Nagato's level of intelligence

AllHailKurama

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Ok so there seems to be a general consensus her on the base that Minato, Tobirama, Kakashi, Shikaku, Shikamaru, Orochimaru, Itachi and Madara are all among the elite when it comes to intelligence. That's not in any particular order, by the way.

My question is this: Shouldn't Nagato be considered up there with these guys?

Consider this:

Using just one of his paths, he interprets information from one source (one viewpoint) in one situation (just like a normal person). For instance, a normal one on one fight.

Now if we examine his fight against Jiraiya he used three paths most of the time (the other three came in at the end of the fight). This means he was interpreting information from three DIFFERENT sources (viewpoints) in one situation (he was only fighting Jiraiya). He was able to effectively coordinate his attacks while using information gathered from multiple persons (such as being able to use a viewpoint from on path to dodge an attack aimed at another path) and subdued Jiraiya by doing so.

The same thing applies to the fight with Naruto, the only difference being that instead of interpreting information from 3 different sources (viewpoints), he did so from 6 different sources (viewpoints) in one situation. Even more impressive, although he did end up losing lol

With all that said, I think that the true testament to his intelligence is not those scenario's, rather the true testament to his intelligence is his assault on the Leaf itself. During the assault on the Leaf, he used all six paths. So, once again, he was taking in and interpreting information from 6 different sources (viewpoints). However, the paths did not stick together like they did during the fights against Jiraiya (prior) nor Naruto (later). Instead, they split up. During this time, Nagato was interpreting information from 6 different sources (viewpoints) from 6 ENTIRELY DIFFERENT situations (as opposed to the fights, where all six path were focused on one target and one target alone). That feat alone is enough to put him up there in terms of intelligence to me

Side note: Some people might say that this also qualifies Obito for this realm of intelligence as well because of the fight when he was using the other reanimated jinchuriki, and while I'm not denying that Obito is indeed smart, I would like to point out that Reanimations think and perform (in this case, they didn't think on their own, the basically just moved) on their own, Obito wasn't controlling him like Nagato was controlling the paths. In essence Nagato WAS the paths.

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I agree, for the most part. I don't really feel that he's on the same level as Shikamaru and Itachi, but controlling all six realms at once is without a doubt a great feat.
 

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I dont think Nagato is all that smart. Sure he is good in combat.

His only intelligence lies with pain, jutsus, and battle
 

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Not in the same tier as Minato, Kakashi, Shukaku and Itachi. He got fooled by Naruto.
 

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he is battlesmart,but in general slightly retarded considering he was manipulated so much,that at one point he killed jiraiya his sensei
 

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Not in the same tier as Minato, Kakashi, Shukaku and Itachi. He got fooled by Naruto.

Lol true, but at the same time Naruto's level of intelligence in battle is underestimated due to his idiocy outside of the fight (in this case, he's much like Luffy and Goku)
 

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Yes nagato & obito are both among the best when it comes to intelligence.
 

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I dont think Nagato is all that smart. Sure he is good in combat.

His only intelligence lies with pain, jutsus, and battle

I think is information processing capabilities are up there, as demonstrated...
 

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Not in the same tier as Minato, Kakashi, Shukaku and Itachi. He got fooled by Naruto.

So?

Kakuzu has a 4.5 in intelligence & got fooled by naruto who has a 3.

If plot needs naruto to outsmart his enemy he will.
 

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his level of intelligence next to obito's may have been highest in the akatski, especially combat wise,to control six with a different task all at the same time say's not only is nagato intelligent but he has a very diverse way of thinking out his strategies, kinda like his plan to slow down team kakashi and team gai long enough while they extracted the shakaku from gaara,and his strategy against jiriaya to keep 3 of his bodies concealed in case the event came that 3 were killed, his intelligence is of incredibly high level(plus his intelligent feats are higher than anyone in the akatski accept obito's) its just underrated by this base, he could be considered a genius to be honest.
 
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Not up there with the likes of Orochimaru, Itachi, Sasuke, Kabuto, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Tobirama, and Shikaku. He should be at Minato and Sakura's level.
 

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Not up there with the likes of Orochimaru, Itachi, Sasuke, Kabuto, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Tobirama, and Shikaku. He should be at Minato and Sakura's level.
lol I don't think you give Minato enough credit, he is definitely smarter than Kakashi and Sasuke. Jiraiya called him a "once in a generation" genius. He figured out Obito's Kamui after seeing it once, and it only took him like 5 secs to do so. It took Kakashi considerably longer to figure it out, and Kakshi is smarter than Sasuke. Minato is definitely in the top tier when it comes to intelligence.
 

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Nagato easily has a 5/5 in intelligence, but you're trying to compare Nagato to Orochimaru (who pretty much knows everything), Itachi (who is as smart as Kakashi who is as smart as nara clan member), and Shikaku/Shikamaru, the smartest nara's. Be real.
 

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lol I don't think you give Minato enough credit, he is definitely smarter than Kakashi and Sasuke. Jiraiya called him a "once in a generation" genius. He figured out Obito's Kamui after seeing it once, and it only took him like 5 secs to do so. It took Kakashi considerably longer to figure it out, and Kakshi is smarter than Sasuke. Minato is definitely in the top tier when it comes to intelligence.

Obito's kamui was figured out the quickest by Sakura - she worked out the duel perspective within seconds. This is something Minato never did. In fact, it took Kakashi 200 Chapters to reach the full conclusion. Danzo's guards figured out his ability just as easily. Sasuke, who never fought him and simply ran through, figured out that he had phased through and that he wasn't exactly transparent.

My point being, it's all about feats and Minato has too few of them. But I am still being generous here. kakashi is not smarter than Sasuke. I have no idea on what basis people even make this claim, given Orochimaru's admiration of the young Genius, when he was only 16.
 

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His intelligence seems higher because he was the only one who had access to those rikudou eyes, so he had knowledge of highest techs that no one know. Basically he overpowered those fodders, not much intelligence needed. And his intelligence is low/normal
 

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Not up there with the likes of Orochimaru, Itachi, Sasuke, Kabuto, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Tobirama, and Shikaku. He should be at Minato and Sakura's level.

Typical comment from this guy .
 
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