Naruto before he got sm mode was Kage level

[Lana Del Taka]

Not even close. Even Sakura could wreck that fodder.

 

[Chaosmark101]

LOL. Those toads take a shit load of time to prepare and launch the sound genjutsu. The circumstances aren't always going to be so friendly to launch that genjutsu whenever they desire. Sasuke wrecks them before they could do anything. Maybe burn them by Amaterasu while they're busy focusing on the genjutsu, how's that? Genjutsu soloed and toads RIP.

Your confusing

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, which does require some prep time but is a one shot no less with

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, which is not a sound genjutsu. It's merely Powerful sound waves released by Ma & Pa together to paralyze annoy & distract as per DB4. And because of that

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If he can even move that is considering the Cerberus summons could not & were swiftly Odama Rasengan'd shortly after.
BTW, they literally have little to no prep time seeing as they were prepared on the

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. With Ma & Pa on his shoulders, they're protected from Amaterasu (SM Naruto has a few options to counter Amaterasu) & Ma & Pa are Sages. They don't need their eyes open which is a fact. So they wouldn't be sharingan genjutsu'd

And since Sasuke doesn't get paralyzed by that stupid genjutsu, he can easily use Susanoo to tank Rasenshuriken.

Already addressed above. Frog Call =/ Gama Rinsho. Susanoo isn't tanking FRS.

As a bonus to your argument (on top of everything I mentioned in my previous post), Sasuke will use MS Genjutsu against SM Naruto, and Naruto is pretty much f***ed up... He doesn't have Kurama to pull him out of it. And he can't negate it on his own. Please do inform me if SM Naruto has any way of escaping Sasuke's genjutsu once fallen victim (yes, he can fight without making eye contact for the most part due to SM sensing, but he can't completely avoid it, because he can't pull out an entire fight without a single eye contact. He WILL definitely make atleast one eye contact even if it's unintended).

SM Naruto is a Perfect Sage and one of the best sensors in the manga. Upon returning to the leaf

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. This means any & all times in the fight Naruto will know Where Sasuke's exact location is due to sensing. Along with he can "see"

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. As seen in here in the pitch black darkness of Gamabuntas mouth Naruto was able to land a

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. Further showcasing he won't be falling prey to visual genjutsu.

Logically assuming, that wasn't the full armored Susanoo. It must've been a skeletal version, or if I'm generous in assumption, the humanoid form, but no way the completed armored version, since Itachi can't create a full Susanoo in 1/1000th of a second, logically. And Itachi wasn't harmed a bit, although the Susanoo was completely obliterated. If it was the full armored Susanoo, it'd have tanked Kirin, albeit with significant damage. Rasenshuriken (weaker than Kirin) could only destroy the armor to the max. No big deal tanking it... But since I'm very generous in assumption, I'll consider that Rasenshuriken destroys most of the Susanoo down to the skeleton (which it can't but I'm just assuming it does). Even then, Sasuke will recreate the Susanoo after effectively negating it.

It was complete Susanoo, not Final/armored as Itachi's Final Susanoo holds both Yata & Totsuka.

& Again Obliterating the whole thing >>> A big whole in the back of Susanoo so yes it can be V3.

You have very limited observation skills. Danzo's Fuuton wasn't the only thing that ripped the Susanoo open. In fact, it couldn't have done shit to the Susanoo if used solely. Danzo's Fuuton was aided and its effect was increased by the Baku's incredible suction power. Baku's powerful suction and Danzo's Fuuton combined were able to SLIGHTLY rip open the Susanoo. And there combined attacks were only able to slightly rip the Susanoo open because Sasuke was incredibly weakened and was struggling to maintain control of his MS due to which Susanoo couldn't be effectively maintained. If Sasuke wasn't that weakened and had perfect control over his MS, even there combined attacks would have no effect. Not to mention this isn't even the full armored Susanoo we're talking about.

And here's where the insults come in.

1.Yes Danzo's

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. Otherwise Baku's suction would have ripped a whole from the front, & it'd be impossible for this

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to appear on Susanoo's back. Stupid logic.
2. As if Baku's suction tremendously aided it, when it didn't even tremendously enhance Sasukes Fireball which Katon canonically is boosted by futon.

Also if your trying to imply Danzo's baku enhanced futon is > a Senpo version of the strongest wind technique in the manga. & you say I have limited observation skills? Lmao that's a joke.

Sasukes featless V4 that he never got to use btw. I'm sure is gonna do him tremendous help when even after getting EMS he never uses it. Next.

Nice try, but this is general taijutsu and minor attacks I'm talking about, there is always the Susanoo for bigger and more powerful attacks.

You were saying he'd use an Ama shield to keep Naruto at a distance. I showed you how Naruto blows it away. Where did Susanoo come from?

 

[Styles]

No Naruto wasn't Kage level without SM.

 

[take it easy]

Without Kyuubi he wasn't on kage level.

 

[sasuke213]

Name a Kage he would beat. I'll wait.

mei low/mid diff and gaara high diff

 

[sasuke213]

Kakashi didn't have a Sharingan when he was Kage.. And Gaara isn't weak, he kept Shikaku's abilities and Sand happens to be one of the best defences against Amaterasu. After Sasuke and Naruto he has the best absolute defence.

Danzo gets rekt by a Naruto clone mid diff. Orochimaru was weak in part 1, but then again he never stops gaining knowledge so he would probably be capable of fighting BSM Naruto since he has a Zetsu body.

gaara defense is no where close to prime kakashi , naruto , sasuke , killer bee and 3rd raikage . Gaara sand is formidable but if he faced mid/high diff kages they could all probably find away to defeat him . Gaara is vastly overrated and hails from the weakest village

 

[irishboy9780]

He was kage level when he soloed kakazu.

 

[Merkel]

Naruto is Low-Mid Jonin level at best. Even with Kyuubi.

Naruto and Kakashi vs Deidara doesn't count because 1, he had support from a high jonin-low kage level shinobi and 2, Deidara was retreating because he was low on detonation clay after his fight with Gaara.
- The Fourth Raikage would chop his head off before he could even react.
- Naruto has nothing impressive enough to kill Tsunade with Byakugou + Tsunade beats him in leaps and bounds in strength and even tops him in speed.
- Kazekage wrecks him lets be honest he hadn't really changed much since Gaara vs Naruto Part 1 but Gaara had improved alot.
- Oonoki can fly for one thing and for another the gap of experience, knowledge and even just plain battle power is insurmountable, if Naruto tanks one single particle style tech in any form he's gone...

With SM he is Mid-High Kage IMO, taking into account what he achieved with it.

 

[super yang]

naruto has been at least low kage level since he beat gaara & shukaku.

the denial & ignorant apologetics ITT are quite amusing

and btw, sage mode instantly made him HIGH kage level

 

[BenjerminGaye]

mei low/mid diff and gaara high diff

Lol. He beats neither kage

 

[Fockboy]

Lol. He beats neither kage

naruto doesn't take out gaara? go back to part 1. anyways FRS takes out mei. it took out kakuzu, you know the one who beat kakuzu and hidan arc kakashi

 

[BenjerminGaye]

naruto doesn't take out gaara? go back to part 1. anyways FRS takes out mei. it took out kakuzu, you know the one who beat kakuzu and hidan arc kakashi

How does naruto even touch garra when none of his attacks can get past garra's sand and he lacks ranged Attacks to hit him when he's in the air?


Lmfao. Garra curbstomps early naruto.


Mei does the same. Naruto can't see through hidden mist and she can easily turn it to acid mist without his knowing.

 

[take it easy]

Naruto is Low-Mid Jonin level at best. Even with Kyuubi.

Naruto and Kakashi vs Deidara doesn't count because 1, he had support from a high jonin-low kage level shinobi and 2, Deidara was retreating because he was low on detonation clay after his fight with Gaara.
- The Fourth Raikage would chop his head off before he could even react.
- Naruto has nothing impressive enough to kill Tsunade with Byakugou + Tsunade beats him in leaps and bounds in strength and even tops him in speed.
- Kazekage wrecks him lets be honest he hadn't really changed much since Gaara vs Naruto Part 1 but Gaara had improved alot.
- Oonoki can fly for one thing and for another the gap of experience, knowledge and even just plain battle power is insurmountable, if Naruto tanks one single particle style tech in any form he's gone...

With SM he is Mid-High Kage IMO, taking into account what he achieved with it.

Says that 3-tails Naruto can't beat Mei and Tsunade.:lol

 

[Fockboy]

How does naruto even touch garra when none of his attacks can get past garra's sand and he lacks ranged Attacks to hit him when he's in the air?


Lmfao. Garra curbstomps early naruto.



Mei does the same. Naruto can't see through hidden mist and she can easily turn it to acid mist without his knowing.

I'll give mei that..maybe if she can keep the mist up long enough. neither early gaara or mei is taking a version 2 TBB.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I'll give mei that..maybe if she can keep the mist up long enough. neither early gaara or mei is taking a version 2 TBB.

Neither garra or mei has to take it. Unlike oro they both know what a tailed beast bomb is and how it functions. Taking the steps to get out of the way is rather easy.

 

[shelke]

Futon blows away Kagatsuchi? Stupidest thing I read today. Naruto before SM is Mid Chunin at most. Kage level; what a joke.

 

[King Of Pop]

Sasukes featless V4 that he never got to use btw. I'm sure is gonna do him tremendous help when even after getting EMS he never uses it. Next.

so he didnt use it means it wont help him? what kind of logic is that

OT. nice joke, he was nowhere near kage lv befor sm

 

[Fockboy]

Futon blows away Kagatsuchi? Stupidest thing I read today. Naruto before SM is Mid Chunin at most. Kage level; what a joke.

he beat kakuzu someone kakashi couldn't beat. stop trying to downplay characters you ***

 

[shelke]

he beat kakuzu someone kakashi couldn't beat. stop trying to downplay characters you ***

Oh boy, another Naruto fan. You guys are like these new genital warts. They pop up, but never go away.

 

[Fockboy]

Oh boy, another Naruto fan. You guys are like these new genital warts. They pop up, but never go away.

n*gga sasuke fans are ****ing cancer. they all band together then report and snitch on n*ggas b