Naruto > EMS Madara - clarification

[SubZero89]

It's hard to say really... I would give it to EMS Madara very high difficulty.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

It's hard to say really... I would give it to EMS Madara very high difficulty.

How so?

 

[AmaniPaz]

You do know that he can control the Kyuubi, right?

 

[Gatsuuga]

Yes.

I thought so, then my original post still stands. Speaking of, seems I don't need to demonstrate my point earlier that people won't get the difference between Edo and non-Edo versions of Madara xd half of the posts so far did it for me.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

You do know that he can control the Kyuubi, right?

Not in this scenario he can't. And how can he do that when Naruto is in perfect harmony with his beast?

 

[TouchMyMangos]

I thought so, then my original post still stands. Speaking of, seems I don't need to demonstrate my point earlier that people won't get the difference between Edo and non-Edo versions of Madara xd half of the posts so far did it for me.

lol true.

 

[SubZero89]

How so?

Well mainly because of perfect Susanoo, it is as big as a mountain so i believe it can tank Flash Bijuudama, while it's attacks are devastating and he can easily spam them.

I don't believe Madara controlling the Kyuubi is a factor here, Naruto and Kyuubi work in unity now they can snap each other out of genjutsu and their chakras are now molded/combined it's one thing to control just Kurama and his chakra alone but it's another thing to control 2 different charkas bound together.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

He would own EMS Madara purely because of BM Mode and SM clones would be to much Edo Madara would destroy him

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Well mainly because of perfect Susanoo, it is as big as a mountain so i believe it can tank Flash Bijuudama, while it's attacks are devastating and he can easily spam them.

I don't believe Madara controlling the Kyuubi is a factor here, Naruto and Kyuubi work in unity now they can snap each other out of genjutsu and their chakras are now molded/combined it's one thing to control just Kurama and his chakra alone but it's another thing to control 2 different charkas bound together.

It's not tanking a full TBB explosion from a fresh Naruto (current Naruto been fighting for days).

 

[TheSages456]

ems madara>naruto

both can change the landscape but madara can get them off more effectively than naruto. perfect susanos normal means of attacking rewrites maps but naruto can only do this with tbb which needs to be charged. perfect susano can easily strike in the time it takes naruto to charge a tbb. also perfect susanos durability has not been tested so its unknown whether it could tank tbb.

 

[genii96]

Ems madara handles bm naruto easily. He can easily supress kurama,his perfect susanoo can swing a blade much fasyer than a tbb can be made,unless bm naruto has the durability of multiple mountains,he is finished, dust release didnt scratch ps,a tbb will be sliced in half by those swords or just be tanked ny the susanoo bm naruto can't touch ems madara.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

ems madara>naruto

both can change the landscape but madara can get them off more effectively than naruto. perfect susanos normal means of attacking rewrites maps but naruto can only do this with tbb which needs to be charged. perfect susano can easily strike in the time it takes naruto to charge a tbb. also perfect susanos durability has not been tested so its unknown whether it could tank tbb.

Shockwaves aren't enough to defeat BM Naruto.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Madara>naruto now GTFO

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Ems madara handles bm naruto easily. He can easily supress kurama,his perfect susanoo can swing a blade much fasyer than a tbb can be made,unless bm naruto has the durability of multiple mountains,he is finished, dust release didnt scratch ps,a tbb will be sliced in half by those swords or just be tanked ny the susanoo bm naruto can't touch ems madara.

Suppress it how? You pulling this out your ass?

 

[Midday]

Naruto is overestimated. Did Naruto use his bunch of clones against Nagato? Did he use them against Tobi at the beginning? When did he used them in an actual fight? The clones would just drain his Chakra. And one swing of Susanoos sword would destroy them. By using his perfect tailed beast bomb, he is a perfect target for Amaterasu while forming it in his huge Chakra cloak. And if Tobi could simply dodge Narutos mini Bijudama, why not Madara? You don't have to overestimate Naruto so much.

Obviously Naruto's clones would be taken into consideration, it doesn't matter if he hasnt used them much against Tobi for example. I don't know why chakra is a problem for him since he has a large amount normally and access to the kyuubi's he probably has the most chakra available to him in the series. The real question is how long Madara can maintain ps. I don't see Amaterasu or ps swing hitting naruto with his speed either. Didn't Tobi let the mini tbb pass through him, not sure but Madara isn't Tobi and would have to deal with a lot more KVM clones as well as sm clones.

 

[jhunereyes]

@ the current manga state.... nope naruto ALONE will not be able to defeat EMS Madara.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

EMS Madara > Naruto. very high diff.

 

[SubZero89]

It's not tanking a full TBB explosion from a fresh Naruto (current Naruto been fighting for days).

We don't know how powerful Narutos Flash Bijuudama would be if he was fresh, we don't know if it could increase in power at all, it's just speculation.

 

[OnPoint]

No, just no. Madara low diff.

Such ignorant buffoonery.

With regards to the thread, it's clear that Naruto would best EMS Madara. Edo Madara is, of course, an unrealistic target though the man Shodai defeated would get slapped in this scenario, mid - high difficulty. If details are needed then they will be presented.

 

[Midday]

We don't know how powerful Narutos Flash Bijuudama would be if he was fresh, we don't know if it could increase in power at all, it's just speculation.

Either way a regular one >= 5 tbb