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[Michael]

Its just some burns :|
And no RSM doesn't equal Juubi's body. Madara took on Night Guy and got cut in half and still managed to regenerate.

Naruto never has been capable of such feats . And like I said we have no idea what Sasuke is capable of, after all he seemed to get along fine after being stabbed by multiple knives in Gaiden =D

When one becomes the juubi jinchuriki, they automatically obtain RSM. RSM has regeneration ability, thats how they heal. Naruto's however isn't as powerful as an actual juubi jin because the beast within him are seperate.

Sasuke doesn't have healing abilities, never has. Naruto healed him, they same way his chakra cloak healed kakashi, guy & shikamaru. However it was faster because on Rikudou chakra.

 

[Brooks]

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[lndra]

@Indra Naruto being rusty shouldn't diminished the quality of his own chakra cloak.

No one is trying to give Sasuke feats I am simply pointing out an inconsistency

That's the problem, it did. Naruto not having contributed to his fighting skills, put him below the normal standard for his abilities, that goes for anything he is capable of doing with any of his powers.

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It really can't be an inconsistency when the fact he had not fought, trained, nor participated in any form of combat for many years.

The work differently since apparently sasuke's sword can't stretch like oro and sasuke's had better piercing feats.

Also a JJ body is waaaay stronger than half Kurama body since half Kurama it self is a part of it.

I don't think you quite understand how the Juubi Jin's differ to someone like Naruto. Unlike Madara/Kaguya, he doesn't have the ability to regenerate. That's why he has tanking prowess.

Madara/Kaguya don't need to tank, as they can reform any part of their body overtime and don't sustain damage. They can be hurt, they can bleed, but it's only temporarily.

 

[ANiMUS]

When one becomes the juubi jinchuriki, they automatically obtain RSM. RSM has regeneration ability, thats how they heal. Naruto's however isn't as powerful as an actual juubi jin because the beast within him are seperate.

Sasuke doesn't have healing abilities, never has. Naruto healed him, they same way his chakra cloak healed kakashi, guy & shikamaru. However it was faster because on Rikudou chakra.

Proof that Naruto healed him? There was no sign and it is only your assumption based on your past experiences. U know nothing of current Sasuke's abilities so u saying that Sasuke can't heal would be the same as me saying that Naruto can't wield nonboko.

Juubi jin heal because jinchuuriki gain attributes from the beasts within them.

Bee can use ink and tentacles
Naruto has his cloak
Gaara has his sand.
The Juubi can separate its flesh and heal almost instantly and it's jinchuuriki inherits that ability.

RSM seeing how it was given to Naruto from Hagoromo is separate from the power of the nine beasts

 

[lndra]

Honestly I don't know if Naruto healed Sasuke, Sasuke has the Rinnegan on constantly, and he too was Rikduou enhanced.

Him being able to heal from wounds doesn't seem like a stretch to me tbh..

 

[Michael]

That's the problem, it did. Naruto not having contributed to his fighting skills, put him below the normal standard for his abilities, that goes for anything he is capable of doing with any of his powers.

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It really can't be an inconsistency when the fact he had not fought, trained, nor participated in any form of combat for many years.


I don't think you quite understand how the Juubi Jin's differ to someone like Naruto. Unlike Madara/Kaguya, he doesn't have the ability to regenerate. That's why he has tanking prowess.

Madara/Kaguya don't need to tank, as they can reform any part of their body overtime and don't sustain damage. They can be hurt, they can bleed, but it's only temporarily.

Also note Naruto doesn't have the shinju. RSM healing has a limit, however with the shinju absorbed one gains immortality and even better regeneration.

 

[ANiMUS]

That's the problem, it did. Naruto not having contributed to his fighting skills, put him below the normal standard for his abilities, that goes for anything he is capable of doing with any of his powers.

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It really can't be an inconsistency when the fact he had not fought, trained, nor participated in any form of combat for many years.


I don't think you quite understand how the Juubi Jin's differ to someone like Naruto. Unlike Madara/Kaguya, he doesn't have the ability to regenerate. That's why he has tanking prowess.

Madara/Kaguya don't need to tank, as they can reform any part of their body overtime and don't sustain damage. They can be hurt, they can bleed, but it's only temporarily.

So u r saying Naruto made a weak cloak :|

 

[Michael]

Proof that Naruto healed him? There was no sign and it is only your assumption based on your past experiences. U know nothing of current Sasuke's abilities so u saying that Sasuke can't heal would be the same as me saying that Naruto can't wield nonboko.

Juubi jin heal because jinchuuriki gain attributes from the beasts within them.

Bee can use ink and tentacles
Naruto has his cloak
Gaara has his sand.
The Juubi can separate its flesh and heal almost instantly and it's jinchuuriki inherits that ability.

RSM seeing how it was given to Naruto from Hagoromo is separate from the power of the nine beasts

Madara himself explained how he had the senjutsu of six paths, that was due to becoming the juubi jin. Their entire healing/regeneration factor stems from RSM.

 

[lndra]

So u r saying Naruto made a weak cloak :|

There's no such thing as a weak cloak, it's the fact that Naruto couldn't handle his own powers correctly. He was inexperienced, just because he can wield a numerous about of chakra for instance, doesn't automatically make him the strongest in the world. He has to know how to control it first.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

The work differently since apparently sasuke's sword can't stretch like oro and sasuke's had better piercing feats.

Also a JJ body is waaaay stronger than half Kurama body since half Kurama it self is a part of it.

That's the problem, it did. Naruto not having contributed to his fighting skills, put him below the normal standard for his abilities, that goes for anything he is capable of doing with any of his powers.

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It really can't be an inconsistency when the fact he had not fought, trained, nor participated in any form of combat for many years.


I don't think you quite understand how the Juubi Jin's differ to someone like Naruto. Unlike Madara/Kaguya, he doesn't have the ability to regenerate. That's why he has tanking prowess.

Madara/Kaguya don't need to tank, as they can reform any part of their body overtime and don't sustain damage. They can be hurt, they can bleed, but it's only temporarily.

This isn't a rule, Naruto's Transformation was said to have better reflexes than JJ form and exchanges wood release and super regeneration with the separate abilites of the nine bijuu.

The tanking ability however was never stated to be different because Naruto wasn't hit by a very lethal attack without hia Kurama avatar as an extra defense.

In a sense you guys are right that naruto is more tanky due to his Kurama avatar but his body isn't any different

 

[Michael]

There's no such thing as a weak cloak, it's the fact that Naruto couldn't handle his own powers correctly. He was inexperienced, just because he can wield a numerous about of chakra for instance, doesn't automatically make him the strongest in the world. He has to know how to control it first.

Exactly, its just like when goku finished trianing to fight cell and krillen threw that rock at his head. He thought it wouldn't effect goku since he was very powerful but it ****ed his head up lol. I believe Naruto has to actually expect something to block it.

 

[ANiMUS]

There's no such thing as a weak cloak, it's the fact that Naruto couldn't handle his own powers correctly. He was inexperienced, just because he can wield a numerous about of chakra for instance, doesn't automatically make him the strongest in the world. He has to know how to control it first.

If he could mold sufficient protection doesn't that make his cloak weak

Madara himself explained how he had the senjutsu of six paths, that was due to becoming the juubi jin. Their entire healing/regeneration factor stems from RSM.

Sorry u r apparently really mixed up Lesula. I don't see how I can explain it any clearer than I already have
Becoming a Juubi jin gives u the Juubi's body like when Obito first became the jinchuuriki, but at that time he didn't have RSM to control that power and as a result was losing control. It was only after a power struggle that Obito gained control and attained RSM

 

[lndra]

This isn't a rule, Naruto's Transformation was said to have better reflexes than JJ form and exchanges wood release and super regeneration with the separate abilites of the nine bijuu.

The tanking ability however was never stated to be different because Naruto wasn't hit by a very lethal attack without hia Kurama avatar as an extra defense.

In a sense you guys are right that naruto is more tanky due to his Kurama avatar but his body isn't any different

The tanking ability doesn't have to be stated anywhere when you go by Manga facts, especially the difference between Naruto and Juubi Jin Madara/Kaguya.

If you would like a detailed explanation, just ask. I know most of the feats by memory.

If he could mold sufficient protection doesn't that make his cloak weak

I wouldn't say the mold is insufficient, it's just not where it needs to be because his own skill/abilities is not on par what it used to be.

It's sort of like returning to a sport you played for years, while yes you might have the experience, your body does not retain the same movement/prowess it had while you were in tip top shape.

If that analogy makes sense.

 

[ANiMUS]

Exactly, its just like when goku finished trianing to fight cell and krillen threw that rock at his head. He thought it wouldn't effect goku since he was very powerful but it ****ed his head up lol. I believe Naruto has to actually expect something to block it.

Which was what I was saying all along :|

 

[Michael]

If he could mold sufficient protection doesn't that make his cloak weak


Sorry u r apparently really mixed up Lesula. I don't see how I can explain it any clearer than I already have
Becoming a Juubi jin gives u the Juubi's body like when Obito first became the jinchuuriki, but at that time he didn't have RSM to control that power and as a result was losing control. It was only after a power struggle that Obito gained control and attained RSM

You just solo'd yourself, juubi jin = RSM like I said. :Sparks:

 

[ANiMUS]

You just solo'd yourself, juubi jin = RSM like I said. :Sparks:

Yup u are apparently just really mixed up. I just explained a Juubi body and RSM r separate, but it seems u r only see what u want to hear and not what is being said

 

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[ANiMUS]

The tanking ability doesn't have to be stated anywhere when you go by Manga facts, especially the difference between Naruto and Juubi Jin Madara/Kaguya.

If you would like a detailed explanation, just ask. I know most of the feats by memory.


I wouldn't say the mold is insufficient, it's just not where it needs to be because his own skill/abilities is not on par what it used to be.

It's sort of like returning to a sport you played for years, while yes you might have the experience, your body does not retain the same movement/prowess it had while you were in tip top shape.

If that analogy makes sense.

That kinda makes it sound like Naruto blocking is a conscious effort which I stated before, but u denied.

If u don't think Naruto has to manipulate the cloak in order to protect then that can only mean that Naruto formed his cloak in a sub par fashion

 

[Megax Rocker7]

The tanking ability doesn't have to be stated anywhere when you go by Manga facts, especially the difference between Naruto and Juubi Jin Madara/Kaguya.

If you would like a detailed explanation, just ask. I know most of the feats by memory.


I wouldn't say the mold is insufficient, it's just not where it needs to be because his own skill/abilities is not on par what it used to be.

It's sort of like returning to a sport you played for years, while yes you might have the experience, your body does not retain the same movement/prowess it had while you were in tip top shape.

If that analogy makes sense.

Naruto was never attacked by a lethal attack.

The thing that comes in close is kaguya's ash bone against his clones which clearly peirce.

It's like saying that sasuke's shirt is stronger than naruto's because it wasn't destroyed in vote 2 lol.

 

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