Naruto and Sasuke Natural powers

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Naruto doesnt have any KKG. Vitality and high chakra reserves are clan trait like Nara clan high IQ.
Well it's not. Only high vitality is a clan trait. The high chakra come from kurama and Ashura. Which by OP would be an outside source.
 

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Borrowed/stolen/given powers aside, Naruto>>>>Sasuke.

Simple as that.
 

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I edited the list, I removed Chibaku Tensei from Sasuke move list. Itachi was able to use Genjutsu with terrible eye sight. Was it ever stated that becoming blind they lose their Sharingan and MS jutsu?

Madara was able to do Susano without eyes.
But Uchihas genjutsu are visual. They cant cast them without eyes.
Well it's not. Only high vitality is a clan trait. The high chakra come from kurama and Ashura. Which by OP would be an outside source.
Nope. In first chapter Naruto could make thousands clones without Kurama.
 

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Well it's not. Only high vitality is a clan trait. The high chakra come from kurama and Ashura. Which by OP would be an outside source.

It comes from kushina,and kurama.Ashura's only blossomed when Naruto died.
 

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But Uchihas genjutsu are visual. They cant cast them without eyes.
Nope. In first chapter Naruto could make thousands clones without Kurama.
Still because of Kurama. His chakra been syncing and mixing into his own since he became a Jin at the ripe age of 10 minutes.
It comes from kushina,and kurama.Ashura's only blossomed when Naruto died.
No it don't. Kushina doesn't have large chakra reserves. She have a strong chakra which Naruto inherited large chakra and strong chakra isn't the same. No it didn't Ashura's chakra always been with Naruto. Same as Sasuke and Indra. Why would he get Ashura's chakra when he died but sensed Indra's in Sasuke when he killed Danzo.
 

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Still because of Kurama. His chakra been syncing and mixing into his own since he became a Jin at the ripe age of 10 minutes.
Nope. When he uses Kurama his eyes have fox like pupils. and red color
 

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Nope. When he uses Kurama his eyes have fox like pupils. and red color

Hmm this chapter is enough proof that Kurama chakra is always mixing with Naruto

Here is the quote
Two Four Elephant Seals... A Double Seal... Maybe the Hakke Seal Method...

It's Set up so some chakra of the Nine-Tails slips out from between the
Elephant seals and combines with the kid's chakra.

If you know the Viz version translation that would be better or if we have a reliable translator like someone called Herms who did the Dragon Ball Translation from Japanese to English.


I wish finding Databook was as easy as finding manga.
 

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Strange discussion. I'd guess natural without anything they're still incredibly powerful and fast at this point regardless.
 

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Naruto's KKG are so forced. Like what kind of a KKG is high chakra and high vitality?
 

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Hmm this chapter is enough proof that Kurama chakra is always mixing with Naruto

Here is the quote


If you know the Viz version translation that would be better or if we have a reliable translator like someone called Herms who did the Dragon Ball Translation from Japanese to English.


I wish finding Databook was as easy as finding manga.
Always mixing doesnt mean that Naruto can use Kurama chakra automatically.
Jiraiya said that Naruto has two types of chakra

Naruto tried to release his chakra but failed

And then Jiraiya said that personal danger or hieghtened emotions are the key to Kyuubis chakra
 

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Still because of Kurama. His chakra been syncing and mixing into his own since he became a Jin at the ripe age of 10 minutes.

No it don't. Kushina doesn't have large chakra reserves. She have a strong chakra which Naruto inherited large chakra and strong chakra isn't the same. No it didn't Ashura's chakra always been with Naruto. Same as Sasuke and Indra. Why would he get Ashura's chakra when he died but sensed Indra's in Sasuke when he killed Danzo.
Databook claimed kushina had immense chakra,even Naruto Wiki..so what the hell are you saying?
 

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I created this thread to talk about Naruto and Sasuke powers, which they use without outside source. Without Outside source powers like Hagoromo an example here their powers:





Now on to Naruto powers and skills:



I done my best to put what natural power they would gain without Curse Seal, Bijuus, brother eye, Hagoromo, etc basically anything outside source which are not natural.

If there any mistakes or missing please let me know, this list wasn't easy to make.

It was tricky making the quote and spoilers all tidy, so they don't look all messy.

The problem with comparing them is that Naruto grows stronger as he gets older because SM becomes more refined and his skills, the longer sasuke lives and fights the less powerful he gets because of the MS losing sight and draining him. Heck he'd be blind before the war arc canonically so in the long term naruto>sasuke but immediate power levels susanoo puts sasuke above naruto easy.

Also its stupid to compare anyways because the manga power scaling wasn't supposed to account for borrowed powers kishi didnt go "oh naruto has a borrowed one sasuke needs one also" they don't care where the power comes from just as long as you have it
 

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Nope. When he uses Kurama his eyes have fox like pupils. and red color
Boy when Kurama's chakra mix with Naruto's he never have Kurama's eyes. That's only when he's under kurama's influence. Naruto's chakra came from Kurama's chakra MIXING with his since birth. 13 year's of Kurama's chakra mixing with Naruto's is what allowed him to make over 1k kage bunshins.
Databook claimed kushina had immense chakra,even Naruto Wiki..so what the hell are you saying?
Still denying manga facts boy you're hopeless. And where does it say that in the DB? In here it still say special chakra. It was never said in the manga that Uzumaki's have large chakra reserves.
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Boy when Kurama's chakra mix with Naruto's he never have Kurama's eyes. That's only when he's under kurama's influence. Naruto's chakra came from Kurama's chakra MIXING with his since birth. 13 year's of Kurama's chakra mixing with Naruto's is what allowed him to make over 1k kage bunshins.

Still denying manga facts boy you're hopeless. And where does it say that in the DB? In here it still say special chakra. It was never said in the manga that Uzumaki's have large chakra reserves.
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Hmm this chapter is enough proof that Kurama chakra is always mixing with Naruto

Here is the quote


If you know the Viz version translation that would be better or if we have a reliable translator like someone called Herms who did the Dragon Ball Translation from Japanese to English.


I wish finding Databook was as easy as finding manga.
Always mixing doesnt mean that Naruto can use Kurama chakra automatically.
Jiraiya said that Naruto has two types of chakra

Naruto tried to release his chakra but failed

And then Jiraiya said that personal danger or hieghtened emotions are the key to Kyuubis chakra
 

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Boy when Kurama's chakra mix with Naruto's he never have Kurama's eyes. That's only when he's under kurama's influence. Naruto's chakra came from Kurama's chakra MIXING with his since birth. 13 year's of Kurama's chakra mixing with Naruto's is what allowed him to make over 1k kage bunshins.

Still denying manga facts boy you're hopeless. And where does it say that in the DB? In here it still say special chakra. It was never said in the manga that Uzumaki's have large chakra reserves.
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Always mixing doesnt mean that Naruto can use Kurama chakra automatically.
Jiraiya said that Naruto has two types of chakra

Naruto tried to release his chakra but failed

And then Jiraiya said that personal danger or hieghtened emotions are the key to Kyuubis chakra
 
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