used in a split second or Tsukuyomi. Every time I've seen it the user (whether Sasuke or Itachi) closes their eye a moment before using the ability. Since the discussion is based around an EMS Madara, he wouldn't be able to absorb away all of Naruto's attacks, and have no way to negate his speed. I feel like the question and what I'm trying to decide on is whether or not Madara can land a hit or incapacitate Naruto before bad things happen to him.
 

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are u serious emss madara would destroy naruto and that with out perfect sussonno . BECAUSE THAT A RINNE TECK .also madara nad harishima were neck and neck in power. yes he lost but still. and kabuto stated that harishima was like a mith or sumthing like that.
 

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Even though he awoke the Rinnegan before he died, does not negate the fact that the thread and topic is based around EMS Madara. I've also yet to see any Amaterasu be used in a split second or Tsukuyomi. Every time I've seen it the user (whether Sasuke or Itachi) closes their eye a moment before using the ability. Since the discussion is based around an EMS Madara, he wouldn't be able to absorb away all of Naruto's attacks, and have no way to negate his speed. I feel like the question and what I'm trying to decide on is whether or not Madara can land a hit or incapacitate Naruto before bad things happen to him.


Madara can disrupt the bond between Naruto & the Kyuubi like he did when he tried to summon him, then use a regular MS genjutsu, sasuke used it on killer bee even though he is a PERFECT jinchurikii, (so most peoples theories about him not being able to succumb to a genjutsu are null in void) but Sasuke isn't Madara, madara will deliver the finishing blow in correspondence to using the genjutsu, effortlessly. Remember EMS doesn't strain his chakra so Naruto is served for Brunch by Madara with or without the Rinnegan that he awakened. No amount of, "but he is the main character!" bullshit will save naruto
 

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you sir are a good man ..rep+
 

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Madara can disrupt the bond between Naruto & the Kyuubi like he did when he tried to summon him, then use a regular MS genjutsu, sasuke used it on killer bee even though he is a PERFECT jinchurikii, (so most peoples theories about him not being able to succumb to a genjutsu are null in void) but Sasuke isn't Madara, madara will deliver the finishing blow in correspondence to using the genjutsu, effortlessly. Remember EMS doesn't strain his chakra so Naruto is served for Brunch by Madara with or without the Rinnegan that he awakened. No amount of, "but he is the main character!" bullshit will save naruto

But right after Madara tried to do that, Kumara got pissed and gave Naruto a bunch of chakra to fight back with. I don't think Naruto would be immune to a Genjutsu, but I do believe it'll be broken quite quickly with Kumara and Naruto in harmony at this point. I doubt that EMS Madara would be able to keep up with the speed of Naruto, and would just piss off Kumara again if he tried to disrupt the bonded chakra they have. Though whether Madara gets off a genjustsu and finishes Naruto before Kumara can disrupt the chakra flow is not out of question. Could probably go either way considering this. I'm not sure Madara can genjustsu Naruto that easily though considering just how fast Naruto has become.
 

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...Are there any smart un biased Naruto people out here? Some silly Naruto fan boy.. again.

Ok so basically it is safe to say That Madara isnt just Madara. It is the 1st Hokage+Pain+Madara vs. Naruto+Kyuubi+Sage.. Stop riding Naruto's ninja **** and be real. He is very very strong but Madara is not to be recokened with at all! And you want to flame the TBB??? Well what about those two instant meteors madara sent down on Oonoki's weak tail? He also has clones too. Plus what makes you think Madara will stand around and let himself be hit lol? Naruto wil have to work for those hits. Done. I voted I don't now by the way.
 

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Naruto Current BM > EMS Madara.
Rinnegan Madara > Naruto Current BM.

in future Naruto will get Perfect BM link with kurama then
Naruto Perfect BM link > Rinnegan Madara.

if you are talking about Current all out fight then RG Madara beats Naruto High Diff. but if Naruto Manages to get Perfect link of BM with Kurama then its going to be
Naruto >>> RG Madara.

is it hard to understand ?
 
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