Naruto dosen't have a base mode

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Sasuke and Naruto both receive Ridikou chakra form Hagoromo. Sasuke receive power for his eyes and Naruto for the body, the only difference is Sasuke upgrade can be seen through his rinnengan and Naruto's can't been seen through his body..

Naruto so called 'base mode' still has half of Rikuudo chakra flowing through it at all times, just like Sasuke, it's not something you can turn off. Naruto can just add different modes in with his Rikuudo chakra because of the different modes he attained.

Naruto can not deactivate Rikudou's chakra so he has no base mode.
 

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OT; Well your half right, while Naruto was enhanced by Rikudou, he still has a Base Mode. Sasuke doesn't have "forms" to activate to increase himself, Naruto does. Naruto has transformations and uses the Kyuubi's power to improve his physical capabilities. Therefore Naruto does have a base, even if it is Rikuou enhanced or not.

Reason why Sasuke doesn't have a base is because he constantly has his Rinnegan activated, his strongest Dojutsu. Sasuke doesn't upgrade his power, he loses it by using his S/T which temporarily deactivates his EMS over a period of time. Without using that S/T there's no possible way for Sasuke to decrease or to increase his power unless he takes in Bijuu Chakra in the same method in VoTe2.
 

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That explains why boruto's rasengan was so damn powerful.
 

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There is not such thing as "base mode".
 

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I'm surprised you actually made a good thread. How is it you came to this conclusion but think Naruto lost RSM? :bdpf:
 

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OT; Well your half right, while Naruto was enhanced by Rikudou, he still has a Base Mode. Sasuke doesn't have "forms" to activate to increase himself, Naruto does. Naruto has transformations and uses the Kyuubi's power to improve his physical capabilities. Therefore Naruto does have a base, even if it is Rikuou enhanced or not.

Reason why Sasuke doesn't have a base is because he constantly has his Rinnegan activated, his strongest Dojutsu. Sasuke doesn't upgrade his power, he loses it by using his S/T which temporarily deactivates his EMS over a period of time. Without using that S/T there's no possible way for Sasuke to decrease or to increase his power unless he takes in Bijuu Chakra in the same method in VoTe2.
That's still no 'base' form.. If Naruto has a power that enhances him over his normal body capacity, it's not base... It's just his lowest form.. That's like saying if goku base was SSJ1, but can go higher but not lower.. That doesn't make SSJ1 his base, just his lowest form.
 

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I'm surprised you actually made a good thread. How is it you came to this conclusion but think Naruto lost RSM? :bdpf:

Lol I d think Naruto lost RSM. That's not the same as losing bijuu chakra
 

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You can't not have a base level of power...

Nothing about Naruto has physically changed with receiving Hago's chakra. He's not constantly and unconsciously emitting Rikudo Sage energy wherever he goes. Because he is the 'body' of Hago's power, as opposed to Sasuke being the 'eyes', that just means that Naruto's base level of power is just higher than it was before he received the Rikudo Sage chakra. It doesn't mean he doesn't have a base.
 

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That's still no 'base' form.. If Naruto has a power that enhances him over his normal body capacity, it's not base... It's just his lowest form.. That's like saying if goku base was SSJ1, but can go higher but not lower.. That doesn't make SSJ1 his base, just his lowest form.
The reason why it's called Base Naruto is because there's enhancements to improve his body from his "base" level.
 

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You can't not have a base level of power...

Nothing about Naruto has physically changed with receiving Hago's chakra. He's not constantly and unconsciously emitting Rikudo Sage energy wherever he goes. Because he is the 'body' of Hago's power, as opposed to Sasuke being the 'eyes', that just means that Naruto's base level of power is just higher than it was before he received the Rikudo Sage chakra. It doesn't mean he doesn't have a base.
If a power up made is 'base form' higher then it's no longer a base form.. This power up allows Sasuke to bust meteors with chidori and allow Naruto to throw FRS without useing a mode.... That's not base.
 

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The reason why it's called Base Naruto is because there's enhancements to improve his body from his "base" level.

That's exactly what sage mode did.. Imporove his body from base level.
 

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Naruto has a base because he has a "default" stage, that ascends higher.
Meanwhile Sasuke doesn't have the option of "default," he's always at it's peak unless he uses
S/T. There's nothing else for him to toggle through, thus has no base.

Think of it like like switches, there's an "On" and there's an "Off"
if there isn't both, there isn't anything to switch through.

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That's exactly what sage mode did.. Imporove his body from base level.
Sage Mode isn't constantly on though. Like I said, you aren't wrong. I'm just stating that while Naruto's base mode is enhanced due to Rikudou chakra, he still has a "base", it's just Rikudou enhanced.

He has transformations to improve his body, and his physical capabilities. If Sasuke had chakra cloaks like Naruto, his Rinnegan would be counted as a his "base" because he can improve his body later on by activating those forms.

Makes sense?
 

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Sage Mode isn't constantly on though. Like I said, you aren't wrong. I'm just stating that while Naruto's base mode is enhanced due to Rikudou chakra, he still has a "base", it's just Rikudou enhanced.

He has transformations to improve his body, and his physical capabilities. If Sasuke had chakra cloaks like Naruto, his Rinnegan would be counted as a his "base" because he can improve his body later on by activating those forms.

Makes sense?

It makes sense.. I guess my question is since Sasuke doesn't have any modes to enhance his body, then his Rinnengan mode should be his base since he has nothing to go beyond that, not the other way around...
Unless When Sasuke deactivate his sharingan that would be counted as base?? It would not make a difference because his body doesn't get stronger with rinnengan activated or not..
 

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You're right. He has beast mode!
 

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It makes sense.. I guess my question is since Sasuke doesn't have any modes to enhance his body, then his Rinnengan mode should be his base since he has nothing to go beyond that, not the other way around...
Unless When Sasuke deactivate his sharingan that would be counted as base?? It would not make a difference because his body doesn't get stronger with rinnengan activated or not..
Well that's true, Rinnegan Sasuke is Base Sasuke. That's just his highest form.

Well even if Sasuke were to deactivate his Sharingan, he still has the Rinnegan activated, and their activation doesn't really come close to what the Rinnegan offers by itself. Sasuke only really lowers his powers when he uses things that tax him (I-E - Space/time portal).
 

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If a power up made is 'base form' higher then it's no longer a base form.. This power up allows Sasuke to bust meteors with chidori and allow Naruto to throw FRS without useing a mode.... That's not base.

If Sasuke can bust meteors without using any of his Sharingan/Rinnegan abilities, and if Naruto can use FRS without Sage Mode or Bijuu Chakra Mode, then yes, it is base. Base power is relative, not static. It's like leveling up.
 

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Well that's true, Rinnegan Sasuke is Base Sasuke. That's just his highest form.

Well even if Sasuke were to deactivate his Sharingan, he still has the Rinnegan activated, and their activation doesn't really come close to what the Rinnegan offers by itself. Sasuke only really lowers his powers when he uses things that tax him (I-E - Space/time portal).
Agreed. It's just makes sense to me if Naruto lowest form is considered His base that just so happens to be Sasuke highest form, which is not considered his base.. Either they're both base or both not base.
 
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