Naruto and Sasuke Equal Shuushin Speed

[LordRaikage]

these sasuke fapboys have surpassed my expectations of how low human stupidity can be.

 

[ANiMUS]

Looks like you are not understanding what I'm saying.

I would advise you to watch the fight itself so you can look at the gifs in HD, but anyway. Naruto/Sasuke started off running, and then they reached Momoshiki. That isn't Shunshin. Anyone with a brain can tell that they broke off running and that's all they did.

There's no requirement to start off running before using Shunshin, and the latter. Sasuke/Naruto were already fighting Momoshiki, and at this time it was when their cooperative motions started to play in a fluid-like 'back and forth' beat down towards the enemy. Naruto/Sasuke started off running, Naruto was ahead, Sasuke caught up and then he used Body Flicker to bring himself to Momoshiki before Naruto, and then Naruto came in with his combo afterwards.

This isn't really difficult to understand, nor is it complicated in any form. It's just common sense.

I am talking purely on the first gif though. I will have to look at the fight again, but from my memory the fight starts off with Naruto and Sasuke rushing Momoshiki so fast that the ground catches on fire and straps of wood go flying. They don't show Naruto and Sasuke running at that point just the aftereffects of the fire on the ground and Momoshiki stopping their attack.

I don't see y u wouldn't call that shunshin, but again I will look over the movie again

 

[lndra]

I am talking purely on the first gif though. I will have to look at the fight again, but from my memory the fight starts off with Naruto and Sasuke rushing Momoshiki so fast that the ground catches on fire and straps of wood go flying. They don't show Naruto and Sasuke running at that point just the aftereffects of the fire on the ground and Momoshiki stopping their attack.

I don't see y u wouldn't call that shunshin, but again I will look over the movie again

Mainly because both Naruto/Sasuke were shown running throughout the entire scene. Body Flicker is a flicker of speed basically, you use it and then you are already on the spot.

Naruto/Sasuke started off running, and continued to run all the way towards the end. Watching the scene makes it more clear. They are just moving extremely fast, and even then the animators made sure to make note of the fire streak they left from behind with their quick steps. They ran that straight line towards him.

With the Body Flicker (using only the movie examples) Sasuke was already running by Naruto's side, but then he flickered and then he teleports to Momoshiki.

 

[ANiMUS]

Mainly because both Naruto/Sasuke were shown running throughout the entire scene. Body Flicker is a flicker of speed basically, you use it and then you are already on the spot.

Naruto/Sasuke started off running, and continued to run all the way towards the end. Watching the scene makes it more clear. They are just moving extremely fast, and even then the animators made sure to make note of the fire streak they left from behind with their quick steps. They ran that straight line towards him.

With the Body Flicker (using only the movie examples) Sasuke was already running by Naruto's side, but then he flickered (you even see the dust around Sasuke swirl up like a regular Body Flicker in the Manga when his body disappears) and then he teleports to Momoshiki.

Sasuke running by Naruto's side and then using body flicker is the one that I said I wanted to leave out. That moment happens after the initial clash where I assumed they used Body flicker. During the first clash they don't show Naruto and Sasuke running just Naruto Sasuke and Momo dashing towards one another with neither party's movements being seen.

That ^ sounds like a body flicker

 

[Blackzoro]

these sasuke fapboys have surpassed my expectations of how low human stupidity can be.

Sigh lol they've surpassed my expectation when i saw some say he can heal himself without a feat of him ever doing so in the manga

 

[lndra]

Sasuke running by Naruto's side and then using body flicker is the one that I said I wanted to leave out. That moment happens after the initial clash where I assumed they used Body flicker. During the first clash they don't show Naruto and Sasuke running just Naruto Sasuke and Momo dashing towards one another with neither party's movements being seen.

That ^ sounds like a body flicker

No if they body flickered towards Momoshiki you wouldn't have seen them running in the first place. The only reason why that logic doesn't apply to Sasuke's Body Flicker is because he was already running before he used it to strike Momoshiki in the chest. He only used it when he caught up to Naruto's pace.

That's when they started hitting in a back and forth, fluid-like motion.

 

[ANiMUS]

I promise how alike both Naruto and Sasuke fans are is vomit inducing. Every since I came to this site it has been just one side putting down the other claiming intellectual superiority yet both sides display the same low level of intelligence. Seriously it's days like this that I seriously wonder y I am still here :wesobi:

 

[Blackzoro]

No if they body flickered towards Momoshiki you wouldn't have seen them running in the first place. The only reason why that logic doesn't apply to Sasuke's Body Flicker is because he was already running before he used it to strike Momoshiki in the chest. He only used it when he caught up to Naruto's pace.

That's when they started hitting in a back and forth, fluid-like motion.

Never mind this is what i was trying to say

 

[ANiMUS]

When they all ran/ dashed at each other u couldnt see them cuz they were running behind those rock or trees whatever those things were covering them. When shunshin is used it appears as if the person teleported which is what sasuke shown

That point in which u claim looks like teleportation just looks like fast running to me, but that is essentially what Shunshin actually is. Also in the initial clash there is no rock in the way. The view just pans back, but there is a clear level view on the stump.

 

[ANiMUS]

No if they body flickered towards Momoshiki you wouldn't have seen them running in the first place. The only reason why that logic doesn't apply to Sasuke's Body Flicker is because he was already running before he used it to strike Momoshiki in the chest. He only used it when he caught up to Naruto's pace.

That's when they started hitting in a back and forth, fluid-like motion.

So in other words u r saying that if they had used Body flicker then there would be no signs of them running at all :|

 

[Blackzoro]

That point in which u claim looks like teleportation just looks like fast running to me, but that is essentially what Shunshin actually is. Also in the initial clash there is no rock in the way. The view just pans back, but there is a clear level view on the stump.

Idk those roots in the way is why i cant pick them up but its obvious thats them running

 

[Blackzoro]

So in other words u r saying that if they had used Body flicker then there would be no signs of them running at all :|

If they had used shunshin at the begining there wouldnt be a trace of them in the first place cuz itll look like the person disappeared. The only reason you can see that sasuke and that he used shunshin is that he was running at first before using shunshin. You know they werr running cuz there is a trail of fire where they were running from shunshin wouldve leave a trace on the ground

 

[lndra]

So in other words u r saying that if they had used Body flicker then there would be no signs of them running at all :|

Obviously.

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Like I said before, the only reason why it doesn't quite work for Sasuke's position is because he was already running and he then used body flicker. Naruto and Sasuke were running the entire time. The didn't need to initiate some sort of running pace as shown before they blasted off. Even Momoshiki did as well, and they met somewhere down the middle.

Hopefully this is the last time I have to talk about this :lol

I really hate Naruto/Sasuke threads, I've been trying to avoid them for a long time now lol...

 

[ANiMUS]

Obviously.

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Like I said before, the only reason why it doesn't quite work for Sasuke's position is because he was already running and he then used body flicker. Naruto and Sasuke were running the entire time. The didn't need to initiate some sort of running pace as shown before they blasted off. Even Momoshiki did as well, and they met somewhere down the middle.

Hopefully this is the last time I have to talk about this :lol

I really hate Naruto/Sasuke threads, I've been trying to avoid them for a long time now lol...

Then Naruto's speed feat of redirecting bijuudama is pure flight speed not shuushin?

I only avoid boring/ petty threads. If there is something I can learn then I don't mind joining

 

[lndra]

Then Naruto's speed feat of redirecting bijuudama is pure flight speed not shuushin?

I only avoid boring/ petty threads. If there is something I can learn then I don't mind joining

Correct, he was using footspeed.

Then he used Kurama's tails to deflect them.

 

[ANiMUS]

I believe that was foot speed. Honestly just going by memory here, I'd have to look at the chapter again.

Then he used Kurama's tails to deflect them.

Naruto moved through the air during that time and it resembled a beam of light just like the other previous shunshin. The only thing in this instance is that if I am not mistaken Naruto deflected the tbb with wind pressure, or it could have been tails, but I can't be sure until I go back and look

 

[lndra]

Naruto moved through the air during that time and it resembled a beam of light just like the other previous shunshin. The only thing in this instance is that if I am not mistaken Naruto deflected the tbb with wind pressure, or it could have been tails, but I can't be sure until I go back and look

I'd have to look at the chapter again but I believe that was footspeed. Either that or the residue from his chakra mode formulating.

But yeah before Kid educated me on this, I thought he deflected these Bijuudama with speed only. Though if you continue to look at the page or page(s) after, you can see a portion of Naruto's Kurama avatar which was used to deflect the Bijuudama.

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[ANiMUS]

I'd have to look at the chapter again but I believe that was footspeed. Either that or the residue from his chakra mode formulating.

But yeah before Kid educated me on this, I thought he deflected these Bijuudama with speed only. Though if you continue to look at the page or page(s) after, you can see a portion of Naruto's Kurama avatar which was used to deflect the Bijuudama.

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Oh ok. I am gonna stop here. When I get into something I don't eat and right now I am starving with a plate of lasagna that has gotten cold from my negligence.

Later :bye:

 

[lndra]

Oh ok. I am gonna stop here. When I get into something I don't eat and right now I am starving with a plate of lasagna that has gotten cold from my negligence.

Later :bye:

Iight we can continue this over VM or something later

 

[ANiMUS]

Iight we can continue this over VM or something later

Sounds good