Naruto cant defeat 9 tails ?

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Dude read back the sentence I made
I only concurred that Pain said he was testing the fox, not that he was toying around with CT. Are you forgetting this factor?
You do realize that, in the way that you wrote your sentence, it seems that you are trying to say that Nagato was toying with him. In your initial statement you didn't add the rest of what Nagato said. You were arguing in favor of Nagato weren't you?
 

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You do realize that, in the way that you wrote your sentence, it seems that you are trying to say that Nagato was toying with him. In your initial statement you didn't add the rest of what Nagato said. You were arguing in favor of Nagato weren't you?
I'm saying Nagato could have easily defeated Naruto if not for plot and even in the end, wasn't truly defeated. Not saying anything else than that
 

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I'm saying Nagato could have easily defeated Naruto if not for plot and even in the end, wasn't truly defeated. Not saying anything else than that
I don't really see the point of blaming the plot. Naruto has Kurama, that's just a fact. It's not like Naruto went 8 tails without leading up to it. They had been saying his seal was getting weak during the entire second part. Nagato was looking to capture Naruto, that was his downfall. If it wasn't for the "plot" they wouldn't have fought in the first place.
 

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I don't really see the point of blaming the plot. Naruto has Kurama, that's just a fact. It's not like Naruto went 8 tails without leading up to it. They had been saying his seal was getting weak during the entire second part. Nagato was looking to capture Naruto, that was his downfall. If it wasn't for the "plot" they wouldn't have fought in the first place.
wtf? pain would've crushed Naruto way before that point if it weren't for plot

The intels: plot
Deva path neutralized: plot
Not killing him when Preta path cached him : plot
Ma having summoned so many people to help him fight : plot
Pain not killing Naruto when he was pinned down : plot
Hinata's intervention that led to the Kyubi's release : plot
 

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wtf? pain would've crushed Naruto way before that point if it weren't for plot

The intels: plot
Deva path neutralized: plot
Not killing him when Preta path cached him : plot
Ma having summoned so many people to help him fight : plot
Pain not killing Naruto when he was pinned down : plot
Hinata's intervention that led to the Kyubi's release : plot
Thanks to Jiraiya
His fault for using a giant ST
He was trying to capure, not kill
Strategy because Nagato is a beast
Again. trying to capture him
Protecting one of her own, crazy with love

Everything about Naruto is plot. Nagato wanting to capture all of the tailed beasts is plot. Nagato gaining Rinnegan is plot. One could argue that if the plot didn't give Nagato Rinnegan then he would be fodder, but you know what? He did. Everything in Naruto is plot. When you read a fictional work like this, you're supposed to see it as another world; a real thing happening. What is the point of blaming everything you don't like on plot? I don't like everything that happens in this series or any other fictional story I have read or seen, but I accept it as what happened.
 

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We are not looking story wise that's why I claiming plot
We are looking at which is stronger but people always bring that fight up
Just as I can easily bring the fight between Nagato vs KM Naruto&Bee where both got owned pretty easily, they were saved by Itachi.
I think everyone concurs that Naruto back then was weaker than he is now
 

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We are not looking story wise that's why I claiming plot
We are looking at which is stronger but people always bring that fight up
Just as I can easily bring the fight between Nagato vs KM Naruto&Bee where both got owned pretty easily, they were saved by Itachi.
I think everyone concurs that Naruto back then was weaker than he is now
Naruto is weaker than Nagato, but Kurama is stronger than Nagato. That is why Naruto survived that situation.
 

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do u mean that pien was just testing 9 tails and he can go much more
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no i didnt mean that.
wat am sayin s that pein was fightn 9tails bt teknicaly he was jst holdin his ground.

and when i said he was testin d 9tails power, he surely is(am not sayin pain is stronger than or on par wit kurama) bt most probably nagato's plan was to seal 9tails.

pain might not b as strong as kurama bt he can still test d power of d 9tails, 4 example, d 5kages and edo madara, edo madara is basically owning them bt stil they pushed him to use his powerful jutsu i.e perfect susanoo.

i hope i was clear.
 
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