Naruto & Bee vs the Five Kage

The Jinchuriki or the Five Kage?


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itachi1000

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Some people say that Bijuu Naruto can't solo the Five Kage, but what if he teamed up with Bee, it would probably be a different story.

What do you guys think? Who would win and why?
 

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Naruto and Bee stomps.
Naruto has good chances to solo them. Adding Bee is overkill.
 

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the 5 kage pushed madara more and gave us more insight on his abilities. thats all im saying.
 
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i don't think naruto can solo the kage they'd beat him high diff but killer bee and naruto would definitely beat the 5 kage.
 

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I dont think Naruto could solo However Team B would win, givng the fact hes faster than everyone on Team Kages AND has a better chance of wiping out tsunade than bee does since they are both durable (senju/uzumaki) Onnki would be troublesome but gaaras defence would render useless to naruto in KM
 

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i think naruto and bee would have there hands full i mean all the kages people think about it...it would be to much only Lord Madara can survive them Uchiha INza
 

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the 5 kage pushed madara more and gave us more insight on his abilities. thats all im saying.

Realistically Madara never had to get pushed to PS. After it got deactivated he seemingly simultaneously kicked their asses with some Mokuton and some weapons. I think the battle was more Madara just testing out his abilities, until the end where he admittedly had to use it, but because he was watching his clones do work, and not really doing much.

It's hard to explain, but I see it as Madara was testing his moves out against the Kages without being serious at all, and he took the fall for it because of that, and was forced to use PS, not because the Kages were strong enough to beat everything else he had, but because he was messing around too much. That's why he was able to handily hand their asses to them without it later. But against Naruto, I see it as Madara legitimately getting serious, and that in the end he would have to use PS to finish Naruto off because he'd keep avoiding/destroying whatever Madara would use. Hard to explain, but that's basically what I'm saying.
 

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Realistically Madara never had to get pushed to PS. After it got deactivated he seemingly simultaneously kicked their asses with some Mokuton and some weapons. I think the battle was more Madara just testing out his abilities, until the end where he admittedly had to use it, but because he was watching his clones do work, and not really doing much.

It's hard to explain, but I see it as Madara was testing his moves out against the Kages without being serious at all, and he took the fall for it because of that, and was forced to use PS, not because the Kages were strong enough to beat everything else he had, but because he was messing around too much. That's why he was able to handily hand their asses to them without it later. But against Naruto, I see it as Madara legitimately getting serious, and that in the end he would have to use PS to finish Naruto off because he'd keep avoiding/destroying whatever Madara would use. Hard to explain, but that's basically what I'm saying.

so you are saying that madara was toying with the kages while using his kill moves?

madara netted a similar performance in naruto and bee & the kage fight. how fast was team naruto pushed into a corner after madara got serious? how long did the kages last comparatively? madara wasted gai and bee within minutes, only naruto was left. madara was sitting on a rock relaxing. he wasnt anywhere near tryharding against them.

madara had at least some killing intent against the kages as he wanted tsunade dead due to being related to hashirama.
 

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Naruto solos high diff. With bee they win mid diff.
 

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Naruto can solo without much sense of effort. there is almost no disputing this. Anyone that does is insane
 

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That would be a good fight, but I'd say Kages would win.
 

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so you are saying that madara was toying with the kages while using his kill moves?

Well, at the very least, I wouldn't consider one Jukai Koutan and a Flower World serious attempts to kill 5 Kage-level ninjas. To me it seemed more like he was testing them out and toying around. If he wanted them dead he would have followed up with his Flower World after using it instead of letting all of the Kages get back up.

madara netted a similar performance in naruto and bee & the kage fight. how fast was team naruto pushed into a corner after madara got serious? how long did the kages last comparatively? madara wasted gai and bee within minutes, only naruto was left. madara was sitting on a rock relaxing. he wasnt anywhere near tryharding against them.

Madara only got serious once he used Perfect Susanoo. Everything else was him toying around, like how he just watched his clones battle it out from afar while standing on a rock, and like how he allowed the Kages to get back up after his Flower World. And Naruto's team wasn't really pushed into a corner. Madara got Bee, Guy, and Naruto restrained, but Naruto escaped and intercepted Madara and Obito before both of them could do anything. Madara was sitting on a rock relaxing against the Kage's too, for the most part.

madara had at least some killing intent against the kages as he wanted tsunade dead due to being related to hashirama.

He also had a serious intent against Naruto, but he failed to capture him. The second Madara decided to pull out the best tech to use against the Kage (PS), he basically demolished them. The Dragon was supposed to bind and restrain Naruto, but Naruto just escaped and could have reformed the cloak if necessary.
 

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Well, at the very least, I wouldn't consider one Jukai Koutan and a Flower World serious attempts to kill 5 Kage-level ninjas. To me it seemed more like he was testing them out and toying around. If he wanted them dead he would have followed up with his Flower World after using it instead of letting all of the Kages get back up.



Madara only got serious once he used Perfect Susanoo. Everything else was him toying around, like how he just watched his clones battle it out from afar while standing on a rock, and like how he allowed the Kages to get back up after his Flower World. And Naruto's team wasn't really pushed into a corner. Madara got Bee, Guy, and Naruto restrained, but Naruto escaped and intercepted Madara and Obito before both of them could do anything. Madara was sitting on a rock relaxing against the Kage's too, for the most part.



He also had a serious intent against Naruto, but he failed to capture him. The second Madara decided to pull out the best tech to use against the Kage (PS), he basically demolished them. The Dragon was supposed to bind and restrain Naruto, but Naruto just escaped and could have reformed the cloak if necessary.

madara didnt want to kill naruto and bee. he wanted to capture them. its pretty much the same restriction of madara not tryharding to kill the kages until late in the fight. he was restricting his power in both instances. madara tried humiliating the kages by beating them without using full power. i wouldnt exactly call having a bunch of susano clones almost succeeding in killing Ay not attempting to kill the kages.

madara was more serious against narutos team but he wasnt using any kill moves like he used against the kages because he had to capture them not kill them. its more like naruto got the chakra cloak ripped from him then he intercepted madara and obito afterwards. naruto wasnt attached to the wood dragon. narutos BM cloak is purely chakra. if the cloak is removed then naruto can move normally.

madara is serious against narutos team but is using weaker techs. he was less serious against the kages but used stronger techs. PS is on a drastically higher scale than the wood dragon.
 

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madara didnt want to kill naruto and bee. he wanted to capture them. its pretty much the same restriction of madara not tryharding to kill the kages until late in the fight. he was restricting his power in both instances. madara tried humiliating the kages by beating them without using full power. i wouldnt exactly call having a bunch of susano clones almost succeeding in killing Ay not attempting to kill the kages.

He didn't want to kill them, but he obviously planned on damaging them to the point where they'd be captured quite easily, meaning a bloody, dazed mess like we saw him do to Guy. It's not the same as his situation with the Kages, where when he did succeed in knocking basically all of them out (Flower World), he decided to wait and let them get up. On the other hand, if he had managed to put Naruto down in a similar fashion, I have no doubt he come in and swoop him up.

Those Susanoo clones were a small attempt to kill the Kages, but Naruto (and I guess Bee along with him) would have demolished those clones with either a single TBB, continuous TBB, or a roar.

madara was more serious against narutos team but he wasnt using any kill moves like he used against the kages because he had to capture them not kill them. its more like naruto got the chakra cloak ripped from him then he intercepted madara and obito afterwards. naruto wasnt attached to the wood dragon. narutos BM cloak is purely chakra. if the cloak is removed then naruto can move normally.

Partially agreed with the bold. I disagree with the fact that Madara was trying to kill the Kages at all until he brought out his PS, or maybe where he used his Mokuton clones. They were more like halfhearted efforts to put them down, as he later acknowledged that they were worthy of the Kage clones, and so he'd go all out to finish them. If he used the Dragon like he used it against Naruto, it's arguable as to whether he'd finish them or not (he must have used something other then PS to finish them off-panel), but it didn't manage to finish Naruto off either.

He didn't necessarily get the entire cloak ripped from him. Just the Kurama-extension, which can be reformed in a matter of seconds. And yeah, the fact that his cloak is pure chakra is an advantage, and it basically allowed him to counter Madara's Mokuton Dragon without taking any damage that the original Kurama would have.



madara is serious against narutos team but is using weaker techs. he was less serious against the kages but used stronger techs. PS is on a drastically higher scale than the wood dragon.

I'd say the Wood Dragon is more or less on the level of Flower World and the other techs. Flower World did fail to put the Kages down for good (though Madara didn't go in for the finisher), and there's something else Madara must have used to finish them off off-panel. Maybe something similar in strength to the Wood Dragon, which I bet the Kages would have a lot of trouble putting down, if putting it down at all.

Yeah, I agree with PS being on a higher scale power wise, but it's actual effect on Naruto is different, so it's hard to compare how Naruto would fair against PS by basing it off of his performance against the Dragon. It's possible at this point that Naruto's BM might be able to match up against it, considering the fact that he only lost the tips of a few tails after taking a mountain range-busting attack head on.

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But back to the original topic, I say Naruto and Bee can take this quite comfortably. Naruto took on Juubi's laser head-on and basically took no damage at all, so I doubt that Jinton, even with it's atomizing properties, would really achieve much, considering it also didn't do anything to PS either. That means it can't destroy everything just because of its properties, and that it has a limit. And I think it's safe to say something that tanked Juubi's laser can also tank Onoki's Jinton. So Onoki can't really aid much other than aiming for Bee (who also might be able to take Jinton a little, considering he tanked his own TBB, something that has destructive power comparable to PS) and lightening the other Kage.

Mei's almost a non-factor here, as her lava can't harm Naruto at all, nor Bee assuming he's not staying in BM, and assuming he's on his toes. She can probably get killed quite easily by a TBB-barrage or something, along with Tsunade possibly. If she decides to use her hidden mist technique, she'd end up blinding her own allies too. So that's taken out. Her poison mist would also harm her comrades, so it can't be used.

Tsunade can't achieve much either. If Bee's TBB couldn't harm him, and if Juubi's laser couldn't harm Naruto, I'm thinking her punches won't really do shit to their durable bodies. She'd just get killed in the crossfire eventually, probably by a TBB or something. At best she might be able to lift a lightened Bee (by A), but Naruto would just grab her with one of his tails and suffocate her or something. If Bijuu can't break his tails' grip, I doubt Tsunade can.

A also is at loss here. His stronger father couldn't beat Bee, and A being faster than his dad won't mean much. Naruto's faster, stronger, and more durable. Bee's stronger and more durable. A whirlwind can blow A along with the other Kage away, and leave them open to continuous TBB barrages. This also accounts for Gaara, really. His sand wont be able to restrain beings as powerful as Kurama and Gyuuki.
 

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He didn't want to kill them, but he obviously planned on damaging them to the point where they'd be captured quite easily, meaning a bloody, dazed mess like we saw him do to Guy. It's not the same as his situation with the Kages, where when he did succeed in knocking basically all of them out (Flower World), he decided to wait and let them get up. On the other hand, if he had managed to put Naruto down in a similar fashion, I have no doubt he come in and swoop him up.
yes he wouldve captured naruto if he knocked him down. the arsenal that he used against team naruto still wasnt as diverse as it was against the kages. he was toying with the kages but they still had to beat those higher scale techniques. there isnt any possible to hold back with moves like the flower world. the kages wouldve been crushed by trees if they didnt move. madara not following up can be seen as holding back.
Those Susanoo clones were a small attempt to kill the Kages, but Naruto (and I guess Bee along with him) would have demolished those clones with either a single TBB, continuous TBB, or a roar.
sure if the susano clones stood in a straight line and did nothing. tbb and roar(which is overwanked) can only be aimed in one direction. susano clones would surround them in a circle just like against the kages. madaras v2 susano without legs was portrayed as being able to hurt hachibi. saying he doesnt get demolished by 25 v3 susano clones is really pushing it beyond bees canon capabilities
Partially agreed with the bold. I disagree with the fact that Madara was trying to kill the Kages at all until he brought out his PS, or maybe where he used his Mokuton clones. They were more like halfhearted efforts to put them down, as he later acknowledged that they were worthy of the Kage clones, and so he'd go all out to finish them. If he used the Dragon like he used it against Naruto, it's arguable as to whether he'd finish them or not (he must have used something other then PS to finish them off-panel), but it didn't manage to finish Naruto off either.
he wasnt serious against the kages all the time. he was trying to kill them though. he impaled tsunade with susanos sword. if that isnt a kill attempt then i dont know what is. what he used is unknown. i dont feel like speculating about it though.

He didn't necessarily get the entire cloak ripped from him. Just the Kurama-extension, which can be reformed in a matter of seconds. And yeah, the fact that his cloak is pure chakra is an advantage, and it basically allowed him to counter Madara's Mokuton Dragon without taking any damage that the original Kurama would have.

i know he just got the kurama extension ripped. he is still restricted from full beast mode when facing madara/hashirama.



I'd say the Wood Dragon is more or less on the level of Flower World and the other techs. Flower World did fail to put the Kages down for good (though Madara didn't go in for the finisher), and there's something else Madara must have used to finish them off off-panel. Maybe something similar in strength to the Wood Dragon, which I bet the Kages would have a lot of trouble putting down, if putting it down at all.
its basically on the same tier as his other techs bar perfect susano. id reckon that super jinton can beat it maybe.
Yeah, I agree with PS being on a higher scale power wise, but it's actual effect on Naruto is different, so it's hard to compare how Naruto would fair against PS by basing it off of his performance against the Dragon. It's possible at this point that Naruto's BM might be able to match up against it, considering the fact that he only lost the tips of a few tails after taking a mountain range-busting attack head on.
perfect susano=slicing power
juubi tbb=explosive power in a beam or projectile
according to hype, perfect susano smashes everything in the universe.
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But back to the original topic, I say Naruto and Bee can take this quite comfortably. Naruto took on Juubi's laser head-on and basically took no damage at all, so I doubt that Jinton, even with it's atomizing properties, would really achieve much, considering it also didn't do anything to PS either. That means it can't destroy everything just because of its properties, and that it has a limit. And I think it's safe to say something that tanked Juubi's laser can also tank Onoki's Jinton. So Onoki can't really aid much other than aiming for Bee (who also might be able to take Jinton a little, considering he tanked his own TBB, something that has destructive power comparable to PS) and lightening the other Kage.
PS actually never touched jinton although it wouldnt do much as PS is twice as big as it and can easily be reformed if necessary. bee is a big target for jinton soo..... jinton laser to the face kills bee/hachibi.

Mei's almost a non-factor here, as her lava can't harm Naruto at all, nor Bee assuming he's not staying in BM, and assuming he's on his toes. She can probably get killed quite easily by a TBB-barrage or something, along with Tsunade possibly. If she decides to use her hidden mist technique, she'd end up blinding her own allies too. So that's taken out. Her poison mist would also harm her comrades, so it can't be used.
hidden mist worked just fine against madara. bee needs full hachibi if he doesnt want to die quickly. lava has been shown to burn hachibi as seen with roshi.

Tsunade can't achieve much either. If Bee's TBB couldn't harm him, and if Juubi's laser couldn't harm Naruto, I'm thinking her punches won't really do shit to their durable bodies. She'd just get killed in the crossfire eventually, probably by a TBB or something. At best she might be able to lift a lightened Bee (by A), but Naruto would just grab her with one of his tails and suffocate her or something. If Bijuu can't break his tails' grip, I doubt Tsunade can.
onoki uses earth core shift and offsets naruto and bees balance similar to how the juubi was set off balance so its tbb wouldnt hit the alliance.
tsunade can be a good healer like against madara. lightened Ay blitzes naruto and bee. they thought that the juubi was too fast. onoki makes him heavy just as he is about to make contact and naruto and bee get sent across the battlefield just like madara and his susano.
gaaras sand pyramid can slow them down
mei is backup
@bold: do you seriously think that is a feasible tactic? when narutos tail goes for her, she lifts BM naruto and tosses him sm naruto style.
onoki somehow increased the weight of 5 susano clones just by being close to them. the same can be dont to naruto and bee.
A also is at loss here. His stronger father couldn't beat Bee, and A being faster than his dad won't mean much. Naruto's faster, stronger, and more durable. Bee's stronger and more durable. A whirlwind can blow A along with the other Kage away, and leave them open to continuous TBB barrages. This also accounts for Gaara, really. His sand wont be able to restrain beings as powerful as Kurama and Gyuuki.
onoki can lighten Ay to be even faster and he can weigh him down to be even stronger than his father.
gaaras sand and onokis golem defense can serve as defenses for the whirlwind. the sand pyramid can hold them off for a few seconds which is enough to prep super jinton.
 
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