Name someone in the NV who can beat Toneri besides the following characters

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Foetus Himawari

 

[Ambivalence]

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You obviously have no freaking clue how to measure Toneri's power, and I like how you didn't actually counter my arguments, just wrote "no; EMS doesn't win; Moon Splitting Wheel FTW!!". You're probably still in the stage where you're like: "OMG, he split the moon, sooooo stronk". Lmfao at Rikudou Kakashi's PS not tanking Golden Wheel, just wow. Kakashi shits on Toneri.

Bring arguments or don't post at all.

 

[Simbv]

You obviously have no freaking clue how to measure Toneri's power, and I like how you didn't actually counter my arguments, just wrote "no; EMS doesn't win; Moon Splitting Wheel FTW!!". You're probably still in the stage where you're like: "OMG, he split the moon, sooooo stronk". Lmfao at Rikudou Kakashi's PS not tanking Golden Wheel, just wow. Kakashi shits on Toneri.

Bring arguments or don't post at all.

I'm not about to type why I disagree in this thread, if you want to debate make another thread. With that being said Kakashi loses, his susanoo is not tanking golden wheel reincarnation. You seem like a Madara wanker anyways when you said EMS Nadara can win but 8-Gate guy can't. Just lol @ that.

 

[Ambivalence]

"His Susano'o is not tanking Golden Wheel"... and it just ends. :lol Yeah, I'm just supposed to take your word for it, I guess?

Go ahead and tell me how EMS Madara's, let alone Rikudou Kakashi's PS has lower durability than KCSM Naruto's fist, because it split the beam and Naruto was completely unharmed. Go ahead and tell me how cutting large amounts of rubble equates to cutting PS. You probably just look at its size and pee your pants. Guess what, I can't cut a small piece of metal with a giant machete no matter how much I try, so...

 

[Simbv]

"His Susano'o is not tanking Golden Wheel"... and it just ends. :lol Yeah, I'm just supposed to take your word for it, I guess?

Go ahead and tell me how EMS Madara's, let alone Rikudou Kakashi's PS has lower durability than KCSM Naruto's fist, because it split the beam and Naruto was completely unharmed. Go ahead and tell me how cutting large amounts of rubble equates to cutting PS. You probably just look at its size and pee your pants. Guess what, I can't cut a small piece of metal with a giant machete no matter how much I try, so...

Once again your wank fest continues. Kakashi's Susanoo doesn't last forever. Like I said before, you lost all credibility when you stated EMS Madara can win against Toneri but 8-Gates guy cannot. You're digging the bigger hole for yourself.

 

[Vanto]

Man, talking about SM Kabuto reminded me of how far the god/high top tier is from the rest.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

Prime Hiruzen

 

[Reboryushon]

Don't feed trolls. Toneri is very powerful and very capable, he was just matched against Rikudou's yang half and was wrecked. Naruto at 19 was very powerful and possessed full Kurama. Toneri solo's everyone bar the people you listed due to sheer power/abilities of the tenseigan, gudodama wrecks non rikudou ninja, added with all his other abilities toneri is pretty haxxed.

Love defeated Toneri.

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Moral of the story:

Never ever fall in love.

 

[Ambivalence]

Once again your wank fest continues. Kakashi's Susanoo doesn't last forever. Like I said before, you lost all credibility when you stated EMS Madara can win against Toneri but 8-Gates guy cannot. You're digging the bigger hole for yourself.

So no explanation, no arguments, no nothing, just you being upset and unable to prove jack?

Right, gotcha.

 

[Dantee]

Everyone on that list shits on Toneri.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

This means BM Minato also wins the same way, plus it'd be easier with a bit of clever use of Hiraishin. He doesn't have Senjutsu, but Toneri's Gudoudama were never stated or shown to have Onmoyoton, so unless you can prove they do, it isn't needed.

Fourth Databook - Techniques Section, Page 249

Spoiler

Truthseeker Orbs

Listed as just a Ninjutsu (not Kekkei Mōra), used by Madara, Obito, and Naruto. It says that when an individual manifests (literally "blossoms" 開花) Six Paths Senjutsu, black orbs comprising the power of all five elements and yin-yang appear, forming a circle that floats behind them. They can manipulate each orb independently. Each orb is about the size of a fist and hides within enough power to completely obliterate a forest. With the power of Creation of All Things, put simply, the shape of the black orbs can be freely altered, and the many natures comprising them can be combined to manifest a variety of effects. It is a power that easily exceeds both Kekkei Genkai and Kekkei Tōta.

 

[Ambivalence]

Fourth Databook - Techniques Section, Page 249

Spoiler

Truthseeker Orbs

Listed as just a Ninjutsu (not Kekkei Mōra), used by Madara, Obito, and Naruto. It says that when an individual manifests (literally "blossoms" 開花) Six Paths Senjutsu, black orbs comprising the power of all five elements and yin-yang appear, forming a circle that floats behind them. They can manipulate each orb independently. Each orb is about the size of a fist and hides within enough power to completely obliterate a forest. With the power of Creation of All Things, put simply, the shape of the black orbs can be freely altered, and the many natures comprising them can be combined to manifest a variety of effects. It is a power that easily exceeds both Kekkei Genkai and Kekkei Tōta.

What exactly do you think giving me a page of the Fourth Databook changes? Not only was it written before The Last was even out, it was also concerning only the Gudoudama received from a form of Rikudou Senjutsu in that page. You can't prove Toneri's TSB are the same, which they most likely aren't, seeing as:

1. Nobody else has used them as a beam of energy.
2. His TSB were received thanks to the Tenseigan.
3. His TSB seem to be weaker than Obito and Madara's as they were shattered by a few standard Rasengans, while it took a Senjutsu BD and a V3 Arrow to crack Obito's.

 

[Simbv]

What exactly do you think giving me a page of the Fourth Databook changes? Not only was it written before The Last was even out, it was also concerning only the Gudoudama received from a form of Rikudou Senjutsu in that page. You can't prove Toneri's TSB are the same, which they most likely aren't, seeing as:

1. Nobody else has used them as a beam of energy.
2. His TSB were received thanks to the Tenseigan.
3. His TSB seem to be weaker than Obito and Madara's as they were shattered by a few standard Rasengans, while it took a Senjutsu BD and a V3 Arrow to crack Obito's.

Those are Juubi Jin's, they literally have the power of the SO6P. That doesn't mean they aren't the same thing. Furthermore, They werent "Regular Rasengans", Naruto was in BSM. I was wondering why you kept saying that crap,Naruto was obviously using in BSM.



EDIT: He also tanked a Rasen-Shuriken with his TSB.

 

[Loki d]

Just Lol at that^

You do realize Kakashi has Kamui therefore he doesn't need to tank anything

 

[Simbv]

You do realize Kakashi has Kamui therefore he doesn't need to tank anything

You do realize that Toneri is as fast as Naruto in the Last? He may can keep up, but can his body react? Also, the powerup that kakashi has only lasts for a very short time. I'm not going to go along with fanfic characters such as, "Healthy Itachi" and "Permanent DSM Kakashi"