Nagato was meant to be more haxxed than Hashi and Madara.

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Nagato was just an insecure kid who had the most craved ability in the world but didn't know how to use it wisely. If he did he wouldn't have taken orders from tobi and he couldve become the most powerful but the fact is nagato was just a fodder, a tool used by tobi, just a stepping stone for others(like tobi) to gain op abilities. He was never meant or designed to be anything of hashi or madara's character. The guy doesn't even qualify to be a major villain. His screentime lasted only 44 episodes and i see nagato>edo/ems madara but look at how easily he lost the battle with itachi/naruto/bee. He didnt even last 15mins in that battle whilst madara is there OWNING THE FIVE KAGE. Nagato is a failure of an experiment. He had the most powerful doujutsu and mastered all 5 elements but look at what guys like hashi, onoki, madara, tobi,naruto,raikage, itachi,tobirama, minato, hiruzen,oro, etc. have been able to achieve with not more than 2 or 3 elements and lesser or no doujutsu. He is a FAILURE!!. Power with no brains= waste tool.Even ramen guy would have done better with the rinnegan than nagato.
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Well pain was stronger then him so it doesnt really matter to me that much.He was manipulating him for his own purpose if Pain was truly under the orders of Tobi he would of been collecting the Bjuu for Tobi when in fact he was doing for himself

Nagato formed a plan to destroy Konoha and seemed to have good knowledge of how things work in the world.He clearly showed he was a strategist personally combat intelligence wise hes quite adept

Its your opinion though its just everything Madara and Hashirama has can e absorbed by preta and getting close to Nagato would basically be impossible with Shinra Tensei not to mention Asura path armour



I can agree with this
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He still cannot defeat them though. We're talking about the two strongest shinobi's of an era and a man with similar accolades as countless other shinobi.

Also, he didn't lead Akatsuki, Tobi did. He mastered 5 elements due to the Rinnegan, otherwise that would be nearly impossible. Yahiko would've been the one to take over the Rain had he not died, Hanzo was clearly losing his touch.
He mastered them due to the Rinnegan, well Madara was only a badass due to the EMS.. Hashi was only a badass due to his wood style. Nagato would have a good chance to defeat Hashi (given Hashi didnt learn his secret) and Madara psssh most of his moves are ninjutsu... Nagato has a wonderful counter to that. Dont just write him off yet. Remember, his battle with Naruto was to keep him alive...not straight kill Naruto.
 

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Lol....if you're talking about healthy, prime Nagato, then no.

Edo Madara >> Nagato.
EMS Madara << Nagato.
Rinnegan Tobi > Nagato.
BM Naruto < Nagato.
Edo--Maybe (he IS having some trouble with the 5 kage)
EMS Madara << Nagato
Rinnegan Tobi?? What proof do you have of his efficiency wielding the Rinn against Nagato? Nagato has 30 years of practice compared to Tobi's..few months?
BM Naruto >> Nagato. Nagato had trouble with 1 undeveloped tailed beast form Naruto... Naruto fought 7 tailed beasts.
 

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He mastered them due to the Rinnegan, well Madara was only a badass due to the EMS.. Hashi was only a badass due to his wood style. Nagato would have a good chance to defeat Hashi (given Hashi didnt learn his secret) and Madara psssh most of his moves are ninjutsu... Nagato has a wonderful counter to that. Dont just write him off yet. Remember, his battle with Naruto was to keep him alive...not straight kill Naruto.
Well Hashi is only badass due to plot and I really don't see Senjuu as rival of Uchiha.
Wood Style is not Senjuu's trademark jutsu it's only Hashirama's.
In what way is Senjuu special? to even rival that Uchiha?
"powerful bodies" lol I see.
 
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@Son of odin(#2 on my stupid idiot list) and @rul(the embodiment of stupidity itself)- it seems common sense is not common to you guys. U should go back to creche. Nagato was only a fodder part of a plot-no-jutsu to get jman out and to help tobi get rinnegan. As Simple as abc but some primitive individuals whose minds are not deeper than apes dont have the iq levels to understand the plot of the manga. Sorry if it seems im hating or trolling but dont be angry with yourselves cos it's not a sin if you guys were just born stupid. I mean, you guys are at least smarter than pigs right?? Cos even pigs know that guys like shishui,nagato,tobirama,etc werent designed to perfect their jutsus and be op shinobi but fodder stepping stones for wiser individuals(like danzo,tobi,kabuchimaru) to gain extra power. Im not denying pains power but the guy just wasnt meant to be up there with madara and hashi.its called fate,nagato fanboys. ACCEPT IT!!!!
 

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Well Hashi is only badass due to plot and I really don't see Senjuu as rival of Uchiha.
Wood Style is not Senjuu's trademark jutsu it's only Hashirama's.
In what way is Senjuu special? to even rival that Uchiha?
"powerful bodies" lol I see.
Senju are a counter for the uchiha...in the manga said when people hired uchiha for war other side would hire senju or the other way round till they signed a peace treaty.. Senju are highly skilled in all Ninjutsu,Taijutsu,GENjutsu...they were known as the clan of a thousand skills for a reason...frankly i understand you saying hashi sucks ect ...but dont make out senju to be weak just cause the uchiha can unlock ms,ems ..rinnegan..and yes they have alot of life force and strong bodies...meaning they are suitable for being jinchuurikis...

(senju we havent even heard alot about them...we hear alot about uchihas because hashi is a big fan of them)
 

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For those who are saying nagato can't KILL naruto are wrong, he's mission was to capture him alive, which is much harder than killing, he had like 10 chances to kill naruto even due he was in bad shape, nagato would kick ems madaras ass, i wouldnt say 'edo'madara is so badass with hashiramas powers xd it only proves he does not have any real power himself + he's being updated by kabuto soo much it's even not funny, and hashi i think nagato can absorb he's forest and kick tarzan out from the jungle.. NUFF SAID ululululu.:mugi:
 

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For those who are saying nagato can't KILL naruto are wrong, he's mission was to capture him alive, which is much harder than killing, he had like 10 chances to kill naruto even due he was in bad shape, nagato would kick ems madaras ass, i wouldnt say 'edo'madara is so badass with hashiramas powers xd it only proves he does not have any real power himself + he's being updated by kabuto soo much it's even not funny, and hashi i think nagato can absorb he's forest and kick tarzan out from the jungle.. NUFF SAID ululululu.:mugi:
if nagato is as haxxed as people say then he is > everyone in narutoverse and is on par with so6p

ofcourse i am a hashi fan but i wont say anything about hashirama > nagato cuz i dont know but its stupid to say that nagato cant be touched...+ i dont believe that hashirama>edo madara

unless hopefully he gets sagemode + they show his arsenal (if it involved seals and crap)
 

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Nagato was being used like everyone else Tobi used. He was a tool for a greater plan. Naruto beat him with those words because he made him see that his ways although trying to get peace were the wrong way of going about it.
 

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Lol....if you're talking about healthy, prime Nagato, then no.

Edo Madara >> Nagato.
EMS Madara << Nagato.
Rinnegan Tobi > Nagato.
BM Naruto < Nagato.
...someone with sense? :ice:

Nagato > Hashirama > EMS Madara (And yes, A>B>C works here)
Nagato > Naruto

Tobi > Nagato though. Nagato might be better with the Rinnegan, but Tobi's S/T techs and his paths are too much.
 
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