Nagato vs Madara

Nagato(Full health, legs work) Vs Madara (EMS,no rinnegan)


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Let's say Nagato. Shinra tensei can repel amaterasu. I'm not sure about tsukuyomi, but we're talking about rinnegan wielder here, he could probably somehow counter it. Susanoo, well I think chibaku tensei or large scale shinra tensei could do quite good against it. There is also fourth dojutsu that comes with EMS which is still uknown, but for now, I'll go with Nagato.
Where in Naruto did it say Madara had Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi? Nagato can repel Amaterasu but does Madara have Amaterasu? Not all Mangekyou Sharingans have that technique
 

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Im going with Nagato, even if Madara could become intangible for a bit Konan exposed the fact that he cant stay that way for long. I think 5 seconds is enough time to abuse shinra tensei lmao

Not only that but Nagato could remove his soul using one of the paths power regardless if he was intangible or not. So Nagato ftw
 

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Im going with Nagato, even if Madara could become intangible for a bit Konan exposed the fact that he cant stay that way for long. I think 5 seconds is enough time to abuse shinra tensei lmao

Not only that but Nagato could remove his soul using one of the paths power regardless if he was intangible or not. So Nagato ftw
one konan said that he has a time limit for everytime that he becomes intangible he has 5 minutes for each time, but can use it as many times as he wants. here is proof
the human path that removes souls has to be touching madara and has to be close in order to get out the soul where as madara can absorb him from a decent distance like how kakashi did to deidara but its just that madara has no side effects like getting tired and is much better than kakashi at the tech.
 

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Alright let me explain something to u saying rinnegan is not better then sharigan its obviou it is why because you don't see a clan of rinnegan users like you did with the sharingan why bc the visual jutsu is so rare said once in a century while sharigan was common its not a instant win but it certainly has a clear advantage now try to disprove this logic I wanna see you try also a reason why pain would win is because madara is weak he can't go into a all out battle why bc he's still injured from his fight from fight with the first y u think he's gathering eyes bc he's weak trying to restore his strength so he needed the rinnegan why because its that damn good anyone who possess it has the ability to save the world or bring about the destruction as the great toad prophecy predicted facts baby facts also if u can produce a good counterargument you get a chicken dinner xd
 
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Alright let me explain something to u saying rinnegan is not better then sharigan its obviou it is why because you don't see a clan of rinnegan users like you did with the sharingan why bc the visual jutsu is so rare said once in a century while sharigan was common its not a instant win but it certainly has a clear advantage now try to disprove this logic I wanna see you try also a reason why pain would win is because madara is weak he can't go into a all out battle why bc he's still injured from his fight from fight with the first y u think he's gathering eyes bc he's weak trying to restore his strength so he needed the rinnegan why because its that damn good anyone who possess it has the ability to save the world or bring about the destruction as the great toad prophecy predicted facts baby facts also if u can produce a good counterargument you get a chicken dinner xd
i never said sharingan is better read my posts i said rinnegan is the best dojutsu. It gives nagato mad good abilities like he had shown against naruto in the past. I kno its rare and it has good powers he can beat almost everyone in the naruto series becos of that power, however he does not have the speed to counter madara's s/t jutsu and can be absorbed. Andd the reason why madara said he is weak is because he is, he has no real firepower like he used to that is why he said he is a shell of his former self and thats why he wants more powers like the rinnegan added to his sharingan, however i am not arguing like he is the strongest as in he has abilities like susano and chibaku tensei with great powers however he does have his kamui which would just allow him to win a battle but not necessarily be stronger than pain in terms of raw techs. ppl here still cannot provide a good counter argument to why madara would lose to nagato by actually talking about nagato's abilities instead they just say sharingan<rinnegan and that is their argument. we hav seen nagato's powers(which is rinnegan's power) it is really amazing but he can't do anything about his s/t(which is better than minato's and 2nd hokage's). only ppl who are fast and smart like minato can actually beat him.
 

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im just a little undecided, we havent really seen the extent of Madars powers other than him teleporting from one place to another. ill wait to see what hes really capable of doing first.
 

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i never said sharingan is better read my posts i said rinnegan is the best dojutsu. It gives nagato mad good abilities like he had shown against naruto in the past. I kno its rare and it has good powers he can beat almost everyone in the naruto series becos of that power, however he does not have the speed to counter madara's s/t jutsu and can be absorbed. Andd the reason why madara said he is weak is because he is, he has no real firepower like he used to that is why he said he is a shell of his former self and thats why he wants more powers like the rinnegan added to his sharingan, however i am not arguing like he is the strongest as in he has abilities like susano and chibaku tensei with great powers however he does have his kamui which would just allow him to win a battle but not necessarily be stronger than pain in terms of raw techs. ppl here still cannot provide a good counter argument to why madara would lose to nagato by actually talking about nagato's abilities instead they just say sharingan<rinnegan and that is their argument. we hav seen nagato's powers(which is rinnegan's power) it is really amazing but he can't do anything about his s/t(which is better than minato's and 2nd hokage's). only ppl who are fast and smart like minato can actually beat him.
Wasn't you I was pisting about but r ieason why nagato would win one madara like I said is weake n u just agreed with me on that reason y lets look at this yes madara has that s/t and inazangi or whatever n it will come down to that which after he uses that he loses his sharigan he used right ok lets then say he did harm to nagato what I'm saying is nagato including himself is 7 pains n in this case hell be back somewhere bc he's controlling the pains n as far as I know madara knows about this so incase he will be trying to find him on top off fighting off the other pains which one of them would repair the one that madara destroyed in which case if was the one who could repair the others then u still got the guy who summons n the other who obsorbs ninjutsu which I mean since madara has sharigan he should be incredible at genjutsu which is fine he uses that or whatever but lets see if ge does he only has one eye left and inzagani or whatever is a major chakra use which in that case all the real pain nagato has to do is outlast him n lets be honest madara wouldn't use the izagani again bc he couldn't see so then it comes to jutsu which pain from what we've seen thus far in the manga has more powerful jutsu then madara so if it came down to a chakra thing pain would win
 

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Nagatu will win since he mastered the 6 paths perfectly and he is the 7th path himself also he can drain chakra whenever he want which Nagatu is has infinity chakra, furthermore Nagatu know how to deal with strong opponent since he capture several tail beasts and defeated Jirraiya easily.
 

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Wasn't you I was pisting about but r ieason why nagato would win one madara like I said is weake n u just agreed with me on that reason y lets look at this yes madara has that s/t and inazangi or whatever n it will come down to that which after he uses that he loses his sharigan he used right ok lets then say he did harm to nagato what I'm saying is nagato including himself is 7 pains n in this case hell be back somewhere bc he's controlling the pains n as far as I know madara knows about this so incase he will be trying to find him on top off fighting off the other pains which one of them would repair the one that madara destroyed in which case if was the one who could repair the others then u still got the guy who summons n the other who obsorbs ninjutsu which I mean since madara has sharigan he should be incredible at genjutsu which is fine he uses that or whatever but lets see if ge does he only has one eye left and inzagani or whatever is a major chakra use which in that case all the real pain nagato has to do is outlast him n lets be honest madara wouldn't use the izagani again bc he couldn't see so then it comes to jutsu which pain from what we've seen thus far in the manga has more powerful jutsu then madara so if it came down to a chakra thing pain would win
sorry i didn't fully get what you were saying but i said madara is weak in terms of not having firepower but he could win with s/t. madara knos about nagato and his techs he really does not have to bother fighting the paths and can go to the top or highest place and just go there and absorb him. he can just teleport there in 2 seconds the paths can do anything. He doesn't need izangi or anything he can just teleport to where nagato is. And you kno that this is nagato vs madara not pain vs madara it is actually easier for madara to win against pain cos he knos to look for the tallest place so he could find nagato.
 
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Yo I wasn't sure as u know nagato is pain so I covered every angle I could as I'm doing this discussion in my computer class as the professor is just talking away anyway just cause madara can teleport to nagato I'm 120 percent the fight would make madara use izagani which then a battle of the eyes you know what I wanna see this fight now lol. Write to manga directors nagato vs madara
 

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Yo I wasn't sure as u know nagato is pain so I covered every angle I could as I'm doing this discussion in my computer class as the professor is just talking away anyway just cause madara can teleport to nagato I'm 120 percent the fight would make madara use izagani which then a battle of the eyes you know what I wanna see this fight now lol. Write to manga directors nagato vs madara
wish there was a fight too between them but doubt it nagato is only an edo now and we won't get to see him fight madara the only person who is gonna actually fight him is naruto and maybe sasuke and kabuto9if they betray him). Yea its ok to look at every angle but what can nagato do if madara teleports there he is in a chair with rods stuck to his back, he can't move that much and is an easy target for madara.
 

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Before the war, Nagato was the most powerful ninja alive. Madara very well knew it too so the only thing he could do was try and Manipulate Nagato from the shadows. Nagato wins
 
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