[Nagato's Rinnegan] Something I don't understand..

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Did he actually.. *awaken* this, or did Madara give it to him?!

If so, how the hell did Madara give him the Rinnegan without him knowing?

He said he awakened it when his parents died?

Do Uzumaki's even have Rinnegan or no?

Was Madara / Tobi lying about giving him the Rinnegan possibly even if he said it?!

Thank you for any responses in advance. Sorry if this is a stupid thread I just haven't really got that yet.
 
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I think he did awaken it when his parents died, yes.
 

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It was Madara's Rinnegan that was transplanted into him
 

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No, Madara did give it to him, whether he fully awakened its' powers or not is a moot point, it is strange however that it took Akatsuki more than 15+ years before commencing the Eye of the Moon Plan, my suspicion is the Gedo Mazou and the 9 phantom dragons needed for Bijuu extraction was not ready yet until Shippuden's timeline.
 

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It was Madara's Rinnegan that was transplanted into him

But how on earth did Madara transplant the eyes into him without him knowing? I think you'd tell your eyes getting ripped out and replaced.
 

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But how on earth did Madara transplant the eyes into him without him knowing? I think you'd tell your eyes getting ripped out and replaced.

Now that is a mystery ;) medical ninjutsu maybe? :p

Considering Madara was stuck in his cave all that time. Maybe he had his errand boy Zetsu do the transplanting :p
 

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Now that is a mystery ;) medical ninjutsu maybe? :p

Considering Madara was stuck in his cave all that time. Maybe he had his errand boy Zetsu do the transplanting :p

So, it's not a Uzumaki thing then?
Can we be 100% sure that Madara did that? I mean HOW ON EARTH. XD
 

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As far as the theory of Darwin is irrelevant, Madara might put little boy Nagato into some powerful Genjutsu and having White Zetsu as its anaesthetist.
 

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As far as the theory of Darwin is irrelevant, Madara might put little boy Nagato into some powerful Genjutsu and having White Zetsu as its anaesthetist.

Madara hasn't been shown to have Genjutsu though?
It's possible that Nagato just awakened the Rinnegan though, right? Without any implantation?
That Madara / Tobi are lying?
 

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So, it's not a Uzumaki thing then?
Can we be 100% sure that Madara did that? I mean HOW ON EARTH. XD

The Rinnegan is awakened with Senju+Uchiha DNA because the Rinnegan most likely came from the Juubi being sealed inside Rikudou, and since Rikudou's yin and yang were evenly split into his two sons, then it only logically follows that by combining them in one body the Rinnegan could be awakened, even if we assume Rikudou was an Uzumaki, his extended relatives couldn't awaken the Rinnegan because they never had the Juubi sealed inside them nor their ancestors.
 

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obito transplanted it to nagato's eyes. but it's actualiys madara's eyes.
 

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The Rinnegan is awakened with Senju+Uchiha DNA because the Rinnegan most likely came from the Juubi being sealed inside Rikudou, and since Rikudou's yin and yang were evenly split into his two sons, then it only logically follows that by combining them in one body the Rinnegan could be awakened, even if we assume Rikudou was an Uzumaki, his extended relatives couldn't awaken the Rinnegan because they never had the Juubi sealed inside them or their ancestors

Ah, okay. Thanks for that. :D
 

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Madara hasn't been shown to have Genjutsu though?
It's possible that Nagato just awakened the Rinnegan though, right? Without any implantation?
That Madara / Tobi are lying?

Actually i was meant to say KA but if Madara and/or Tobi was lying, then it was a beautiful lie however Nagato still got its rinnegan. Bear in mind, rinnegan is an evolution from sharingan eyes thus what nagato gained was actually a finished product.
 

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obito transplanted it to nagato's eyes. but it's actualiys madara's eyes.

I think Madara had it transplanted into Nagato even before he met Obito since Madara was shown missing an eye at that time he rescued Obito
 
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Madara hasn't been shown to have Genjutsu though?
It's possible that Nagato just awakened the Rinnegan though, right? Without any implantation?
That Madara / Tobi are lying?
He's part of a clan based on genjutsu, and second they wouldn't know who to recruit if they had not implanted the eye...
Anyhow they admitted that nagato was like their tool..
 

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The Rinnegan is awakened with Senju+Uchiha DNA because the Rinnegan most likely came from the Juubi being sealed inside Rikudou, and since Rikudou's yin and yang were evenly split into his two sons, then it only logically follows that by combining them in one body the Rinnegan could be awakened, even if we assume Rikudou was an Uzumaki, his extended relatives couldn't awaken the Rinnegan because they never had the Juubi sealed inside them nor their ancestors.
Retard alert he actually got the rinnegon before he sealed it and made it split inti the tailed beasts
 

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Ok. So why did Nagato nearly starve? Wouldn't Madara make sure he would survive if it was all this long plan to revive Madara?

He nearly starved when he had his dog. And he nearly died with Hanzo. Tobi / Madara did nothing to help him.
 
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