Naruto and Sasuke are not equals. Kishi has been showing from thebegining...

Madara Uzumaki Uchiha

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OP is clearly too ignorant to understand the themes in Naruto.

Let me explain this in a way you can understand.

Your beloved Itachi tried everything by himself and he failed- he even admited that much, Itachi realized they you need help in order to succeed. That's a real life message, good luck getting by solo- cause in the real world nobody gives a dam how you make it.

Allowing others to help you is a pro not a weakness moron. Clearly, you can't take your retard lens off to realize that.

Your case is clear bigotry, obviously having people want to help you is a good thing, deal with it, power is power, nobody gives a shit how you get it. Do you think military leaders conquered nations solo? No, they had armies.

Go complain about kaguya becoming a god by eating a fruit, Blackbeard stealing devil fruits, etc...

Even if you were right about your so called "borrowed power" your conclusion is completely erroneous.

Lets compare Sasuke without friendship powerups to Naruto under the same criteria.

Naruto looses kuruma.

Sasuke looses EMS since it is itachi's eyes.

So basically, without other people bestowing power, We have sage mode naruto vs MS Sasuke.

Furthmore, after kage summit, so after a few battles, Sasuke basically went blind.

Without outside help, we have sage mode naruto who is kage level vs blind Sasuke who is zetsu level.

GTFO--; SM naruto babyshakes blind Sasuke.
 

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I could have read this wrong but you're saying Base Naruto isn't =Base Sasuke? You do realize Base Sasuke = No Sharingan.
 

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OP is clearly too ignorant to understand the themes in Naruto.

Let me explain this in a way you can understand.

Your beloved Itachi tried everything by himself and he failed- he even admited that much, Itachi realized they you need help in order to succeed. That's a real life message, good luck getting by solo- cause in the real world nobody gives a dam how you make it.

Allowing others to help you is a pro not a weakness moron. Clearly, you can't take your retard lens off to realize that.

Your case is clear bigotry, obviously having people want to help you is a good thing, deal with it, power is power, nobody gives a shit how you get it. Do you think military leaders conquered nations solo? No, they had armies.

Go complain about kaguya becoming a god by eating a fruit, Blackbeard stealing devil fruits, etc...

Even if you were right about your so called "borrowed power" your conclusion is completely erroneous.

Lets compare Sasuke without friendship powerups to Naruto under the same criteria.

Naruto looses kuruma.

Sasuke looses EMS since it is itachi's eyes.

So basically, without other people bestowing power, We have sage mode naruto vs MS Sasuke.

Furthmore, after kage summit, so after a few battles, Sasuke basically went blind.

Without outside help, we have sage mode naruto who is kage level vs blind Sasuke who is zetsu level.

GTFO--; SM naruto babyshakes blind Sasuke.

Lol funny. I agree
 

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Agreed, Naruto has always needed a bijuu to compete with sasuke in terms of power, but it goes a long with the whole "work together" theme. It's possible that he could be as strong without Kurama, but that's not the path the author wanted to take so woop. I'll give it to Naruto that he was most likely stronger than Sasuke pre-sage power up, but when sasuke unlocks his PS then he will be as strong as BSM naruto.
 

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All of Ichigo's powerups are more bs than all of the "given powers" in Naruto combined. Ichigo has some conversation or fight with his sword and suddenly becomes more powerful than people who have trained for hundreds of years.

they have explained time and time again why that is
 

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The manga is about cooperation and teamwork. And how you can't achieve everything alone. OP is clearly too simple minded to get it.
 

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Same as sasuke, the sharingan came from the juubi, a tailed beast, interesting right?

let me simplify even further:
kyuubi -> living, breathing, character with brain and chakra.

Naruto -> kekkei genkai:uzumaki blood sage body basically

Sasuke -> kekkei genkai : sharingan sage eyes basically

why does Naruto need another living enctity with its own kekkei genkai to fight one character
 

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There is nothing that said Ashura had bijuu's

It's true that Naruto has Kurama, but Sasuke was given the CM, Drugs to make him get stronger faster and his brothers eye. They both were given powers, so deal with it :cool:

didn't he have to "die" to be able to use the curse mark, what drugs are you talking about, he got fast studying lee then training, and the thing about his eyes is about being an Uchiha
 

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didn't he have to "die" to be able to use the curse mark, what drugs are you talking about, he got fast studying lee then training, and the thing about his eyes is about being an Uchiha
It was still given to him, Tsunade said that Orochimaru gave Sasuke pills to get stronger faster
 

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Same as sasuke, the sharingan came from the juubi, a tailed beast, interesting right?

sorry that doesn't make sense as an argument, because you say that then you have to concede that everyone has chakra from Juubi so everyone has something from a tailed beast
 

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let me simplify even further:
kyuubi -> living, breathing, character with brain and chakra.

Naruto -> kekkei genkai:uzumaki blood sage body basically

Sasuke -> kekkei genkai : sharingan sage eyes basically

why does Naruto need another living enctity with its own kekkei genkai to fight one character

Remember Naruto, unlike Sasuke, never received training or knowledge from his clan to tech him how to use his power. Also the 9 tails holds Naruto back because it makes it harder for Naruto to control his chakra. This might be the 1st time in the entire manga that Naruto is able to use his full power.
 

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It was still given to him, Tsunade said that Orochimaru gave Sasuke pills to get stronger faster

not sure when that was said but i have never seen Sasuke or oro from that matter take drugs to increase their speed kiba has been the only one i've seen do that
 

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sorry that doesn't make sense as an argument, because you say that then you have to concede that everyone has chakra from Juubi so everyone has something from a tailed beast

Its true actuly, Every Drop of Chakra originally belong to Jubbi, Every single one shinobi in NV has borrowed power from Jubbi so No one should complain about it
 
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Its two complete different life styles but represent the same meaning but maintains a wide range of different opinions and feelings.

naruto worked hard, his confidence goes up with the support of his friends which helps him push further, he trained for sage mode then the same to gain control over kurama. He started believing in himself and fought further and further.

Sasuke trained hard whilst with orochimaru, he never thought about others because he believed in his own strength. He finally killed itachi in which he wanted sasuke to do in all fairness thats his choice. Sasuke continued to progress and fought hard opponents too.

They are equal its just a simple case that the spotlight obviously being on naruto bends the argument his way.
 

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let me simplify even further:
kyuubi -> living, breathing, character with brain and chakra.

Naruto -> kekkei genkai:uzumaki blood sage body basically

Sasuke -> kekkei genkai : sharingan sage eyes basically

why does Naruto need another living enctity with its own kekkei genkai to fight one character

good point
 
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