[Theory] Naruto and Sasuke parallel to the Japanese gods

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Well according to itachi you get a new technique when you get ems.

I'm not sure what this new technique is, whether its Genjutsu, Ninjutsu, Fūinjutsu or even taijutsu. But I do have a theory as to what it could be called.

Judging by the names of the techniques we've seen already which are all names of Japanese gods. I'm guessing its going to be called Izanami. Reason I say this is from the family tree of the Japanese gods, its rather interesting and to my surprise there's a parallel from the gods story to Naruto and Sasuke.

These are first two Japaneses gods, think of them like Father and Mother.
Izanagi ("Exalted Male")
Izanami ("Exalted Female")

They had two children,but they were badly-formed and are not considered gods in their original form. They dismayed at their misfortune, put the children into a boat and set them out to sea.
Hiruko ("leech child")
Awashima ("pale island")

Long story short they tried again and gave birth to 8 great islands(not children this time).

Then Izanami died while giving birth to another child Kagutsuchi (incarnation of fire). Then the good father Izanagi is, he killed the child out of anger.

Izanagi then went to go to Yomi (The shadowy land of the dead) to find Izanami. Apparently it's eternal darkness. Long story short he failed, Izanami said she had already eaten the food of the underworld and was now one with the land of the dead. In the process of trying to find Izanami he now needs to purify himself because of his visit to Yomi.

Izanagi purifies himself and gave birth to three more gods.

Amaterasu (incarnation of the sun) from his left eye,
Tsukuyomi (incarnation of the moon) from his right eye, and
Susanoo (incarnation of storms and ruler of the sea and storms) from his nose.

Ok that's the end of the mythology lesson,if you want know more its all here.


Note the names of the living children/gods not used in Naruto at the moment.

Awashima ("pale island")
This could be a long lost jutsu in the Nauto world maybe So6P era, not necessarily anything to do with the Sharingan. As Awashima and Hiruko were cast away. Note Hiruko is already used It's the name of one of Sasori puppets.

Izanami ("Exalted Female")
This has a high chance based from the other names of the sharingan techniques we've seen already. Also Izanami was one of the first gods like Izanagi showing that she is held in high regard. Also Izanami is associated with Yomi (The shadowy land of the dead) where there's eternal darkness, just like all the sharingan techniques when used frequently enough you slowly plunge yourself into eternal darkness and become blind. Therefore the new EMS technique will mostly likely will be more powerful compared to the other sharingan techniques.

Now here's the interesting parallel to Naruto and Sasuke , Naruto is trying to purify Sasuke from hatred like Izanagi tried for Izanami.
Also Sasuke always says to Naruto its too late to save him from the darkness, similar to how Izanami said to Izanagi was too late.
And finally Naruto is trying to purify himself from any hatred to not allow the nine tail's will take over him and this was after he met Sasuke and saw Sasuke's hatred. Just like how Izanagi met Izanami and then needed to purify himself. This in turn formed new gods, very similar to Naruto when he purifies himself from all hatred he would then be able to use the fox's chakra and get crazy ass powers.

Lol maybe Naruto and Sasuke will become gods in terms of shinobi power.
 

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U think this is a very respectable research work. No bullchit like mosts post in the forum, no conspiracy theory and wasting timne in the forum. Great work jinchurikki.. RESPECT:)
 

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U think this is a very respectable research work. No bullchit like mosts post in the forum, no conspiracy theory and wasting timne in the forum. Great work jinchurikki.. RESPECT:)

well some people might not know dude. I didn't know there was that much of close parallel. I only thought Kishi used the names only.
 

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where did it state that itachi said u get a new tech from ems? what was itachis? izanagi isnt a ems tech so i dnt think izanami would be either.. not sure though
 

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Well according to itachi you get a new technique when you get EMS. This all we know about Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan from Itachi.

"A permanent Mangekyou Sharingan. By changing host, the younger brothers eyes found an inextinguishable light."

"But that was only half of the story. The transplant also gave birth to a completely new eye technique."


I'm not sure what this new technique is, whether its Genjutsu, Ninjutsu, Fūinjutsu or even Taijutsu. But I do have a theory as to what it could be called.

Judging by the names of the techniques we've seen already which are all names of Japanese gods. I'm guessing its going to be called Izanami. Reason I say this is from the family tree of the Japanese gods, its rather interesting and to my surprise there's a parallel from the gods story to Naruto and Sasuke.

These are first two Japaneses gods, think of them like Father and Mother.
Izanagi ("Exalted Male")
Izanami ("Exalted Female")

They had two children,but they were badly-formed and are not considered gods in their original form. They dismayed at their misfortune, put the children into a boat and set them out to sea.
Hiruko ("leech child")
Awashima ("pale island")

Long story short they tried again and gave birth to 8 great islands(not children this time).

Then Izanami died while giving birth to another child Kagutsuchi (incarnation of fire). Then the good father Izanagi is, he killed the child out of anger.

Izanagi then went to Yomi (The shadowy land of the dead) to find Izanami (apparently it's eternal darkness there). When Izanagi went to save Izanami from Yomi he failed, because he couldn't handle the shear sight of her anymore, as she was all rotted away and all ugly looking. Izanami said she had "already eaten the food of the underworld" (this is why she became ugly) and "now one with Yomi" and finally she said "Izanagi your too late". Izanagi got the hell out of there asap, running and screaming out of fear. Izanagi burst out of the entrance and quickly pushed a boulder in the mouth of the cavern that used to be the entrance to Yomi. Izanami screamed from behind this impenetrable barricade and told Izanagi that if he left her she would kill 1,000 living people every day, Izanagi furiously replied he would give life to 1,500. And so began the existence of Death.

In the process of trying to find Izanami he now needs to purify himself because of his visit to Yomi, Izanagi purifies himself and gave birth to three more gods.

Amaterasu (incarnation of the sun) from his left eye,
Tsukuyomi (incarnation of the moon) from his right eye, and
Susanoo (incarnation of storms and ruler of the sea and storms) from his nose.

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: I found some interesting similarities from above with Sasuke, regarding which eye he use's for which Sharingan technique.

-Sasuke uses his left eye for Amaterasu.
-Sasuke uses his right eye for Tsukuyomi.
-Sasuke uses both eyes for Susanoo. (Obviously nothing to with the nose, but it does show just like Izanagi used neither his left or right eye to create Susanoo, Sasuke also needs to use both eyes and not either one alone to use Susanoo.)

Just for completeness, I don't think you can draw any conclusions from this.
-Sasuke uses his right eye for Kagutsuchi. (This the name of technique Sasuke uses to manipulate Amaterasu)

Ok that's the end of the mythology lesson,if you want know more its all here.


Note the names of the living children/gods not used in Naruto at the moment.

Awashima
This could be a long lost jutsu in the Nauto world maybe So6P era, not necessarily anything to do with the Sharingan. Or it could be a future character in the series.

Hiruko is already used it's the name of Sasori puppet and this could be considered a deformity because Sasori took body parts of the real Hiruko to create the puppet version. I found this in particular quite interesting as Awashima and Hiruko were outcasts because of their deformities.


Izanami
This has a high chance based from the other names of the sharingan techniques we've seen already. Also Izanami was one of the first gods like Izanagi showing that she is held in high regard. Also Izanami is associated with Yomi (The shadowy land of the dead) where there's eternal darkness, just like all the sharingan techniques when used frequently enough you slowly plunge yourself into eternal darkness and become blind. Also there were a couple of phrases said by Sasuke of emprasing the darkness(he said this to Garaa at the kage summit) like Izanami. Therefore the new EMS technique will mostly likely will be more powerful compared to the other sharingan techniques.

I have been also thinking about how time space techniques could fit into all this, if Izanami turns out to be Madara's warp to another dimension jutsu once you get EMS. I managed to find a connection to the Japanese god's story. Recalling back to Izanami, she said she would kill 1000 people per day but we were told she was behind a impenetrable barricade. So she was able to go in and out of the living world and Yomi where before her no one from Yomi could do this. This is like an analogy of how Madara is the only one(so far) that can go in and out of dimensions with that mystery technique of his.

But to be honest I doubt you get this wrap technique when you obtain EMS. It wouldn't be a good move for Madara to give Itachi eyes to Sasuke if he knows he'll end up with a haxed time space technique. Its not like they are allies really and the only thing Madara has on Sasuke to keep him in line at the moment is that wrap move he has. Maybe there's a special way of unlocking the technique once you get EMS where only Madara knows about. Either that or maybe Madara is going to get hax power up soon like Rinnegan(Hes already talked about getting the Rinnegan) or chakra from the bujj he's captured. It doesn't seem like a good strategy to give someone as unstable as Sasuke a haxed time space technique if you don't have a backup plan.

Now here's the interesting parallels to Naruto and Sasuke,

-Naruto is trying to purify Sasuke from hatred like Izanagi tried for Izanami.
-Sasuke always says to Naruto its too late to save him from the darkness, just like how Izanami said to Izanagi was too late.
-Naruto is trying to purify himself from any hatred to not allow the nine tail's will to take over him and this was after he met Sasuke and saw Sasuke's hatred. Just like how Izanagi met Izanami and then needed to purify himself after he left Yomi. This in turn formed new gods, very similar to Naruto when he purifies himself hatred he would then be able to use the fox's chakra at will and as a result get crazy ass powers.

Lol maybe Naruto and Sasuke will become gods in terms of shinobi power.
 
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Looking forward to see Sasuke's Izanami technique, and Naruto's true form. They both got half pieces from the SO6P who was considered a god... so this whole parallel between god and Sasuke & Naruto makes sense.

I don't really see how Naruto fits with the legend of Izanami & Izanagi, I get Izanagi tries to purify Izanami & himself, but how is Naruto represented by Izanagi when that was Danzo's technique...?

Either way Sasuke and Naruto @ this point should be considered on @ god level, they are both too strong, who would be able to beat Naruto @ this point except Sasuke?
 

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Just an FYI, but while you all use the term 'god' the Japanese do not worship them as gods the same sense Catholics worship god. Kami is the proper term and they are closer to spirits that are one with Japan and its people, higher powers that did not create Japan, but instead are Japan. Unfortunately I have no proper way to describe it as I am not Japanese nor do I speak Japanese (Chinese yes, but that only gets you a little bit of the way to understanding Japanese), but I know that 'god' or 'deity' is not the proper term to use, Kami is.
 
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