Naruto and Sasuke are not equals. Kishi has been showing from thebegining...

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Naruto and Sasuke are not equals. let me put it in php code:

$Naruto != Sasuke; //this means naruto is not equal to Sasuke.

$Naruto + $bijuu == Sasuke; // this means naruto plus bijuu is equal to sasuke.

now this is not some praise Sasuke crapy-post bcoz i dont like the idea of that type of main character.

but i believe that the sooner we accept Kishimoto's philosophy the sooner these Naruto vs Sasuke threads stop.

Kishimoto has programmed people reach a state of mind where they consolidate themselves and their naruto solos statements - which is crap. the only powerfull powerup naruto archieved on his own is the sage mode, which Kishi rendered it not effective, which is why he needs kyuubi to maintain it longer.

Now, why must the main actor, the one that the story is named after: always rely on people and bijuus (which is another living enctity), why cant the main actor be original for once, atleast the end...

and some may argue that Sasuke is using his brother's eyes however - bottom line is... his brother never gave him all that chakra he is spamming and his taijutsu. as a matter of fact Sasuke has been training to surpass his brother from a very tender age., while Naruto was running around with paint buckets.

you see, Kishimoto is very comfortable with that, maybe thats the message he wants to send because maybe thats how he succeded. he never did on his own - maybe.

So lets just accept it and enjoy other manga aswell. i mean e.g look at bleach Ichigo is so original right now its awesome. look at Goku, look at Erin, a weak titan - combat wise but its good.

Even Ashura was using bijuu to fight his brother. thats just how Kishi wants. hashirama was an ecception.

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All of Ichigo's powerups are more bs than all of the "given powers" in Naruto combined. Ichigo has some conversation or fight with his sword and suddenly becomes more powerful than people who have trained for hundreds of years.
 

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The manga has a friendship based theme, i once read in one of Kishi's interviews that he wants kids to have this unity thing going on, so i guess the MC has too support that role, that's just how it is.
 

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now this is not some praise Sasuke crapy-post bcoz i dont like the idea of that type of main character

What is it if not that?
 

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There is nothing that said Ashura had bijuu's

It's true that Naruto has Kurama, but Sasuke was given the CM, Drugs to make him get stronger faster and his brothers eye. They both were given powers, so deal with it :cool:
 

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plus sasuke need juugo senjutsu, kyuubi chakra for half BSM level.
 

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Naruto and Sasuke are not equals. let me put it in php code:

$Naruto != Sasuke; //this means naruto is not equal to Sasuke.

$Naruto + $bijuu == Sasuke; // this means naruto plus bijuu is equal to sasuke.

now this is not some praise Sasuke crapy-post bcoz i dont like the idea of that type of main character.

but i believe that the sooner we accept Kishimoto's philosophy the sooner these Naruto vs Sasuke threads stop.

Kishimoto has programmed people reach a state of mind where they consolidate themselves and their naruto solos statements - which is crap. the only powerfull powerup naruto archieved on his own is the sage mode, which Kishi rendered it not effective, which is why he needs kyuubi to maintain it longer.

Now, why must the main actor, the one that the story is named after: always rely on people and bijuus (which is another living enctity), why cant the main actor be original for once, atleast the end...

and some may argue that Sasuke is using his brother's eyes however - bottom line is... his brother never gave him all that chakra he is spamming and his taijutsu. as a matter of fact Sasuke has been training to surpass his brother from a very tender age., while Naruto was running around with paint buckets.

you see, Kishimoto is very comfortable with that, maybe thats the message he wants to send because maybe thats how he succeded. he never did on his own - maybe.

So lets just accept it and enjoy other manga aswell. i mean e.g look at bleach Ichigo is so original right now its awesome. look at Goku, look at Erin, a weak titan - combat wise but its good.

Even Ashura was using bijuu to fight his brother. thats just how Kishi wants. hashirama was an ecception.

Thank You!
This guy know nothing about Naruto
 

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There is nothing that said Ashura had bijuu's

It's true that Naruto has Kurama, but Sasuke was given the CM, Drugs to make him get stronger faster and his brothers eye. They both were given powers, so deal with it :cool:


when i spoke about people consolidating themselves. this^^^^^ is what i mearnt and more....
 

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Kishi favorite character is Sasuke
This was mentioned in the beginning chapters, where there are hints & remarks made by Kishi himself.
If you want proof, then look for yourself by, read the 1st page of the beginning chapters.
 

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If i had a dollar for every time people make ''naruto borrowed powers, sasuke hasn't borrowed power'' i would have become a millionaire by now.

OT: both of them borrowed, case closed.
 

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If i had a dollar for every time people make ''naruto borrowed powers, sasuke hasn't borrowed power'' i would have become a millionaire by now.

OT: both of them borrowed, case closed.
Agreed. u-u
 

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The manga has a friendship based theme, i once read in one of Kishi's interviews that he wants kids to have this unity thing going on, so i guess the MC has too support that role, that's just how it is.


That is correct. I had come across.
 

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plus sasuke need juugo senjutsu, kyuubi chakra for half BSM level.

ellaborate on power in this case...

cleary what this mearnt was that... basically you get you shoes but they dont make you run fast on anything, its just a tool.

same with eyes: just a set of new jutsu that still need sasuke's chakra. surely you won't tell me there is large quantities of itachi's chakra in those eyes. don't consolidate yourself man. accept Kishimoto's philosophy.
 

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Give a reason why I should not -rep you now? JK, you know Sharingan is a tool also and Sasuke now has another thing apart from his originaality, Itachi's eyes. Sasuke needed Taka help many times...
 

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Give a reason why I should not -rep you now? JK, you know Sharingan is a tool also and Sasuke now has another thing apart from his originaality, Itachi's eyes. Sasuke needed Taka help many times...

Sharingan came from the juubi so, he borrowed power since birth.
 

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Sauce wank thread, not even a good one.
 
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Give a reason why I should not -rep you now? JK, you know Sharingan is a tool also and Sasuke now has another thing apart from his originaality, Itachi's eyes. Sasuke needed Taka help many times...

Oh no, sharingan is a kekkei genkai,
Uzumaki blood is a kekkei - which its purpose is abigious ( i moment naruto heals fast bcoz he's Uzumaki and the next moment its bcoz of the kyuubi)

it will never be clarified Kishi does want that - he wants Naruto rely on the Kyuubi from birth to death.

anyway - belive what you want to belive.
 

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Oh no, sharingan is a kekkei genkai,
Uzumaki blood is a kekkei - which its purpose is abigious ( i moment naruto heals fast bcoz he's Uzumaki and the next moment its bcoz of the kyuubi)

it will never be clarified Kishi does want that - he wants Naruto rely on the Kyuubi from birth to death.

anyway - belive what you want to belive.

Same as sasuke, the sharingan came from the juubi, a tailed beast, interesting right?
 

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Hasn't this been proven wrong countless times? Why even make a thread.
 
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